Samsung Galaxy A54 and A34 prices for Europe tipped
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- 11 Feb 2023
thedeev1, 11 Feb 2023LOL what an even bigger joke. Samsung's ego is really ... moreI've said it million times and I'll say it once again. Just specs on paper are NOT everything. And Chinese brands have demonstrated that numerous times. They are always hard hitting specs on paper and after you buy them based on that you're left with essentially zero technical support and with pathetic software support as well as slow and lacking long term support. If there are bugs you pretty much just have to hope for the best for them to get fixed because trying to work anything out with the vendors is a joke. I may be wrong, but I didn't have such experience with Apple at all and with new Galaxy incoming, I very much doubt experience will be any different. But if it will be, you'll hear about it from me for sure.
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LOL what an even bigger joke. Samsung's ego is really starting to inflate. Can't wait for Poco F5 Pro with 1440p, 8+ gen1 to launch for €400 just to show how much of a joke value these phones are.
What's it got to show for? At this price this A54 is directly competing with the Moto Edge 30 Fusion, which is on a whole other level of premium: better design, MUCH more premium materials, better haptics, better display, processor twice as fast. And likely even better battery life since Moto's got a good track record with that.
There is literally no reason why the A54 should be priced this high.
The only people Samsung is fooling with this poor value is those who only go after the brand. Shame on you.
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JayRoar, 11 Feb 20233 words.. lol!Thats 3 letters not words
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AnonD-731363, 11 Feb 2023Man you funny.
In other words if i put SD4 gen 1 to Samsu... moreI don't understand that example with Snapdragon 4 Gen 1 and S23 Ultra. Every component has to be in the same tier to be classified as a flagship. For example S23+ is not a flagship per se, because it doesn't have all the best what brand has to offer. As that role belongs to S Ultra series. But S23 and S23+ are really close to be a flagship but they are in fact high end. The same as Pixel 7 series, no matter their chipset which by now is performing like a 3 generation old chipset, that's because in all other most important things it can fight with the best out there and it is Google's best offering, so it can be consider as a flagship, their flagship. But in reality it's a high end device with really good set of cameras and clean software.
The whole point of a flagship is to be able to fight with other flagships offerings in the same era.
Several factors are being taken as a basic ones.
Their overall performance and fluidity, screen quality by newest standards, build quality, often with IP certificates but not mandatory if excels in other aspects, software stability and its longevity, camera results comparing with the best of that year both for shooting pics and videos, battery size and its autonomy, fast and ultra fast charging with option for wireless. I just wrote what most of people are looking on a flagship.
If we talk about Xiaomi, there was no Poco phone that was a flagship device. Ever. They maybe did put a flagship chipset but that doesn't make them flagships as they were lagging in other important aspects like camera results.
Xiaomi have a 2 sub brands with a good reason with both doing their own mission and offering us something different. Xiaomi is the only brand out of that 3 providing real flagships. Not Poco, nor Redmi. Just Xiaomi. But that's all planned and it works just fine.
Btw, even my old OnePlus 6T was better in many ways then Poco F1, it still wasn't a real flagship. Hell, it was in many ways better then S9+ but still lagged behind to be declared as a flagship, especially in camera department. And probably wireless charging which was getting very popular back then. Didn't even mentioned the Galaxy Note 9 which was probably last really good flagship from Samsung. I could never compare my 6T with that. But still think my 6T was one of the last OnePlus's flagship killers. Sadly.
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- 11 Feb 2023
The price of the a54... seems like Samsung's still doing "if it's higher price, it must be really good" logic for their potential customers. For instance, a Lenovo Legion Y70 is only 364USD for the 8/128GB version. IDK what Samsung's thinking when they priced that a54.
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IQ200, 11 Feb 2023Emm..
Flagship device is considered as a true flagshi... moreMan yes and no.
Even i can agree Poco F1 were a flagship killer or so.
But it definitely wasnt a midranger device with its specs.
Rest here: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_makes_the_pocophone_global_today_in_hong_kong_paris_and_jakarta-news-32959.php
Especialy lower end part which says: The Pocophone F1 may be priced like an upper midranger, but is a flagship through and through. It packs a Snapdragon 845 chipset, a 6.18-inch IPS LCD of 1080x2246px resolution, a dual 12MP f/1.9 + 5MP f/2.0 main camera, 20MP f/2.0 selfie camera and an infrared-assisted Face Unlock. And, Xiaomi has promised the Pocophone F1 will get Android P by the end of the year. You can read all about the Pocophone F1 in our detailed review.
But once again my question stands can we call Samsung S23 Ultra a flagship grade deice if phoen keeps all ihs tricks but will have SD 4 gen 1 CPU???
No will not.
Once again i am tired to argue because you were right but i wasnt wrong as well. Flagship killer device is cheaper version of a flagship you said that and honestly i agree.
But once again if company like Oneplsu, Realme, Xiaomi Doogee, Oukitel or Meizu make genuinely same device like is S23 ultra with all its specs exactly same apart the sticker on the phone the whole device will be 30-50% cheaper.
Phones dont need to cost 1500-2000 to be flagship grade and users dont need from phone to have billions of things which they will never use but have to pay for them anyway.
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Anonymous, 11 Feb 2023The higher the price for product the more effective placebo... moreThats what i mean only and really only exception were Vertu brand which costed way too much but offered a quality like noone else.
There are litterary no phones comparable to vertu brand when comes to quality.
All other brands are way more or way less expensive but not a premium quality brands.
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Anonymous, 11 Feb 2023The higher the price for product the more effective placebo... moreUntil they pick up the non-metal body phone.
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Anonymous, 11 Feb 2023"All and the only thing which determines flagship grad... morewell at least he didn't ask you sd card slot and 3.5 jack
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AnonD-731363, 11 Feb 2023Man you funny. In other words if i put SD4 gen 1 to Samsu... moreThe higher the price for product the more effective placebo effect will be for customers to think it's high class
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If flagships series have snap 8 gen 2 then A54 should have for sure snap 7 gen 2 , why exynos why Samsung? :(
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Anonymous, 11 Feb 2023I'm not sure if it's possible to put microSD card... moreWhat is stopping anyone to set a sd card in a Zenfone ? Never mind that it is same size as Samsung S22 while have 0.2 inch smaller screen. There is no reliable or explainable reason why they remove sd card slot while still have double sim card and second slot should also eat that sd card but no. Same with the 3.5mm jack they say no space. They have space to fit in massive cameras and dont complain that there is no space to add even more of them and more larger one
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AnonD-731363, 11 Feb 2023Man you funny.
In other words if i put SD4 gen 1 to Samsu... moreEmm..
Flagship device is considered as a true flagship if it can be compared by all components not just charging speeds or chipset. Get it? Poco F1 was a great flagship killer. Why killer and not a real flagship? Well compare Poco F1 with all flagship phones of that year and look for the results of each component they got.
Should we do it together? Those days you had to have premium materials build and all other things any flagship had. Those aren't present on Poco F1 because his pretty much sole purpose to offer a flagship chipset in a mid range device, as all other aspects besides chipset we could find on any mid range device of that era.
How was the screen in comparation with others, like S9+ for example? What about camera? Camera besides chipset has become pretty much the most important thing for validating phones.
We could do the same "find the flagship killer game" with OnePlus up to 8 Pro with that model being the last one considered as a flagship killer as he came with most of features flagships that year got with costing way less. But camera results were really behind, so OnePlus decided to change their philosophy with OnePlus 9 series where they for the first time tried to compete with all guns against the strongest flagships of that year. They updated everything they been missing to be a flagship, even their prices were much closer to those established flagships. They upgraded their camera too, but I guess lack of software experience to optimize it well didn't end so good, at least so far. Since then they're trying to be in that true flagships class rather then a flagship killer but it's not going too great. They are like Malcolm in the middle, not performing like other flagships, yet they have all what other flagships have. Even pricing.
How I know this?
Because I was in love with OnePlus and my 6T. And that was a flagship killer the same as Poco F1. God I loved that phone. I wanted to buy a new OnePlus but there's just no good alternative for what I been use to. But nevertheless, I know for sure that Chinese brand can have a great value too. I have a lot of respect for some Chinese brands but I have a lot of respect for people choosing a western brands as well as they have their value even they are most of the times initially more expensive then their Chinese counterparts.
I do have a new phone from a "western" brand now, and so far so good. But I miss my 6T really bad.
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- 11 Feb 2023
2023 and Samsung still putting 6GB of ram :/
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AnonD-731363, 11 Feb 2023Man you funny.
In other words if i put SD4 gen 1 to Samsu... moreWrongo-
The flagship is the best phone the manufacturer can make and acts as a business card for the company.
The snapdragon 8gx is a flagship chipset, but it doesn't make a flagship phone by itself.
Putting a 8G2 on a nokia 3310 does not a flagship make.
Saying that chipset is the only thing that makes a flagship, only helps marketing and youtubers to confuse the public and bring more money to their pocket.
"Oh woow, look at how this 1400$ iphone14PM is better than a 600$ flagship pixel 7"
"The 1300$ s23U is so much better than the 700$ oneplus 11"
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- 11 Feb 2023
Bad idea. I don't even know anyone who paid for A53 and this is gonna cost even more?
I'm aware that most of you guys who comment here sure know alot about phones, but most ordinary people don't even read/understand specs, there are just two common types of buyers. People who buy phones $300 max and people who buy samsung S series or iphone, and that's not gonna change anytime soon.
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- 11 Feb 2023
I don't see meaning of such articles , will they "tip" all phones now? Except they prepare people for unpleasant surprise. Well, never mind.
400-500 and 500-600 price range is simply too much. Let's see full specs and more importantly price drop once they actually enter market. If it won't be enough, I'd just turn around and forget these. 😑