Samsung is ready to begin mass production of third-gen 4nm chipsets

14 March 2023
The manufacturing process should start before the end of H1 2023.

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  • 16 Mar 2023

Isn't that 3nm?

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    • 15 Mar 2023

    Samuel , 15 Mar 2023Nm - nanometre is a billionth of a meter, they will lower t... moreSimply no

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      • 15 Mar 2023

      Anonymous, 14 Mar 2023exactly ... that is what the article presented https://e... moreGates and nodes are different things. Learn about electrical circuit

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        • 15 Mar 2023

        Hummus, 14 Mar 2023No, it will freak them out. The number is too big. You know... moreYeah, angstrom still a usable unit unlike pico

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          • 15 Mar 2023

          Vegetaholic, 14 Mar 2023Lol, learn your physics before we were on nano part we were... moreCompared to nano, pico is much much smaller unit. That is a quantum level unit. Which is still far dream. Physics 😂😂

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            • 15 Mar 2023

            Oluwasegun Ijarotimi, 14 Mar 2023It's actually very reasonably to start thinking about ... moreNm - nanometre is a billionth of a meter, they will lower that distance further and the new terminology will be picometer or pm.

              KKEIO, 14 Mar 2023Yield and performance 8Gen1+ is 40% better performance p... moreProof?

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                • 14 Mar 2023

                How does this "third-gen" 4nm Samsung Node compare to TSMC on Power Efficiency and Performance? It can get better in transistor density, and that's good, but if it doesn't stay competitive in the performance and energy front, Samsung will keep being left out of the big and important contracts. It seems that Google and Samsung want to keep them afloat (it's bad for their business to rely solely on TSMC in the future), but they need to improve their results. Hopefully, 3rd gen 4nm will help to recover from the 5nm Fiasco.

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                  • 14 Mar 2023

                  Hemedans, 14 Mar 2023The article clearly mention Qualcomm shift to Tsmc due to y... moreYield and performance

                  8Gen1+ is 40% better performance per watt compared to 8Gen1, both chips have the exact same design on persumably the same nm node. Samsung node is so bad even their own phones stopped using their in-house chips anymore

                    Jango5, 14 Mar 2023i mean no one really wants their old gen 4nm, since it was ... moreThe article clearly mention Qualcomm shift to Tsmc due to yield issues,

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                      • 14 Mar 2023

                      once upon a time ... a post ...

                      A recent media report that Samsung has established an internal team dedicated to CPU core development is not true. Contrary to the news, we have long had multiple internal teams responsible for CPU development and optimization while constantly recruiting global talents from relevant fields.

                      what does it really mean ??? why refuting a fact that samsung actually begin mass production of 3rd gen 4nm chipsets by posting news about internal dedicated team for cpu core development ??? to calm down some angry bosses ???

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                        • 14 Mar 2023

                        Hummus, 14 Mar 2023No, it will freak them out. The number is too big. You know... moreexactly ... that is what the article presented

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_nm_process

                        its just the need ... to push beyond boundaries ... and make the customer pay for their toys

                        even for the marketing term 2nm process, the physical gates still larger than 10 nm

                        why dont try to re-produce old 28nm process wafer in 4nm facility ... must be super efficient and super cool ... and the apps ... stop to mining customer devices, especially games, just let the customer play undistracted by ads and perhaps background mining

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                          • 14 Mar 2023

                          Jango5, 14 Mar 2023i mean no one really wants their old gen 4nm, since it was ... moreDefinitely can do both
                          Extended production of old chips is just cheaper why I like this opinion

                          But yeah definitely a place for new chips as well but there going come at a haftly production cost

                          You said overheating well
                          That's because Samsung hasn't learned how too keep the soc cool

                          Samsung needs improvements On cooling solutions
                          like having better cooling system like heat pipes active fans vapor chambers air vent custom loop water cooling system with ice cubes

                          Give few ideas the flagship soc sure do run hot on phones that's for sure

                            Sin, 14 Mar 2023You're avenge person doesn't need 4mm third gen c... morei mean no one really wants their old gen 4nm, since it was really bad, it had heating and performance problems, that's why qualcomm switched to TSMC, hope Samsung get it right this time

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                              • 14 Mar 2023

                              You're avenge person doesn't need 4mm third gen chipset

                              Smartphones are already way too damn expensive

                              This is just going be expensive change I much prefer extended production of older chipset for the mainstream
                              As only a handful of people actually need 4nm or can afford it

                                Blah bla bla to end up having the instagram 2% faster hahahaha why we better not put the autonomy of the battery? and we return the charger to the box?

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                                  Vegetaholic, 14 Mar 2023Lol, learn your physics before we were on nano part we were... moreNo, it will freak them out. The number is too big. You know, smaller is definitely better. /s

                                  But seriously though.. Maybe they will do like Intel, using Angstrom instead of pico.

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                                    Anonymous, 14 Mar 2023After 4 nm, 3nm,2nm,1nm. Then, ---1nm, --2nm, etcIt's actually very reasonably to start thinking about this, because once, they get to 1nm, then what next. They need to start developing other ways of improving phone efficiency and power other than this. Whether they like it or not, one day not too long from now, they will get to 1nm.

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                                      • 14 Mar 2023

                                      I'm sorry this is wrong. Customers don't generally pay for wafers it depends on the contract. In Samsungs case most customers only paid for functional chips because their yield is so bad.

                                        Anonymous, 14 Mar 2023After 4 nm, 3nm,2nm,1nm. Then, ---1nm, --2nm, etcLol, learn your physics before we were on nano part we were on the micro part, so after we reach below 1nm we simply move towards Pico, something like 900pm stuff and start all over again.

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