vivo is working on X90S flagship with upcoming Dimensity 9200+

07 April 2023
It will be the second vivo phone after the iQOO Neo8 Pro.

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vrvly, 08 Apr 2023Besides Vivo's lag in 200mp resolution race, they also... moreI remember the X70 Pro had 4 usable cameras including a gimbal, a 2x "portrait" and a 5x periscope all in a relatively manageable size (

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    Anonymous, 10 Apr 2023Don't forget OnePlus. The Nord 2T, 10R, and Nord CE 2 ... moreHeck, even my Realme X7 Max with D1200 is on A13 since more than a month ago and it started on A11.
    In fact iirc, it got the official final public A12 and A13 b4 its sister phone - Nord 2!

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      • 14 Apr 2023

      Vasra, 09 Apr 2023Yeah, Samsung is pretty much the only firm on earth that se... more they are the best all around, full stop. it's not a matter of SoC

      and mtk is as updated as qcom these days. Vivo for example offers a good 3 major updates to mtk devices, it's not 2016 mate

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        • 10 Apr 2023

        Vasra, 09 Apr 2023Yeah, Samsung is pretty much the only firm on earth that se... moreDon't forget OnePlus. The Nord 2T, 10R, and Nord CE 2 all got latest Android 13 OS despite using Dimensity chipset.

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          • 09 Apr 2023

          vrvly, 09 Apr 2023200mp got better detail at 50mp with some extra detail at 2... moreYou've got 200MP with 0.64microns photosites, it's too small. If there's not enough light, you will have to increase exposure time...it leads to blurry pictures.
          If you want details, you've got a very good 1/1.56" X3 sensor on Oppo X6/X6 Pro for exemple
          With your 200MP, you can expect same details compare to a 50MP "telephoto" X2 and only if you've got enough light...

            AnonD-1061957, 07 Apr 2023Samsung's Galaxy A34 has a MediaTek chip but it has 4 ... moreYeah, Samsung is pretty much the only firm on earth that seems to do that for Mediatek phones. Funny that.

              Anonymous, 08 Apr 2023I rather see variable aperture instead of 200MP sensor. The... moreI can agree with this. For all the hype about Samsung's 200MP sensor, I noticed that its effective pixel size at binned 12MP is not any bigger than the 1" 12MP native RGB sensor of the Sony Xperia Pro-I. Don't forget that the Pro-I doesn't utilize the whole 1" sensor canvas because it's trying to shoot photos in a taller 4:3 aspect ratio using a shorter 3:2 sensor canvas.

              As for variable aperture, it helps a lot in reducing excessive bokeh and exposure or highlight. If you watch Juan Bagnell's video about the downside of having a 1" sensor on a smartphone, you'll notice he's using an ND filter. When you have a fixed aperture camera sensor, the ND filter helps to increase the shutter speed by a lot.

                Anonymous, 08 Apr 20231" 50MP is a better choice than 200MP on main camera. ... more200mp got better detail at 50mp with some extra detail at 200mp. Considering how fast and capable it is in S23u in comparison to taking 240mp in full size camera(quality aside), it's just whole new world of speed.
                As it is with sensor design, the smaller resolution the better, but now you can choose based on how much light you got or what kind of scene you shoot, as opposed to low res, where there is not much to choose.
                Considering hw, phones use multiple prime cameras, meaning to get all you want from photography you would need like 8 cameras between 12mm and 600mm, all with variable aperture, if you want the best performance at every fov.
                12mm, 24mm, short and medium tele are the most used, but super tele and zoom or primes in between could be added too.
                Phones with 8-10 sensors inside would look certainly interesting, but compared to full size cameras you can get continous zoom at wide open aperture, which is even more important with small sensors.

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                  Anonymous, 08 Apr 2023I rather see variable aperture instead of 200MP sensor. The... more1"+variable aperture. Mate60 pro but it will come with the world number3 MobileOS .

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                    • 08 Apr 2023

                    vrvly, 08 Apr 2023Besides Vivo's lag in 200mp resolution race, they also... moreI rather see variable aperture instead of 200MP sensor. The IMX989 clearly shows that sensor size is still more important than resolution.

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                      • 08 Apr 2023

                      vrvly, 08 Apr 2023Besides Vivo's lag in 200mp resolution race, they also... more1" 50MP is a better choice than 200MP on main camera.
                      Especially when you have a X3 secondary camera.

                      In my opinion the best photophone is Oppo X6 Pro.
                      Because of :
                      - 1" main
                      - 1/1.56" X3...the best X3 sensor available on any smartphone
                      With far better sensor and digital zoom, between X10 and x30 it often takes better shots than the X10 sensor on S23 ultra

                      Samsung's choice aren't that good : 10MP 1/3.52" on X3 and X10 is a bad idea, sensor is bad, cheap, to small, can't capture light properly. It's only a bit better than crappy 8MP 1/4" ultra wide available on 150€ phones.

                      Vivo's choice with a X2 is a bad choice too! Not that usefull when your main cam is that awesome! You want a X2 shot, you get your main sensor with a digital zoom. With good sensors, X3 ration between each cameras is the way to go

                      I even prefer the standard X6...more equilibrate! Main 1/1.56" isn't the best but is already very good and you keep the best X3 sensor available on any phone.

                      In my opinion OEM should do this :
                      - 16mm (x0.6) 50MP 1/1.56 with OIS
                      - 48mm (X2) 50MP 1/1.56 with OIS
                      - 144mm (X6) 50MP 1/1.56 with OIS
                      Sensors definition is enough to fill the gap between each camera.
                      Same sensors will give same colors on each.
                      At x0.6 you can take 12.5 or 50MP native pictures
                      Between x0.6 and X2, you take 12.5MP pictures with software interpolation (cropped 12.5MP X0.6 with cropped 50MP x0.6 with 12.5MP X2)
                      At X2 you can get 12.5MP or 50MP native pictures.
                      Interpolation between X2 and X6
                      Native 12.5 and 50MP at X6.
                      Digital zoom up to x60

                      I think with this, you can get very good pictures up to x15...
                      And something very usable up to x60.

                      You don't need things like 9200 or 8 Gen 2...a 8200 is enough.
                      You don't need WQHD+, Fullhd+ is enough
                      You sell this around 700€ and that's it! With good software, it's will be a better photophone than any available today

                        Besides Vivo's lag in 200mp resolution race, they also miss the variable aperture, not to mention bright aperture and macro capabilities of tele lens.
                        They already lag behind samsung in tele reach, but with new rumors coming about xiaomi 5x hi res, their 3 or so times the zoom will be obviously left behind.
                        Vivo is haunted by poor tele a long time, now without even time to catch a breath.
                        What is true though, we lack better than 10x zoom, but hi res capable of achieving the same amount of detail at 10x would be improvement, and xiaomi may be the first to bring that.
                        I also shoot a lot at 3x or 10x, as well as with 0.6x, with samsung hw is quite uneven, with huawei you got to pay more for other OS, in this way it's xiaomi's win.
                        There are a little steps to differ from the others, but even small ones matter for the final decision of consumer.
                        Now Xiaomi will have few generation of slightly better hw, it's not just a hw to worry about as their price will be way better then.

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                          Vasra, 07 Apr 2023" hither than" Mediatek has come a long way bu... moreSamsung's Galaxy A34 has a MediaTek chip but it has 4 major updates and 5 years of security patches.

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                            Aierlan, 07 Apr 2023Hope the wifi and 5g signal can be improved from the x90. A... moreX137 pro...

                              Anonymous, 07 Apr 2023X100 pro+ with variable f on the way too for late 2023. Wouldn't be surprised

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                                • 07 Apr 2023

                                Totally doubt there will be a X90S Pro+ since there's no Snapdragon 8+ Gen 2.

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                                  • 07 Apr 2023

                                  X100 pro+ with variable f on the way too for late 2023.

                                    " hither than"

                                    Mediatek has come a long way but lack of updates on Mediatek phones is always an issue. Same for Vivo.

                                      Hope the wifi and 5g signal can be improved from the x90. Also hope they go with a more subtle curved screen so the green edges are less visible than on the x90. The cameras were already pretty good on the x90

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                                        • 07 Apr 2023

                                        yalim, 07 Apr 202350MP main cam with lossless 2x zoom could replace this 2x t... moreTrue, I even prefer the standard Oppo X6 with a 3x IMX890 over the X90 Pro...
                                        Despite the lack of 1" sensor.

                                        1/1.56" main is already great!
                                        1/1.56" x3 is just awesome

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