AnTuTu's March charts show Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 beating the Dimensity 9300

02 April 2024
In the mid-range chart, the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 3 is king.

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  • Anonymous
  • 3Yb
  • 08 Apr 2024

Most of scores are fake

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    • Anonymous
    • YYX
    • 03 Apr 2024

    Who cares!? I only cared enough to submit my opinion.

      Cpt.Power, 02 Apr 2024Paper numbers are interesting only in paper. Run Diablo I... moreI agree, but your conclusion is wrong.
      - iOS is more efficient software than Android, it's the classic tale of low-level coding versus high-level software. Now I don't mean Binary, like the way the Retro Consoles were coded, but native in the way of directly interacting with the API/Kernel/Drivers. Or in this case, Apple has become a lot more modern with their updated Swift Language and Robust SDK, producing a "semi native" code for most Apps. Meanwhile, Android is not native, but does have certain instruction sets or support for C++, this help speed up Game Engine for Apps and whatnot, but you still have to put up with Java or whatever else the rest of the code has.

      - iOS Apps produce more money. Android Apps don't produce as much. That means developers will spend more time optimising their Apps. In some situations, they won't even publish them on Android. This could be for business reasons, or it could be for contractual obligations, or even personal preference. So iOS does get exclusive Apps that Android misses out on. Android only gets exclusive Apps if it's something in a legal grey area, or it has ability to do so (Apple locks certain features away from even developers), or it could be that the Android Device has a specific hardware necessitating that exclusive App (eg Thermal Camera, or Projector, or whatnot).

      - Big chipsets. One of the silent reasons that Apple leads the industry is because they typically had much larger cache built into their SoCs. That basically helps lower latencies, increase bandwidth, and allow the drivers to take advantage of faster operations. But why do they do this, when others don't. It's about cost. Apple's chipsets usually cost much more money to stamp out than say Qualcomm's, but then again they don't have a middleman so there's lots of cost savings there. It's why an Exynos chipset costs far less to manufacture for Samsung, than to buy a competitor's chip instead.

      - Custom hardware. Back when Android devices were fiddling around with the Cortex-A75 in the QSD 845, they were far behind the Apple A11-Bionic. Think iPhone 8+ versus Samsung S9+. They've had a decent 2-generational lead over the industry for a long time.

      = So that's how things are. Or were.
      Apple had a big performance AND battery life advantage over UniSoc Tiger, RockChip K, MediaTek Helio, Hisilicon Kirin, Samsung Exynos, and lastly Qualcomm Snapdragon. And things got even WORSE for tablets, as the likes of the A9X to the A12X meant a straight victory against all Android Tablets. Maybe Intel could give them "some" trouble but that would come at a ridiculous battery life (eg 2 hours versus 16 hours). Besides it would have to use Windows (or Linux) and it's not able to go against the fluidity of iOS.

      So what's changed?
      + Firstly Apple did, they seem to have lost some of their talent. The iPhone 13 series (A16) was a letdown because it didn't provide much of a performance uplift, and all of that came at the expense of efficiency that was hard fought on the A15 chipset (which was a good but not great upgrade over the A14). Well the following year, Apple repeated the same thing, giving up more efficiency from the A16 for more performance on the A17. Basically they've been stagnant for almost 3-Years now.

      + Secondly, Apple has lost their (roughly) 6-12 month lithography lead as well. They are using "immature" 3nm lithography from TSMC at a STEEP discount. In some cases, the latest TSMC +4nm node is actually better.

      + The competition has changed. Samsung has decided to ramp down, but still a decent second-tier contender. Hisilicon has dropped out. The cheap competitors have massively gotten better. And MediaTek has ditched their slow Helio lineup for a more apt Dimensity lineup. Qualcomm has been par for the course, and Apple's recent stagnation has allowed them to nearly catch up. The best of Android is now 0.5 year behind Apple, rather than 2.0 years generationally speaking.

      As for tablets, well we finally have AMD in the midst with their fantastic AMD r7-4900u, 6600u, 6800u, 7470u, and 8840u. Intel is also getting better (Arc) but far ways off. Qualcomm has gotten much better with their QC 8cx2 chipset for tablets. These were and are somewhat decent competition for the Base M1 chipset. But Apple has far newer, and more powerful variants. Still. Now Qualcomm's even better with their upcoming Oryon-based chipsets, which should give good competitive for the Base M3 or M2-Pro, and (if lucky) M1-Max chipsets.

      == Double Conclusion?
      Get all the best phones. Charge them to full. Run a certain heavy demanding App. Drain the battery to empty. Compare the battery life between them. Compare the performance between them. That will tell you who is best. At least in real-world or practical case, to determine Overall Efficiency.

      If you ran that test back in Late 2018, Apple would've had a landmark victory. And they would've maintained a big lead it until Late 2022 (QC 8g1+). Then most of the competition would've basically caught up by Early 2024 (QC 8g3). But Apple still has the edge, especially with the points I raised earliest.

        Gaia, 02 Apr 2024That's why there is 3DMark. You can run the stress tes... moreWell the stress test llast only few minutes not from full to fat battery. Gaming anything above is something else.

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          • 02 Apr 2024

          Cpt.Power, 02 Apr 2024Paper numbers are interesting only in paper. Run Diablo I... moreThat's why there is 3DMark. You can run the stress test a few times to measure how the device behaves with heavy gaming. AnTuTu is mostly made to measure the device in general, instead of measuring how it behaves during gaming.

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            • cyber
            • S2D
            • 02 Apr 2024

            ten of ten all were chinese phones-now give me a break,all of them are lying

              The data bars in the top graph are misleading. There is only a 6% difference between the 8G3 and the 9300. This means overall, their performance is pretty much equivalent. It would be much more interesting to compare battery life, or more specific stuff like emulation performance.

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                • Anonymous
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                • 02 Apr 2024

                2141448−2138119=3329
                Stop with these clickbait articles.
                It literally beat it by merely 3329 points which is less than %0.16 better.
                Which is far within margin of error.
                Also stop censoring the comments, it's not a good look.

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                  • txE
                  • 02 Apr 2024

                  AnonymousCRL, 02 Apr 2024Qualcomm's new naming scheme sucks. It's confusing.Both are mess when it comes to naming, similar to Intel. I'm gonna break it down since I'm bored.

                  Let's start with MediaTek. Judging with the processors that are still being released, here are the entire lineup.

                  Entry-Level: G36 (not even an improvement over G35, which is a rebadged P35, why this thing existed)

                  Above Entry-Level: G85, G88, G91 (all of then are mostly same eMMC things performance wide, which is a slight improvement over G80 from 2020. The only difference is on ISP)

                  4G Midrange: G99* (a slight improvement over G96 from 2021, still a nice chipset though)

                  5G Midrange (6 series): 6080 (rebadged 810 from 2021), 6100+ (same things) (both are just 5G version of G99)

                  Upper Midrange (7 series): 7050 (rebadged 1080 from 2022), 7200

                  High End (8 Series): 8300*

                  Flagship (9 Series): 9300

                  * without counting the vendor-specific counterpart, like the one with "Ultra" and "Ultimate" naming.

                  Now, let's go with Snapdragon

                  Midrange (4 Series): 4 Gen 2**

                  Another Midrange (6 Series): 680, 685 (both are 4G chipsets which isn't faster than 5G 4 Gen 2. Why don't the just put those 4G chipsets under 4 Series naming), 6 Gen 1**

                  **these chipsets are produced by Samsung unlike their predecessor which produced by TSMC. Probably to cut costs?

                  Higher Midrange (7 Series - the most Messy lineup):
                  - 7 Gen 1
                  - 782G (yes, technically 782G is newer 7 Gen 1 judging from it's release date. Better performance, but bigger fabrication than 7 Gen 1)
                  - 7s Gen 2
                  - 7+ Gen 2 (nope, technically it's not an improved version of another 7 Series. This is just a downclocked 8+ Gen 1)
                  - 7 Gen 3
                  - 7+ Gen 3 (this time downclocked upcoming 8s Gen 3)

                  Flagship (8 Series): 8s Gen 3, 8 Gen 3

                  (Looks like s means "slower" in Qualcomm naming lmao)

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                    • 02 Apr 2024

                    Anonymous, 02 Apr 2024The average of the six 8G3 is about 2082700. The average... moreAdd S24U with only 1.7 million, the score will plummeted down

                      D9300 is ever so slightly faster than 8G3. MediaTek created a monster. Props to them. 7+ Gen 3 is ideal chipset for flagship killers and flagships alike!

                        Paper numbers are interesting only in paper.
                        Run Diablo Immortal, Forza Motosport or Genshin Impact on SD 8 gen 3, Dimensity D9300 or latest Apple chip for 12-24 hours in a row or untill phone battery depletes and lets seee the results.
                        Dimensity here will be a very easy winner and Apple will be a very easy looser.
                        Companies which not makes gaming phones or phones dedicated for gaming will be always last.

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                          • 02 Apr 2024

                          I don't trust this benchmark software.

                            Anonymous, 02 Apr 2024Then go buy snapdagon sd652, or sd888 .. no difference in r... moreDid you really read my comment? Looks like no.

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 02 Apr 2024

                              2141448−2138119=3329
                              Stop with these clickbait articles.
                              It literally beat it by merely 3329 points which is less than %0.16 better.
                              Which is far within margin of error.

                                MediaTek putting real pressure on Qualcomm in every segment.. nice 👍 best thing that can happen for consumers 👌
                                Hope this doesn't end in a duopoly though..

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 02 Apr 2024

                                  The average of the six 8G3 is about 2082700.

                                  The average of the four Mediatek is nearly 2086500.

                                  It seems, on average, Dimensity performs better than normally reported

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • 3xs
                                    • 02 Apr 2024

                                    KondriX, 02 Apr 2024Really, who cares? Unless you're a kid and want to bra... moreThen go buy snapdagon sd652, or sd888 .. no difference in real life

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                                      • 02 Apr 2024

                                      What we got these days...Measuring performance of phones via a stupid app and not proper tests like gaming

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 02 Apr 2024

                                        phooone, 02 Apr 20247 plus gen 3 should be called 8 gen 3 litethere's already 8s gen 3 with close enough specification

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