Samsung introduces 200MP ISOCELL HP2 sensor for Galaxy S23 Ultra

17 January 2023
The sensor is 1/1.3” in size with 0.6 um pixels and is the company's most advanced sensor yet.

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Aierlan, 18 Jan 2023That's an older sensor you are referring to. They have... moreThanks for sharing this. The pixel size is indeed 1.2 , as you mentioned. I'll answer this at length.

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    • 18 Jan 2023

    So far so good only thing i am really worriyng is a fact most of the samsung words are just talk for advertising far from reality.

      Ivo., 17 Jan 2023Samsung is ages ahead of the evil companies, Canon, Sony, N... moreQuad Bayer binning on a large sensor isn't as useful as on a smaller sensor for mobile phones - Downsampling (note that I'm not talking about binning) an image to a quarter of its original resolution will hide a significant amount of noise already, so the benefit of pixel binning won't show up unless you shoot at extremely high ISO.

      To illustrate my point: Noise-performance-wise, A7SIII doesn't perform meaningfully better than A7RIV until both cameras go past ISO 25600.

      With advancements made in noise reduction algorithms on photo editing applications, there really isn't much point in using a Quad Bayer sensor on a dedicated camera, especially when considering the fact that they produce wormy artifacts that are very difficult to remove without precisely stacking frames (Which smartphone cameras do all the time, but dedicated cameras don't).

        TheLastOracle, 18 Jan 2023"SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Feb. 16, 2021 — OMNIVISION Tech... moreIpsDisplay is talking about OV50H, not OV50A. They are two different sensors.

          TheLastOracle, 18 Jan 2023"SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Feb. 16, 2021 — OMNIVISION Tech... moreThat's an older sensor you are referring to. They have announced two other sensors since then and the most recent OV50H one is the one being referred to by this commenter. These are the details from Omnivision's official website
          https://www.ovt.com/products/ov50h/
          There is an option to download the full product PDF guide at the bottom if you want to check the full sensor details

            IpsDisplay, 17 Jan 2023Meanwhile Omnivision OV50H.. 1.2 micron"SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Feb. 16, 2021 — OMNIVISION Technologies, Inc., a leading developer of advanced digital imaging solutions, today announced in advance of Mobile World Congress Shanghai the OV50A image sensor, combining 50MP resolution, 1.0 micron pixel size, selective conversion gain and a 1/1.5” optical format with quad phase detection (QPD) autofocus technology ..."

            Not sure where you got the 1.2 from.

              Ivo., 17 Jan 2023Samsung is ages ahead of the evil companies, Canon, Sony, N... moreCanon is the most evil of them all. Satisfied with their positions in the global market, they simply refuse to innovate, instead they are flooding the market with watered down apsc made from plastics. It took a few years to make the old coots in their HQ to panic, suddenly Sony has better eye tracking, and Nikon has better dynamic range, and eventually every other camera sensors in the market outperforms Canon's in terms of DR and ISO invariance.

              5Dmk2 user here.

                Anonymous, 17 Jan 2023You have added an extra zero. Correct is not enough for 20M... more"Dont not start again with the whole " plastic can be on pair with glass" to justify cheap plastic lenses used by samsung, apple, oppo and huawei"

                This is the nonsense that ***you*** brought up in the first place, not me. All I have been saying is small, well-engineered plastic lenses *can* resolve a very high amount of details, not that plastic is *just as good* as glass when it comes to the optical property all things considered.

                Smartphone lenses use a lot of aspherical elements to make sure they are very sharp across the frame and reduce chromatic aberration, but this will sacrifice the quality of the bokeh significantly (Which is why you see a ton of onion rings inside the bokeh balls on smartphone cameras). They are geared towards the resolution and that's why many of them can resolve details well despite the high MP count of the sensor, not to mention it's easier to design a sharp lens for a small sensor than for a larger one.

                While glass elements more transparent (which might improve the microcontrast slightly), they are also more expensive to manufacture especially at the small size of smartphone lenses, and using *a single* glass piece of glass as a front element will not dramatically affect the resulting image quality. I have a hard time descerning a difference between Find X3 Pro and Find X5 Pro main camera samples during the day - they almost identical detail wise.

                Finally, Samsung and Oppo both use a glass element for the cameras on their flagships.

                  A 9IN1 22MP mode could be better! 12MP is obsolete.

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                    Ivo., 17 Jan 2023Samsung is ages ahead of the evil companies, Canon, Sony, N... moreYou comparing tiny sensor on a smartphone to a huge sensor on the camera? Cameras will lose a lot of FPS going with that ridiculous amount of pixels, and cost of sensor will increase by multiple fold due to much larger rejection rate from combination of huge sensor and tiny pixels. And lastly, large part of the low light ability comes from AI processing rather than the sensor.

                      Aldwin123, 17 Jan 2023Read the article again. Better go to the main website of HP... moreYeah, I was talking about the "full resolution" in a way I usually talk about a 50MP sensor, my apologies for the confusion. The full resolution on this sensor is 200MP and 50MP is still a binned output.

                      After re-reading the product description, I also realised that "Dual Slope Gain" is their way to describe the dual conversion gain, and Smart ISO Pro is the method of HDR that uses DSG. That clarifies a lot.

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 17 Jan 2023

                        Awesome, Samsung is the best

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                          Samsung is ages ahead of the evil companies, Canon, Sony, Nikon, and Panasonic, which stubbornly don't want to use pixel binning for much better low light performance! Except, the Sony a7S, the only mirrorless camera with pixel binning 50MP to 12MP, but Sony lies that it doesn't do pixel binning!

                            McKinky, 17 Jan 2023How sharp you wonder. Your eyes will bleed just from looki... moreNot really, with lossy algorithm...

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                              potato4k, 17 Jan 2023I think that's more of Apple and some Chinese phone pr... moreThat's true, however I feel that the Samsung colors are still shifted to aqua/purple, you can tell easily in grass, sky and skin colors, at least when compared to a Canon or Sony DSLR as a reference. I'm using an S22 Ultra currently, and coming from S21U, S20U, S9+, S7.

                              Fortunately if you take pictures in Raw and develop them, you can get really accurate colors out of Samsung smartphones, but this process is too much sometimes for taking quick pictures.

                              I feel Apple has a very strong orange tint on skin, but good overall color interpretation and white balance. I wish Samsung would partner with a renown image brand that teaches them another color way.

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                                I do not care technology behind, final photo quality is important. We hear each time: new and best, new and best and at the end photo is worse than previous model offered. Apple did not improve anything but at least did not worse.

                                  IpsDisplay, 17 Jan 2023Meanwhile Omnivision OV50H.. 1.2 micronYeah, that new Omnivision sensor looks interesting. Similar to the imx707. Let's hope we see it in some phones later this year

                                    Anonymous, 17 Jan 2023i got an s22 ultra as well and didn't have any immense... moreThat is strange. Which version do you have? Exynos or Snapdragon? I was surprised as well. I got the newest software, and as I said, only ultrawide was on pair or better, the main was definitely the worst in Samsung. And as for JPGs the difference was smaller, in RAWs it was huge.

                                      1/1.3 so pathetic. While competition enjoying true 1 inch sensors, good luck buying Samsung crap 🤣

                                        notafanboy, 17 Jan 2023200MP is a worthless gimmickOne of the rare times I agree with you. As always the 200MP marketing tool is a great way to attract the average consumer

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