Intel unveils Thunderbolt 5 with up to 120 Gbps of bandwidth

12 September 2023
That's as much as triple Thunderbolt 4.

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USB 2 can be phased out, without any pain to anyone as USB is backwards compatible.

But I would support USB 4 to do the same thing that USB did all these years, increase compatibility including backwards compatibility. And to reduce dependence on any one company.

    Almand, 17 Sep 2023Honestly, USB 2.0 in this age, should be banned now.I agree. They're still milking the USB 2.0 port since usb C came into existence. This makes you buy cloud storage since your backups to the PC will be slow. SMH.

      James Holden, 15 Sep 2023Yeah but they force you to shell out more for the pros inst... moreHonestly, USB 2.0 in this age, should be banned now.

        Almand, 13 Sep 2023At least the iPhone 15 Pros support 10gbpsYeah but they force you to shell out more for the pros instead of enabling it on the regular iphone 15s

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          The problem is for Microsoft it takes at least 10 years to understand, the next Linux release will have support for the new USB standard , love Linux microOS

            Anonymous, 13 Sep 2023btw usb 4.0 is based on thunderbolt specification.the opposite because USB 4 Version 2.0 announced about 1 year ago

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              Technologist, 12 Sep 2023So it’s the same as USB 4 Version 2.0. I’m waiting to get i... morebtw usb 4.0 is based on thunderbolt specification.

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                Technologist, 12 Sep 2023So it’s the same as USB 4 Version 2.0. I’m waiting to get i... more🤦‍♂️
                Start reading USB 4 2.0 Spec DOESN'T allow for 3-lane 40Gbps. If anything, it's just a less stricter version of Thunderbolt 5 with less bandwidth. Again it's just a freaking USB standard, Intel, AMD, Apple.... Literally ANYONE can use it anyway. 🤦‍♂️

                  James Holden, 12 Sep 2023USB 4 supports 40Gbps. Maybe make USB 4.5 with 80Gbps and U... moreAt least the iPhone 15 Pros support 10gbps

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                    this will be amazing for pc handhelds

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                      Nice.. as expected..

                        So it’s the same as USB 4 Version 2.0. I’m waiting to get it from AMD with the next versions of handheld gaming PC

                          Wonder if ordinary eople will see difference between 120Hz or 540Hz.
                          Probabbly not and if only maybe on monitors equal or bgger than 100 inch.

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                            James Holden, 12 Sep 2023USB 4 supports 40Gbps. Maybe make USB 4.5 with 80Gbps and U... moreAs late as possible, if you'd ask Intel. Intel has a big foot in both "standards" and they're making money off the TB mess, so they will obviously do what they've always done, slow the progress of USB as much as they can.

                            An other thing for Vestager and the EU to look into. They have a loooong list of antitrust issues to fix, mostly because the US counterpart doesn't give a flying one about consumers.

                              USB 4 supports 40Gbps. Maybe make USB 4.5 with 80Gbps and USB 5 with 120Gbps.
                              It's a shame that we're still lagging in transfer speeds on USB C. Todays phones under $800 have usb 2.0 type C. Just a handful have 3.1 which is a mere 5Gbps.

                              When are we gonna see USB 4 40Gbps on high end phones as well as budget laptops? We need faster transfer rates now more than ever.

                                Thos won't be very impactful now but in time it will become the standard

                                It's good to see tech just improving

                                  Darth Caesium, 12 Sep 2023Now if only Thunderbolt was just a USB standard, and the US... moreI don't wanna get spoiled and beg for a Phone that supports Thunderbolt 4... but maybe in the next 2 years we'll get it... or we'll still be stuck with USB 3.2 and 2.0 for every smartphone.

                                    Now if only Thunderbolt was just a USB standard, and the USB consortium required every USB 4 cable to use Thunderbolt 5. Also, I wish they discontinued USB 2.0 entirely, and pushed people onto USB 3.2 for the lower-end hardware and USB 4.0 120Gbps (Thunderbolt 5 essentially) for the higher-end hardware. Then every phone could have video output and use DisplayPort signals.

                                      meh, that's nice for content creation. too bad it requires a Graphics Card, but who's gonna care.

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