OnePlus 12 and 12R begin global rollout
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- Raky
- iL1
- 23 Jan 2024
All, but Not Norway....
Actually, there is one shop that is selling it, but they don't give away any gifts.
And by the way, B&O headphones was just a lie.
- Azu10157
- kk{
- 23 Jan 2024
Genuine question: for phones with these crazy fast charging speeds, is there any setting that limits the charging limit to x% to protect battery lifespan? Or do owners of such devices just charge their phone when they wake up
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- Anonymous
- U@6
- 23 Jan 2024
Pierre sur internet, 23 Jan 2024How many years of OS /Android and/or security updates on th... more4 years software and 5 years security...
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- Anonymous
- 7k{
- 23 Jan 2024
Pierre sur internet, 23 Jan 2024How many years of OS /Android and/or security updates on th... moreI guess same as oneplus 11
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- Artem S. Tashkinov
- pXm
- 23 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2024You're absolutely wrong about the iPhone, mate
The iP... moreI've not owned a single Apple product ever.
You are way over your head with your assumptions about what I think of iPhones in general. Here in Russia they have been perceived and sold as luxury devices. That's not too much different for a lot of markets including India, China, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, the entirety of South Africa and South America, etc. etc. etc. We are easily talking about 75% of the world population if not more.
Whereas in Android you can get a ton of content for "free" (by pirating/downloading it) iOS is made such a way it makes you buy everything which is not an option for billions of people. Apple makes devices for people who believe they are rich enough to afford them.
Maybe you're from a first-world country and $1000 is a pocket change for you but remember that the world works differently and OnePlus gained its success not the least because they used to cater to the vast majority of people in the world.
And lastly according to the BoM, Samsung enjoyed close to 60% margins on its SGS23 Ultra. Check: androidcentral . com/phones/heres-how-much-it-costs-samsung-to-make-the-galaxy-s23-ultra
That means OnePlus has decided to have comparable margins, IOW they don't care about frugal customers any more. They have become a brand for the rich/wealthy and their pricing proves that beyond reasonable doubt.
Too bad most other brands who sell premium phones offer much better support. Monthly updates, SGS24 comes with 7 years of guaranteed updates. And not only that ColorOS sold as OxygenOS is just horrible.
- GregLu
- p@r
- 23 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2024The 8MP ultrawide has been used on EVERY SINGLE MIDRANGE BB... more699 for 8MP and 2MP si just ludicrous 🧐
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- Pierre sur internet
- pd8
- 23 Jan 2024
How many years of OS /Android and/or security updates on these two smartphones ? (12 and 12R) ??? ....
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- Anonymous
- rKm
- 23 Jan 2024
Artem S. Tashkinov, 23 Jan 2024iPhone has always striven to be a luxury device. Why would ... moreYou're absolutely wrong about the iPhone, mate
The iPhone is not a luxury product, so justifying it's price by saying that it's a luxury product is just bs. It's premium but not luxury, and also to let you know, all flagships today have overall same build quality, so idk where that "iPhone luxury" assumption came from.
Fyi the base iPhone is no match before Android flagships in the same price segment. It doesn't even have a high refresh rate display. So please, get your facts right before commenting
Coming to the OnePlus, the One you're talking about from 2014 was NOT a flagship phone. It just had a top end chipset. An average flagship from the same time was about €600 which accounting for inflation is still well below the €1200 mark of today, but phones today are not the same as back then. A lot of features didn't exist that time, that phones today pack. I'm not justifying the high prices that phones have reached today but just letting you know that there are way overpriced phones out there, selling in millions, and they still aren't considered to be overpriced, just because apple is good at psychological marketing, making buyers believe it's something extraordinary. And looking at you, it's aptly clear that it works, when you say that iPhone prices are totally okay because iPhone is "luxury" product
- CamoGeko-XDA
- yat
- 23 Jan 2024
Pricing isn't competitive at all of the 12, you can get the same SD8 Gen3 for half the price from AliExpress. Redmi K70 Pro!
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- Anonymous
- gXJ
- 23 Jan 2024
The 8MP ultrawide has been used on EVERY SINGLE MIDRANGE BBK PHONE besides the iQOO Neo 9 Pro and it's high time it toddled off with itself.
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- Artem S. Tashkinov
- pXm
- 23 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2024That's weird, I had 2 oneplus devices and almost no bu... moreiPhone has always striven to be a luxury device. Why would I compare OnePlus to it when its first phone cost just 250 euros? And now the comparable device costs ... 1100 euros? A nice upgrade over the 10 years period.
No amount of inflation can jack up 250 to 1100, sorry. Only greed and "we are no longer a second fiddle, we wanna look like we are among the best".
Too bad Vivo X100 Pro runs circles around OP12 in terms of camera quality.
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- Anonymous
- rKm
- 23 Jan 2024
Artem S. Tashkinov, 23 Jan 2024OnePlus can go f*** themselves with these new prices. They ... moreThat's weird, I had 2 oneplus devices and almost no bugs found. Well talking about price then no flagship today is affordable so when you complain, complain about all phones, iPhone including, which is most overpriced out there
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- Hiten
- sUU
- 23 Jan 2024
they should remove 12gb 256gb option in 12r. Little over price as per the two rubbish 8mp and 2mp camera.
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- idkBg091
- a4R
- 23 Jan 2024
idkBg091, 23 Jan 2024Yeah OnePlus camera optimization isn't really that Gre... moreThings that should had have been/be improved
- front+main cam HDR
-Front+main cam video stabilisazion
-Front cam 4K is looking kind of off(fake 4k?)
Real time selfie camera before shooting should look better(post processing is ok but come on let's me see myself better it's kind of disturbing)
Thats what I've noticed for now.. I'll wait a couple of months to let OnePlus redeem themselves with upcoming updates like many brands ig..
Other then that it's a great phone
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- Anonymous
- 03w
- 23 Jan 2024
what a waste of time! flagship killer my A$$. 700€ ? actual flagships like s23 cost almost less. sure it might be slightly cheaper than iphone 15 or s24 but the price is still too high. conclusion= wait until 12r costs under 500€
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- idkBg091
- a4R
- 23 Jan 2024
Yeah OnePlus camera optimization isn't really that Great they are relying to hardware side rather then the optimization ..
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- Aierlan
- gQC
- 23 Jan 2024
jiyen235, 23 Jan 2024the Oneplus 12 is bloody expensive!It's basically priced as expected and not much different than last year in Europe at least. Last year the Oneplus 11 was just around €30 cheaper for the 12gb 256gb variant
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- Anonymous
- gvq
- 23 Jan 2024
12R similar specs to k70 but almost double the price
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- Artem S. Tashkinov
- pXm
- 23 Jan 2024
OnePlus can go f*** themselves with these new prices. They have totally settled.
The problem is the quality of their UI/ROM and update schedule are horrible, so people are advised to buy anything but OnePlus.
And they almost never fix any bugs. I posted almost three dozen a year ago. Only two of them have been fixed.