Video shows the rigorous testing that the Galaxy Z Flip5 and Z Fold5 went through
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Jimbob, 31 Jul 2023Thats some serious testing... I like itOnly the video is serious, you don't wanna drop these models on the ground.
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- 31 Jul 2023
Thats some serious testing... I like it
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- Fliplife
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- 28 Jul 2023
I have a flip and I haven’t had any issues (flip 3).
But this is just absolutely marketing spin
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- 28 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2023Only in your imagination.
In real world, samsung has mor... moreAnd being in market leading position for so long makes Samsung complacent, with each new generation of Fold and Flip having minimal improvements.
Hate the Chinese as much as you want, but more competition from the Chinese in the global stage is what we needed for the folding phone segment to improve.
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- Akarius
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- 28 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2023I understand your point, but remember the iPhone 6 bendgate... moreI agree with everything you say, I just wanted to point out looking at the product quality through the lens of how many broken ones are being sold on second-hand market is no indicator of anything, really.
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- 28 Jul 2023
wiggypop, 27 Jul 2023my flip 3 lasted 164 days. used perfectly, no drops or dama... morei wouldn't jump in to flip or fold phone rn, i ll wait n see at least for 3 years to come
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- 27 Jul 2023
my flip 3 lasted 164 days. used perfectly, no drops or damage caused. A crease formed one morning and 2 hours later the screen was nonfunctional.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
Akarius, 27 Jul 2023As opposed to fully running, non-broken ones that users don... moreI understand your point, but remember the iPhone 6 bendgate back in the day? It also only affected some users, but with the 6S Apple used a different aluminium alloy.
My old phones are also in pristine condition and they lasted years each, but like you said not everyone treats their phones carefully. Even if it's a small percentage they should not be ignored because they could hurt the brand's reputation. In my opinion people who abuse their phones should be an incentive to make better products, not an excuse for bad engineering or bad design decisions.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2023Only in your imagination. In real world, samsung has mor... moreA high market share doesn't reflect build quality 🤡
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- Cpt.Power
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- 27 Jul 2023
Akarius, 27 Jul 2023"Honestly Samsung test done with help of AI are not in... moreBut we are right.
Some martial arts shaolin monk can easily open and close the phone 200 000 times a day without any suffering.
Samsung AI uses same strength and same speed every closing and opening is litterary the same it does not prove anything.
Especialy does not prove real durability of the hinge.
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- 27 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2023Any amount of "rigorous testing" won't refle... moreAs opposed to fully running, non-broken ones that users don't sell. And it would be really difficult to assess what the percentage of broken ones are being sold.
My wife's cousin is using Flip 4 and the screen protector looks hideous around the crease, pealing off and becoming snotty-yellow.
But I also know what kind of user she is and it's the worst one you can imagine, not giving a damn about her phone, throwing it everywhere like a piece of garbage, probably doesn't know half the things she shouldn't do to the phone to keep it operational. Last one she had - S20 FE - she broke after 9 months, whereas I used mine for over 2 years with no issues.
Do we really want to paint an entire picture about phone quality based on a marginal case of the most sadistic phone users?
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
Any amount of "rigorous testing" won't reflect real world usage. That's why they claim 200k cycles in their artificial tests, but you go to used section on eBay and it's full of cracked UTG's right in the crease.
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- Akarius
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- 27 Jul 2023
Sergiu, 27 Jul 2023Why do people care so much about that i really dont underst... more"Why do people care so much about that i really dont understand."
Most of them never used it past playing around in a store display, smearing from top to bottom of the screen once or twice, thinking "Yup, can feel it" and going away. There's no thought process there, no analysis of how someone uses the device daily, usually scrolling on the sides of the screen instead of through the vertical crease, cause that requires thinking outside of your mental preconceived box and it's a hard thing to do.
I've been using ZF4 for nearly two months now and the visibility and "feal-a-bility" of the crease is marginal in my daily use. Completely impossible to see inside buildings or in a car, visible and somewhat annoying in full sun. But to me, the pro of having the gigantic inner screen for data consumption, daily activities and the odd simple game I play far outweighs the inconvenience of a small crease in the middle. There is no other device like that, not with an IPx8 rating and that's far more important to me than a flat unfolded screen that has no humidity resistance (let alone water resistance - laughable in today's technology).
Everyone needs to decide for themselves how much of a bother it is, but to make that informed decision one has to test it in their daily lives instead of being the comment section tester with no real-life experience with the device.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2023All these "rigorous" tests and yet they break on ... moreOnly in your imagination.
In real world, samsung has more than 80% of foldable marketshare.
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- 27 Jul 2023
PeterThePanda, 27 Jul 2023Simple. Because Samsung is getting lazy and doing the Apple... more"Simple. Because Samsung is getting lazy and doing the Apple route when it comes to updates: trickling it very slowly per generation of device. They're also cutting corners when it comes product quality."
Try and outline a 10-year plan for Samsung, revolutionizing each generation of Fold every year. Let's see what you can come up with, do you accept the challenge? No, creasless screen is not "revolution", that's an incremental update. Come up with ten revolutions (pun unintended) the magnitude of slab vs foldable phone revolution and let's see how far you can push these phone ahead.
Also: Samsung cutting corners in foldables quality? Saying you're detached from reality is like saying Godzilla is of slightly above average height. The phone is absolutely high-quality, best I've seen in my life, JerryRigEverything tortured the device throwing dirt into its hinge and it didn't even notice, and you keep claiming they're cutting corners when it comes to quality?
With this amount of grasp of reality it comes as no surprise that a .5mm crease is unforgiveable blasphemy to you guys, out of which 99% never owned the device or used it beside shop display.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
PeterThePanda, 27 Jul 2023But they still can't minimize that hideous crease that... moreYeah of course it's a guinea pig phone..
Guinea pig phone/ Pixel fold:
- thick bezel like a phone from 2000s era, the phone must be a competitor of nokia communicator from 2005
- no desktop mode
- it is just a rebranded samsung fold phone with google brand, like other pixel phone
- using stock android (like some chinese phone brand) because lack of resource to create beautiful UI like One UI,
- will not sell it worldwide because it was inferior product to begin with.
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- Akarius
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- 27 Jul 2023
PeterThePanda, 27 Jul 2023But they still can't minimize that hideous crease that... more"But they still can't minimize that hideous crease that's so deep you can dive an underwater submersible with 5 people in it."
I put a pack of cigarettes on it to check how deep it is, from the lack of better ruler or something else readily available. I can't tell with a naked eye whether that's .5 mm or .7mm.
I use it daily on my Fold 4 and can only feel it with a finger, and even that's rare cause it's vertical and I more often scroll on the sides. Absolutely not possible to feel it with S-Pen under normal usage, unless you deliberately feather the surface with as little pressure as you can to try and feel it.
This "gigantic" crease is marginally impacting daily usage, but to decide that you actually have to use it instead of being a comment section know-it-all with no real world experience, just sayin'.
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- Akarius
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- 27 Jul 2023
Cpt.Power, 27 Jul 2023Honestly Samsung test done with help of AI are not interest... more"Honestly Samsung test done with help of AI are not interesting and are on a completely different level than same test by humans where its a different kind of pressure and force used each time phone is opened and closed."
No sane human can open and close this phone as a test in any amount of time that would be acceptable for pre-production unit testing, that's why it's robotized because machine can do it time after time, non-stop, 24h a day. The lengths you people go to find a reason to moan is bordering laughable.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
PeterThePanda, 27 Jul 2023Simple. Because Samsung is getting lazy and doing the Apple... moreAgreed!, Just look at the Honor Magic V2 as an example of what a foldable can be with a little more work and not just a lazy re-hash.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Jul 2023
All these "rigorous" tests and yet they break on the very first drop in real world. Lmao