Canalys: Global PC market is slowly recovering, yearly decline narrows to 7%

11 October 2023
The analysis includes desktop and notebook shipments of 65.546 million in Q3.

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lol, 12 Oct 2023what no one wants a plastic box with bad display and camerapeople loves heat boxes

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    what no one wants a plastic box with bad display and camera

      777cobalt, 11 Oct 2023Even in wealthy countries only like 30% of young people (ju... moreI can agree with that. Just go to r/SamsungDeX and see just how many people there only use their DeX-supported Samsung smartphone/tablet as their primary computer. I also now mostly use my phone as my PC when travelling outstation. Modern smartphones of today are now so crazy powerful, even from the entry-level segment, that they can easily be the only computer average consumers ever need. That's why Desktop Mode should be a mainstream feature by now. In the olden days of Motorola Atrix 4G and ASUS Padfone, the SoC was way too slow for such a job. It was another case of being too ahead of its time.

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        Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023It's not even clear what an "AI PC" will be.... moreI think it got to do with software like Windows Copilot. That relies on AI for search.

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          777cobalt, 11 Oct 2023Even in wealthy countries only like 30% of young people (ju... moreMost people don't use or require PC for day to day operations and if they need they can use modern phones.
          PC are mostly used by RESEARCH, GOVERNMENT, MILITARY, HOSPITAL, EDUCATION, BUSINESS organisations.
          In last few years PC sales were high, thus those who bought in those years will not buy new one soon.
          Ordinary people will never ever feel the need to buy PC, thus that market will not be captured by anyone.
          Those streamers also buys large number of PC units but in a low growth global economy even they can't drive sales on upside.

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            SuperSpruce, 12 Oct 2023What is this "AI-enabled PC" nonsense? Our phones... moreNot only that.
            Even those who plays online games since last 10 or 15 years are using AI.
            AI is just like that DOT COM BUBBLE that is giving all large software companies huge capital.
            AI is nothing but most high end devices that are operating with large data sets and responding much more efficiently.
            Not everyone understand that.

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              AnonD-1124589, 11 Oct 2023I'm guessing they are talking about PCs that can use A... moreA.I upscaling to do what?

              These prediction companies like canalys, gartner get paid to always paint a tosy picture about future sales demand. And the new buzzword they invented is A.I P.C which they say will boost future demand.

              It won't do anything. A.i will be accessed more through phones in the future.

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                Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023I highly doubt it's the ARM revolution to blame. Apple... moreThe only reason Apple adopted ARM was to make their devices as unmodifiable as their phones. So, you can forget about replaceable *anything*. Too bad the EU takes forever to catch on to these things, even though they eventually do, unlike the FTC in their "home country".

                  What is this "AI-enabled PC" nonsense? Our phones have been using AI for years for text predictions, and we already use AI when we use Chat got and the like. Heck, high-end PCs already can run big LLM AI models.

                  Previously I thought AI was truly revolutionary but somehow it's getting so incredibly overused in marketing that it's lost its meaning. Also, a lot of the current Gen of AI is proving to not be economical. Watch it crash until another actually revolutionary AI breakthrough (like ChatGPT) happens 5 years down the road.

                    Even in wealthy countries only like 30% of young people (just a guess) own a real computer these days. Most people do everything personal on their phones and only use computers for work-related stuff.

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                      Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023How's the ARM revolution going, Apple? -30% sales? Don... moreI highly doubt it's the ARM revolution to blame. Apple has been cought doing shaddy stuff when it comes to hardware repairability and data retention reliability (soldered on ssds without the ability to boot from external hardware).
                      In other news when are replaycable keyboards comming back?

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                        Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023It's not even clear what an "AI PC" will be.... moreI'm guessing they are talking about PCs that can use AI upscaling and such.

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                          • 11 Oct 2023

                          How's the ARM revolution going, Apple? -30% sales? Don't panic! I bet those optimised synthetic benchmarks will start fooling people soon!

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                            • 11 Oct 2023

                            It's not even clear what an "AI PC" will be. AMD has had some dedicated silicon since their current laptop chips launched at the beginning of this year, but there's no software support yet. Intel is expected to announce something similar soon, with maybe some support, but I'd expect most of these products to quickly become obsolete.

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                              Really good news

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                                OpenAI will probably prefer you to just use their API instead of buying a new PC 😜