Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6 and Galaxy Z Flip6's 3C certifications reveal no charging speed upgrades

27 March 2024
The Flip6 is rumored to pack a larger battery, though.

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its a smurf, 28 Mar 2024The "my phone gets charged too fast so it doesnt have ... more"Ohh here's a point though..faster charging times should be included preciesely for cases when you need to charge in a hurry..maybe a manually acitavated burst mode that can only be activated between 0-50% or something like that?"

I mean you can already kind of do that, newer Honor phones only use maximum fast charge if you long press on the charging animation after you've plugged in the charger. While other phones just let you turn itt off completely, or have it stopped/slow down drastically after the battery hits 80%.

"That's from 2020 if im not mistaken. If you've had it since then and the battery life is still decent then I see your point."

It is, and yes I bought it not long after it came out.

"But invidual use cases vary. I could start asking you question such as "are you a poweruser" "do you mainly use it" "how many hrs per day soc ect ect""

I agree, and even my use cases vary between different days, sometimes my SoT os only 3 hours, other times it's 8 hours (Specific to my Infinix Zero 30), but one thing is for sure, I don't game on my phones at all, but I do use the camera a lot. Also 8 hours was never possible on the iQOO, on heavier days I had 5-6 hours of SoT on that phone.

    DarlingYext, 28 Mar 2024"Lets say that is the case, why doesnt samsung apple s... moreThe "my phone gets charged too fast so it doesnt have enough time to get hot" is both hillarious but also probably true.

    Thats true the note 7 did indeed tend to blow up for the reason you specified. Maybe they lost their confidence in advancing when it comes to charging and batteries in general was what i was trying to convey but it prbably doesnt coorelate.

    That's from 2020 if im not mistaken. If you've had it since then and the battery life is still decent then I see your point.
    But invidual use cases vary. I could start asking you question such as "are you a poweruser" "do you mainly use it" "how many hrs per day soc ect ect" but really the only way i could have an accurate comparison is if I use the same phone over long periods of time and charge one with "traditional speeds" while the other on the theoretical max.

    Maybe the difference is minimal but if it's even a little bit significant i'd personally stick to the slower charging and only use the fast one when in a hurry

    Ohh here's a point though..faster charging times should be included preciesely for cases when you need to charge in a hurry..maybe a manually acitavated burst mode that can only be activated between 0-50% or something like that?

    Sorry off topic

    I guess my prejudice for ultra super duper fast charging comes from the oneplus 8T i used to own, whose battery deteiored over like a month after i started using its max wattage (65W) to the point it became almost unusable.

      its a smurf, 28 Mar 2024Its honestly hard for me to believe that. If they (whatever... more"Lets say that is the case, why doesnt samsung apple sony and google not increase their wattages? Is samsung still scared about what happened with the note 7? If so what about the rest?"

      I've already explained why, and it has nothing to do with the Note 7, which was a phone that had a tendency to blew up, but not because of fast charging, simply because of the lack of space in the phone, and incorrect battery sizes supplied to Samsung.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/business/samsung-galaxy-note-7-battery-fires-report.html

      They don't increase their charging speeds because they don't have to, most people already believe that slower charging is better for the battery's health, so them suddenly increasing their speeds would just make them look bad, and cost a lot of money too.

      "Its honestly hard for me to believe that. If they (whatever phone brand you have idk xD) managed to make a phone that is able to charge at 15 mins to full while not generating excess heat and thus not degrading the battery kudos to them."

      It's a vivo iQOO 5 Pro, one of the first phones to go above 100W charging, along with the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra, both with 120W charging. The thing is, it's so fast that by the time it could generate TOO MUCH heat, it's already fully charged, same goes for my other phone, the Infinix Zero Ultra with it's 180W charging. Anyways, I mentioned "too much heat", because it does generate heat obviously, just not too much that would hurt it. There are also plenty of safety protocols built into both their chargers and their phones themselves, to make sure it always charges fast, but not so fast that it would generate too much heat, which is why the advertised 15 minutes by iQOO is sometimes more like 12 minutes, sometimes 17-18 minutes, it depends on it's surroundings too.

      https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10372&idPhone2=10361

        DarlingYext, 28 Mar 2024Of course it's not charging with 120W constantly, but ... moreIts honestly hard for me to believe that. If they (whatever phone brand you have idk xD) managed to make a phone that is able to charge at 15 mins to full while not generating excess heat and thus not degrading the battery kudos to them.
        Lets say that is the case, why doesnt samsung apple sony and google not increase their wattages? Is samsung still scared about what happened with the note 7? If so what about the rest?


        No matter how you slice it if a battery of lets say 500 mah is charged in 15-20 mins it degrades much faster. Batteries dont like to charge and discharge fast about as much as they don't like being full or empty.

        So my only assumption is that those companies sell products with the assumption that the user will keep their phone for years to come while other brands you tend to switch phones at 3 years max.
        Either that or those other companies have much better quality batteries for some reason.

          its a smurf, 28 Mar 2024I wouldn't use 120W charging even if my phone had it. ... moreOf course it's not charging with 120W constantly, but it did always charge up my phone in 15 minutes, or less, didn't harm it at all.

            Anonymous, 27 Mar 2024The decision to stick with 25W charging makes zero sense si... moreProducts with a higher price tag offering less is a ocmmon practce in the phone industry (cough cough apple) especially in an "enthusiast" series such as the z.

              DarlingYext, 27 Mar 2024"120Watt? Rip battery" I've used a phone ... moreI wouldn't use 120W charging even if my phone had it. Why would i strain a battery when i can just wait 20 more minutes. The only reason 120W isn't as harmful as it would actually be is beacause its not actually 120 Watt charging. It probably drops off by a high margin at some point. We do see that with the diminishing results in charge time vs wattage. Anythintg abobve 60W is overkill imo.

                Darth Caesium, 27 Mar 202424GB is more of a proof of "oh, we can do it". Th... moreEh maybe..I dont see it happening but who knows. Do you think a 2tb model would sell well? Especially given it's price

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                  The decision to stick with 25W charging makes zero sense since the much cheaper Galaxy M55 is rumoured to get 45W charging.

                    Not Again, 27 Mar 2024I never charge overnight, and always charge up to 100%, not... more"Your fabricated nonsense makes me wonder if you actually it you received any tuition in any recognised education establishment."

                    Interesting, but this sentence makes me wonder about the exact same thing. "..wonder if you actually it you.." 🤣🤣

                    "Provide your evidence PLEASE"

                    About what? Fast charging vs slow charging? If it's about that, then nope, I won't, not sure why I would even have to. You called me out, and you keep doing it, so you go ahead and prove me wrong.

                    "***Before you start name calling why don't you put up or shut up! EVIDENCE"

                    Rule 2

                    "Evidence not something you write yourself it is getting tedious you again are just typing nonsense on this of all sites"

                    You keep talking about evidence and proof, like who are you here? Me, and the rest of us here are just commenters sharing our experiences, and trying to have civil conversations, we aren't here to prove anything. You are just here to end any and all conversations with your constant spamming (Rule 5) about your hatred towards me, that you are now scared to do so on your registered (@I Just Read ) account, because you know very well that your comments are getting removed. What a joke you are.

                      Not Again, 27 Mar 2024I never charge overnight, and always charge up to 100%, not... more"Just because you don't YOU ARE ONE IGNORANT PERSON, that doesn't prevent knowledgeable others from doing so."

                      So I'm ignorant because my experience is different than yours is? That is some fine reasoning you've got their, but thank you for your information, I'm still never going to charge any of my phones overnight ever again.

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                        DarlingYext, 27 Mar 2024"120Watt? Rip battery" I've used a phone ... moreI never charge overnight, and always charge up to 100%, not necessarily from 0% (Answer, 1) but nonetheless I always go to max percentage.
                        Just because you don't YOU ARE ONE IGNORANT PERSON, that doesn't prevent knowledgeable others from doing so.

                        Answer 1) FYI there are few reasons why someone cannot charge or lets the phone run down to zero, many like myself have multiple chargers and cables. The students I come into contact with will be topping up their phone at the same time as using laptop. piggy back or direct. Even our public transport has USB charging


                        Samsung and Apple are too lazy to upgrade their charging technologies, so they want people to believe that it's because anything above 45W would be too dangerous, and unfortunatelly it's working.***

                        ***Before you start name calling why don't you put up or shut up! EVIDENCE
                        Evidence not something you write yourself it is getting tedious you again are just typing nonsense on this of all sites

                        Given that you are unable to post anything that is correct day in, day out on this site, you are the last person to criticize. I mean nobody asked you to continuously provide wrong answers but here you are again.

                        I know you hate Accuracy. So say someone let the phone totally discharge (the below is on the specification page (NOT 45W

                        25W wired, 50% in 30 min (advertised) Samsung Z5
                        Wired, PD2.0, 50% in 30 min (advertised) iPhone 15 Pro max

                        That you cannot post anything on this encyclopaedic site is a reflection on you. Your fabricated nonsense makes me wonder if you actually it you received any tuition in any recognised education establishment.

                        Provide your evidence PLEASE

                          Anonymous, 27 Mar 2024Ultra best selling, just like Samsung has always been. Y... more"You know the quality of chinese phone is questionable.."

                          No, but I do know the exact opposite of that.

                            its a smurf, 27 Mar 2024WTH you gonna do with 24 gb of ram on phablet mate? If it ... more"120Watt? Rip battery"

                            I've used a phone with 120W charging, there is nothing wrong with it's battery, and said phone is 3,5 years old.

                            Samsung and Apple are too lazy to upgrade their charging technologies, so they want people to believe that it's because anything above 45W would be too dangerous, and unfortunatelly it's working.

                              Darth Caesium, 27 Mar 2024Also, if their A55 has a 12GB RAM option, why is the S24 st... moreYep. S24 is pretty much a midrange phone with a flagship price, similar to Apple devices. Only the Plus and Ultra could be considered proper flagships.

                                Azu10157, 27 Mar 2024Fair enough. Samsung offered 16GB RAM with the S21U before,... moreAlso, if their A55 has a 12GB RAM option, why is the S24 stuck at 8GB and the S24+ and S24 Ultra have 12GB? Samsung should honestly give their flagships 16GB to differentiate, especially since flagships are supposed to have little to no compromises depending on the price bracket, and all I can see with Samsung is far too many compromises.

                                  Darth Caesium, 27 Mar 2024Sure, but in certain gaming scenarios, 16GB makes more sens... moreFair enough. Samsung offered 16GB RAM with the S21U before, so I don't know why they don't offer it on their most expensive phone. Feels as though they're going backwards

                                    Azu10157, 27 Mar 2024Too much work for Samsung mate. 12GB RAM is perfectly fine.... moreSure, but in certain gaming scenarios, 16GB makes more sense, and why shouldn't a £1,700 phone have that?

                                      its a smurf, 27 Mar 2024WTH you gonna do with 24 gb of ram on phablet mate? If it ... more24GB is more of a proof of "oh, we can do it". The idea I had was that it would be offered with 2TB of storage, maybe even as a limited edition product with a partnership with that fashion brand that Samsung loves to do every year.

                                        its a smurf, 27 Mar 2024WTH you gonna do with 24 gb of ram on phablet mate? If it ... moreIt would only double the price if greedy Samsung had to have its ridiculously high margins. As it stands, Samsung also has structural issues within their different divisions that prevent Samsung-made components from being cost-effective for Samsung devices. For example, Samsung's memory division is treated as a separate company to their display division, and both divisions actually charge the part of Samsung that makes phones to use their parts. This is not cost-effective at all, and so in order to have high margins, something they need to do is make intentionally worse products than many other manufacturers. Of course, this stagnation isn't just a structural issue, but also a complacency one, but regardless of that, structural problems are a huge reason for this.

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