Apple M3 chip's specs revealed as testing starts

15 May 2023
The CPU will be 12 cores, the GPU is said to be 18 cores, RAM is 36 GB.

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potato4k, 15 May 2023Relax. 4nm is not bad. Just look at Snapdragon 8 gen 2. As ... moreTSMC Fab in Arizona gonna be awesome lol

    potato4k, 15 May 2023M2 "overheats" because Apple is cutting corners i... moreThey do everything good BUT laptop thermal management.

      Am I the only one trying to cheer and hoping for Samsung Fab to get any better hahaha.

      If that's happen then Consumers could have better overall products as Designers like AMD, Qualcom etc will have cheaper alternatives which should bring down price overall as Samsung fab is supposed to be 20% cheaper than TSMC (based from what I read somewhere)

      But thats wishingful thinking I guess, lets see how Samsung fab will do in coming months/years. Better show it first with their Exynos lol.

        Hanif Fikri, 15 May 2023please let have android have it too..lolRelax. 4nm is not bad. Just look at Snapdragon 8 gen 2. As long as it's from TSMC, we can relax. The hope is TSMC doing fine so Qualcomm don't have to rely on Samsung fab again.

          Anonymous, 15 May 2023Hopefully it won't overheat. M1 was promising. M2, not... moreM2 "overheats" because Apple is cutting corners in the design of the devices by not even putting a heatsink on the M2 MacBook air and using a much smaller one on the MacBook Pros. And Apple tuned it too aggressively to show performance gains vs the M1. The M2 would've been fine if Apple didn't be so cheapskate in their expensive laptops.

            Mills, 15 May 2023If Apple gets their hands on 3nm, Qualcomm and Mediatek are... moreMeh. The bottleneck is pretty much just TSMC's volume as they're the one making the actual chips for everyone. Design wise, even Qualcomm has caught up, especially in GPU. Apple is getting sloppy and losing their focus.

            Right now Apple is trying to win by bruteforcing with money.

              electrash, 15 May 2023I dont know what you talk about. I have M1 Pro and it was n... moreThat's what he meant. The M1 series was good, but the M2 series suffered from over heating.
              He did not say M1 was overheating.

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                electrash, 15 May 2023I dont know what you talk about. I have M1 Pro and it was n... moreM2 had some pretty bad overheating/ throttling in their respective Macbook models.

                  Mills, 15 May 2023If Apple gets their hands on 3nm, Qualcomm and Mediatek are... moreFirstly, the Intel 7 (++10nm) is NOT doing too well against TSMC-5nm. You're conflating Intel's 13th-gen vs AMD's Zen4. It's not a straight comparison. And the clue is there when you undervolt them. The Intel 13th-gen seems to be more advanced, but it chokes out, and takes as much energy as possible. AMD's chips can safely be detuned to save on battery life, have a look at the thermal behaviour of the new Z1e, r7-4840u, r7-7800x3d, or other chipsets. AMD still has a sizeable advantage from the node, but they aren't squandering it, they're using chiplet design and 3D Stacking effectively. These will be crucial when we finally do hit "a wall" in terms of silicon not getting smaller or more efficient.

                  The next-gen chipset from Qualcomm will use a new architecture (2nd-gen ARMv9 / Cortex-A730) and the TSMC-3nm lithography, and it will finally catch up and slightly surpass Apple. They have the overclocked A15 chip dubbed the A16-Bionic and have been leading the market for some time now, by 2.0 generations.

                  However, by the time Qualcomm releases the QC 8g3, Apple would have had their next-gen chipset on the market for almost 6 months. The Apple A17-Bionic will also use the TSMC-3nm node and use a new architecture. iPhones will be another 1.0 to 1.5 generations ahead of Android phones, but this is competition, it will be a good day for consumers overall.

                    If you take my above comment into consideration, and you look at their history, there's a high probability that you will see close to this:

                    2023-08-01: Q3 Apple S9 (Watch)
                    2023-09-01: Q3 Apple A17-Bionic (iPhone)
                    2024-03-01: Q1 Apple M2 Ultra (Mac Studio/Mac Pro)
                    2024-07-01: Q3 Apple M3 (iPad Pro/MacBook Air)
                    2024-09-30: Q3 Apple A18-Bionic (iPhone)
                    2024-10-30: Q4 Apple S10 (Watch)
                    2025-01-30: Q1 Apple M3 Pro/Max (MacBook Pro)
                    2025-08-30: Q2 Apple M3 Ultra (Mac Studio/Mac Pro)
                    2025-08-30: Q3 Apple S11 (Watch)
                    2025-09-30: Q3 Apple A19-Bionic (iPhone)
                    2025-11-30: Q4 Apple M4 (iPad Pro/MacBook Air)

                    ...just add/minus 1-2 months from the dates I listed. But that's their roadmap for the near future. I'm sure they will introduce new SKU and Chipsets (VR Headsets, Large Desktops, Wearables, Car Chipsets, TV Console chipset etc etc), otherwise they might just re-purpose their other chips for some new products. It's hard to know specifically, but the above is still accurate.

                      If Apple gets their hands on 3nm, Qualcomm and Mediatek are gonna have trouble catching up. The N4 (second gen) doesn't stand a chance to A17 based on a 3nm process,

                        Hemedans, 15 May 2023Those are desktop and laptop cpu? yes, is there something wrong? This chip works for Mac desktops too right?

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                          Kangal, 15 May 2023I don't trust this at all. The M2 felt like it was re... more5nm was almost exclusive to Apple for 2 year, the same will be with 3nm. Snap8Gen3 will be on 4nm.
                          Actually we should not use "nm", because Intel 7 (10nm) is doing extremely well against Zen 4 TSCM 4. How TSCM 4nm can be only as good as Intel 10nm?

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                            you should pay more attention guys. the chip in question is supposed to be an M3 Pro, as per Gurman's words, not a base M3.

                              I don't trust this at all.
                              The M2 felt like it was released only yesterday, and he's saying the next one in this year. Nope. There's no doubt that there are samples out there in the Apple Labs, but Mark Gurman forgot one thing: availability.

                              TSMC-3nm was supposed to be released in early-2022 and has been pushed back to late-2023. That's mostly due to the pandemic. The current yields are strong, but there's still going to be a shortage, since demand is high.

                              The first batch will go into the Apple A17-Bionic, the second batch will goto Qualcomm's QC 8g3, the next batch to AMD's server processors. That will cover most of the wafers for 2023-2024. Then Apple will release the M3, AMD's mainstream products will make the leap, higher volumes of MediaTek Dimensity chips will be available, and other companies. The next big batch will probably goto Apple M3-MAX, Nvidia's dGPUs and AMD's Chiplet-GPUs, and the price will be lower for even more companies to make orders.

                              That's the pattern we've seen with their previous big node jumps (16nm, 10nm, 7nm, 5nm).

                                And we will still base config as 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD, like we were in 2019.

                                  please let have android have it too..lol

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                                    • 15 May 2023

                                    Look more like evolution than revolution and more alike Intel by adding only more E cores.
                                    I have bad feeling that TSCM 3nm is not going well.

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                                      Anonymous, 15 May 2023Hopefully it won't overheat. M1 was promising. M2, not... moreI dont know what you talk about. I have M1 Pro and it was never overheated

                                        rizki1, 15 May 2023that's nuts, mobile CPU is getting faster and faster a... moreThose are desktop and laptop cpu?

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