Experiment: Apple iPhone 15 Pro's 28mm and 35mm modes are just digital crops
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- Anonymous
- nU2
- 20 Dec 2023
Waitasecond11, 17 Nov 2023Upscaled from 24 Megapixels? What? It's a 48 Megapixel... moreThey're not unfortunately. They're probably just upscaling 12mp images and sharpening them into 24
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- Waitasecond11
- kr1
- 17 Nov 2023
Upscaled from 24 Megapixels? What? It's a 48 Megapixel sensor. They are downsampling ALL of these images, even the 35mm equivalent shot.
28mm is going from 41.1 Megapixels to 24 Megapixels
35mm is going from 32 Megapixels to 24 Megapixels
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 27 Sep 2023
Branimir, 27 Sep 2023The 48 MPx sensor sits behind a 12 MPx color filter, so the... morePhones like Mate X2 and iPhone 14 Pro resolved the hole patterns in GSMArena's balcony scene perfectly in full resolution mode, so I would say with clever enough demosaicing and/or image stacking you could extract a comparable amount of details from a Quad Bayer sensor to a regular Bayer sensor of the same resolution.
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- Ben
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- 27 Sep 2023
genius., 26 Sep 2023Duh. Fell for Apple marketing again. (just digital crops... more. It is not discernible by the eye because they used the 24 megapixel image resolution, not the 48,
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- Branimir
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- 27 Sep 2023
It would be great if you could compare the 35mm mode with a 24 MPx camera with a 35mm lens (23mm on APS-C)
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- Branimir
- mD3
- 27 Sep 2023
Nick Tegrataker, 26 Sep 2023No, the level of details would be identical between those 3... moreThe 48 MPx sensor sits behind a 12 MPx color filter, so the detail is far from 48 MPx. Plus, the lens is probably not sharp to resolve 48 MPx of detail.
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- Ben
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- 27 Sep 2023
genius., 26 Sep 2023Duh. Fell for Apple marketing again. (just digital crops... more. It is not discernible by the eye because they used the 24 megapixel image resolution, not the 48,
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 27 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 25 Sep 2023About the 24mp 24mm
Apple chips have weaker ISP compared ... moreApple's own advertisement material denies your claim:
"The new Photonic Engine combines the best pixels from a super‑high‑resolution image with another that’s optimised for light capture. So you automatically get 24MP photos"
I guess the new iPhone 15 Pro does combine 48MP frames with 12MP ones to get a 24MP photo, eh? Chalking up another lie from you, nothing unusual right there🤷
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 27 Sep 2023
Fa14bi, 26 Sep 2023Thing is, the details in identical on all 3. The 24MP doesn... moreI would say the photos look fine 24MP - While they lack a tad bit of micro contrast at 200%, they are still noticeably more detailed compared to most other 12MP shooters (e.g. Xperia 5 V). Impressively enough, Find X6 Pro does come pretty close, though the finest details still look fairly pixelated compared to those from the iPhone at the same magnification. I'll be waiting for GSMArena to release their full review as their balcony scene usually does a good job showcasing how much details each camera manages to resolve.
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- 27 Sep 2023
JaiHind69420, 27 Sep 2023In this reality, the link you sent just pointed out that th... more‘In your alternate reality,’ yes it’s made by a technerd.
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- 27 Sep 2023
justasmile, 26 Sep 2023‘In your alternate reality, yes you are right.’ https://na... moreIn this reality, the link you sent just pointed out that the old A16 really crushed that latest android flagship chip. Plus that website is even made by specnerds like you. Haha
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- Fa14bi
- mVv
- 26 Sep 2023
Nick Tegrataker, 26 Sep 2023No, the level of details would be identical between those 3... moreThing is, the details in identical on all 3. The 24MP doesn't even feel like full 24MP.
This post here also shows, take the crop from 24mm and the crop from 35mm. The crop from 35mm on the clock doesn't reveal any more detail than the clock crop from 24mm.
Apples 24MP does capture more detail than samsungs 12MP, but on detail difference, it feels like 14MP and not 12MP, so it feels a little AI upscaled and what Pixel also does with digital zoom.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 26 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 26 Sep 2023That would mean that you get more detail at 35mm than on 24... moreNo, the level of details would be identical between those 3 modes. It's not upscaling from 12MP, but rather photos have been cropped from 48MP photos and then scaled to match the standard "24"MP.
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- Aerni68
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- 26 Sep 2023
@ GSMARENA Team:
Please consider in the test the fact for the IPhone 15 Pro Max, that hardware-supported Zoom-in's are only on level 2x (with 48 MP main camera) and 5x (telephoto lens). But there is quite a huge gap between 2x and 5x, which can only be managed in a digital way. So the question to be answered by your review: How are 3x zoomed photos (oviously digitally zommed in) look like? Are they mediocre? All in all the 24 MP photos so far are looking quite soft and are missing a good portion of sharpness. How is the 12 MP mode doing in that respect? And how is the performance for genuine 48 MP photos? Is a shot in 48 MP plus downscaling to 12 MP now the best option? Or can the 48 MP photos be used directly, as it was possible with IPhone 14 Pro Max?
A different story would be the USB-C port at the IPhone 15 Pro Max. With USB 3.0 as foundational standard, connectivity benefits with regards to attached SSD's could be seen as obvious. But is something changing with USB-C, when connecting the IPhone 15 Pro Max to a 16:9 monitor? Please - GSMARENA team - can you shed some light on that topic as well?
Is it possible to check also the reception quality in general? Why not finding a "reference corner" in a underground parking garage, where only the best phones have sufficient reception levels, why other would fail to connect with the mobile network (separated by LTE and 5G)? It would be incredible great to see also your findings for that topic as well!
I'm looking forward to your high-class review of the IPhone 15 Pro Max covering als those aspects being mentioned above as well!
Many thanks a & greets
Aerni68
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- genius.
- nC4
- 26 Sep 2023
Duh.
Fell for Apple marketing again. (just digital crops) How else you imagined it to be?
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- Anonymous
- m6u
- 26 Sep 2023
Nick Tegrataker, 25 Sep 2023Of course it is digital crop, since: 24mm -> 48MP downs... moreThat would mean that you get more detail at 35mm than on 24mm, which isn´t the case. It just seems all 3 are upscaled from 12MP
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- Anonymous
- m6u
- 26 Sep 2023
YUKI93, 26 Sep 2023Is it even a surprise though. Digital hybrid zoom is the on... more10 times optical with 1 inch sensor. Would make the lens about 15cm thickas well then. and minimum 2cm at 1 time
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- Anonymous
- XSs
- 26 Sep 2023
YUKI93, 26 Sep 2023Is it even a surprise though. Digital hybrid zoom is the on... more200mp is better than 108mp nonsense in terms of non cropping video capturing
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- yalim
- mu4
- 26 Sep 2023
dexton, 25 Sep 2023Can every phone start cropped every time photo app starts? ... moreI don't see a point to use digital zoom as default. anyways,you can do it for selfie and portrait mode under camera settings/settings to keep.
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- Maria
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- 26 Sep 2023
I will be silent when talking this technically. What about the telephoto/periscope of iPhone? Is it digital crop too?