Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 unveiled: faster, more efficient, with ray tracing and Wi-Fi 7
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- 07 Jan 2023
Anonymous, 23 Nov 2022Nothing can compete with Qualcomm in the mobile chipset mar... moreNope, the 9200 dimensity is bad and reverse what qualcomm is offer it try to push power and temp limit to catch the adreno 740 gpu which in case will have hot temp and high consumption limit based on geekerwan video it reaches 14w opposed to 8 gen 1 which max at 12 and 888 at 11w which is disastrous, the 8 gen 2 only does 6-8w which is awesome
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- 26 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 25 Nov 2022He did test Cortex A715 and A710 unless you didnt watch the... morethat's my point. that's hundreds of millions too many that should've move on and just use old phone to use legacy 32-bit apps.
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- 25 Nov 2022
Fulljack, 25 Nov 2022Geekerwan video only tests X3 cores, not the relation betwe... moreHe did test Cortex A715 and A710 unless you didnt watch the video.
Its not me who decide to keep 32bit its Qualcomm, if hundreds of million people still use 32bit Qualcomm would still support it.
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- 25 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 23 Nov 2022I saw it from Geekerwan which he got Engineering device in ... moreGeekerwan video only tests X3 cores, not the relation between A715 and A710 and how efficient it is regarding the power consumption.
if you want to keep using legacy 32-vit apps, either asks developer to port it to 64-bit or keep your older phone that has the capabilities to run 32-bit app. it doesn't take much to have two phones at home. simple is.
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- 23 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 23 Nov 2022How much power a cpu uses can easily be controlled with sof... moreTo win benchmarks yes they use high frequency, most cpu you can get 80% of perfomance by using half power.
Around 2.4 to 2.6ghz phone can sustain those clock.
Sweet spot for a phone is 4 to 6W, 13 pro max sustained around 4W while 14 series goes between 5 and 6W.
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- 23 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 22 Nov 2022I saw benchmarks already nothing impressive, cpu use as man... moreHow much power a cpu uses can easily be controlled with software.
Apple does the same with their A series chips.
All that benchmark single core and multi core power is never put to use in real world.
Downclocking their chips is the secret to the good battery life on iPhones since last year
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- 23 Nov 2022
Nothing can compete with Qualcomm in the mobile chipset market.
Mediatek is catching up as well
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- 23 Nov 2022
Fulljack, 23 Nov 2022but you said you haven't seen reliable benchmark? by y... moreI saw it from Geekerwan which he got Engineering device in Qualcomm event so its more reliable than random leaks.
There are plenty of old Games and apps which still use 32bit code, unless Google create some software emulation to run 32bit apps hardware will be needed, and Cortex A510 isnt fast enough to run games.
One of my favourite Android game Might and Magic clash of heroes is 32bit only if am not mistaken, in Amazon even 64bit devices run 32bit os so you will be suprised how many apps are still 32bit we are talking about potential hundreds of thousands apps.
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- 23 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 22 Nov 2022I saw benchmarks already nothing impressive, cpu use as man... morebut you said you haven't seen reliable benchmark? by your account what you saw aren't exactly reliable, then. why are hellbent on supporting 32-bit, though? this isn't Windows or Linux where you need to cater the absolute legacy codes from three decades ago. supporting legacy codes means more security works, it also means more vulnerability.
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- 22 Nov 2022
Fulljack, 22 Nov 2022yeah because no smartphone has used Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or D... moreI saw benchmarks already nothing impressive, cpu use as many as 12W, A715 is little bit efficient but not by much compare to A710, nothing worth to sacrifice 32bit support, so Qualcomm is right here.
Gpu though is so impressive, same perfomance as Immortalis inside 9200 but use around 8W only while D9200 one use 12W even sustainable perfomance is much better. Sd 8 gen 2 gpu is also way better than A16.
So in Sd 8 gen 2 you have Mediocre cpu and excellent gpu.
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- 22 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 21 Nov 2022I mean Cortex A715 over A710 i havent see realiable review yet. yeah because no smartphone has used Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or Dimensity 9200 just yet. but their slides are pretty straightforward if you already know their track records. Anandtech did a lot of yearly Arm architectural deep dives and so far they did make good on their marketing slides.
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- 22 Nov 2022
SD8G2 will be a little more powerful than D9200 multicore, GPU will be as powerful as D9200 (stronger than A16) while being as efficient at same performance level. They are finally back on track!
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- 21 Nov 2022
Fulljack, 21 Nov 2022Arm official slides and Google's 64-bit only built of ... moreI mean Cortex A715 over A710 i havent see realiable review yet.
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- 21 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 20 Nov 2022how did you know that they improve perfomance? Arm official slides and Google's 64-bit only built of Android 🤦♂️
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- 21 Nov 2022
raytracing on phone? yeah not gonna happen, high chance it just marketing misleading word, or just 'bootleg' version of real raytracing
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- 20 Nov 2022
Fulljack, 20 Nov 2022except Snapdragon deliberately uses A710 instead of A715 ju... morehow did you know that they improve perfomance?
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- 20 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 20 Nov 2022Market is everywhere there are reason why both Sd 8 gen 2 a... moreexcept Snapdragon deliberately uses A710 instead of A715 just for that 32-bit app support despite performance improvement by using fully A715. Mediatek aren't any better but at least the 32-bit app support are reneged to A510R1 cores.
the market has been moving to 64-bit. Apple has drop 32-bit app support completely years ago and Google has enforcing 64-bit app to Play Store since years. supporting 32-bit by using older cores are not progressive nor it is are innovative when the only market with more than 1% of 32-bit app are China. it sounds like legacy support are preferred rather moving on.
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- 20 Nov 2022
8K resolutions are upon us and yet 720p at 960fps is mentioned like some sort of an ultra pro feature when 720p is over 10 years old... By now I would have expected to see 1080p at 960fps.
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- 20 Nov 2022
Fulljack, 20 Nov 2022the demands are only in China because Google doesn't o... moreMarket is everywhere there are reason why both Sd 8 gen 2 and D9200 has 32 bit support and most Midrange and lowend soc are reluctant to move to 64bit only.
While new apps are made to use 64bit there are so many 32bit apps which were abandoned and developers dont have plan to re write them.
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- 20 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 18 Nov 2022What market to be specific? The reason 32bit is still here ... morethe demands are only in China because Google doesn't operate there. rest of the world adhere to Google GMS requirements and that including support for 64-bit app to make sure transition like this run smooth.
the market are already here, it's been prepared by Google for years, as they're now in developing phase of 64-bit only Android, maybe as soon as Android 14.