The Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 to have impressive GPU performance

12 May 2024
The first phones with the said SoC will come out sooner than expected.

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Anonymous, 09 Jun 2024Snapdragon 865 was good for its time but is showing it'... moreAs someone who's using a phone with the SD 870 (essentially an SD 865++), I'm impressed that its performance is still so competitive, but yeah, it's reaching the end of its usability.

Even midrange chips are up there with it, and some are even faster.

It's sad, because it was one of the last prime Qualcomm chips, but we need to move on.

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      Pls, 13 May 2024Efficiency is always a focus, 865 is way lower efficiency t... moreSnapdragon 865 was good for its time but is showing it's age now. Snapdragon 8+gen1 has slightly better efficiency then the snapdragon 8 gen 2 improves on that. It would seem good optimisation is needed for snapdragon 8 gen3. Early devices showed worse efficiency than gen 2 but some devices with decent cooling showed promising performance equal to gen 2 in efficiency albeit running a little warmer. Personally I'd say the snapdragon 8 gen 2 is the best chipset since snapdragon 865..the snapdragon non plus 8gen1 and snapdragon 888 were built on Samsungs process which also dishes out rubbish exynos chips so their poor efficiency made the snapdragon 865 a great choice but it can't compete with newer tsmc made snapdragons.

        Pls, 13 May 2024Efficiency is always a focus, 865 is way lower efficiency t... moreWhat do you mean 865 is high on battery consumption that 8s3?

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          Remembering year 2010 _ 14 years ago when iphone4 was said marginally surpass playstation 2 graphic gaming power . Yes the Ps2 , 6th gen gaming console which 10 years before iphone 4 released . Console fan trolled mobile innovation was 10 years late to cath up .
          gsmarena become war field toxic flame comment between both fanboy .
          There is a war between console and mobile community .
          Another argument at that time :
          console gpu vs .mobile gpu
          android vs . ios
          apple vs. samsung
          Sony vs. apple [ premium brand war ]

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            Hemedans, 14 May 2024No there is more, only 2 used in switch but there are more ... moreYes, i mean only for the switch, shield tv is used as a reference.

              Yes, 13 May 2024So many things wrong in your comment it got me confused. ... moreNo there is more, only 2 used in switch but there are more like one used in Jetson Nano.

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                Hemedans, 13 May 2024I never said there are 3 Tegra for switch, re read my comme... moreSo many things wrong in your comment it got me confused.

                So there are only 2 types of tegra x1.

                1 - used in 2015 shield tv and switch v1
                2 - used in 2019 shield tv and switch v2/lite/oled

                  Pls, 13 May 2024Your comment had two wrong things 1 - there are three te... moreI never said there are 3 Tegra for switch, re read my comment, I said there are 3 versions of X1 and Two of them are used in switch, I may be wrong on logan but that's what I meant.

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                    Hemedans, 13 May 2024My comment didn't imply either, maybe you miss read my... moreTo add to avoid confusion, v1 switch and 2015 shield tv use same tegra x1, erista.

                    V2 switch/lite/oled and shield tv 2019 use tegra x1 mariko.

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                      Hemedans, 13 May 2024My comment didn't imply either, maybe you miss read my... moreYour comment had two wrong things

                      1 - there are three tegra x1 chips for the switch.
                      Wrong, only 2 v1 - erista , v2 - mariko

                      2- logan is first tegra x1.

                      Wrong its codename of tegra k1, lookup announcment on anandtech.

                        Pls read, 13 May 2024Read properly, v1 and v2 switch use erista and mariko. Nob... moreMy comment didn't imply either, maybe you miss read my comment, I just mentioned there are different variant of that soc, first one, 2nd one used in first switch and 3rd one used in 2nd switch that's it.

                          Anonymous, 13 May 2024You and other need to stop guessing price of SoC based on r... more1. Both 8s and 8 gen 3 aren't fabbed in latest node

                          2. Both 8s and 8+ gen 1 use Tsmc 4nm, 8+ gen 1 also use this node.

                          3. Die size of soc highly determine price of soc, the bigger the die the fewer unit you get from wafer, the higher the price. it's not space magic it's just small fact you fail to agree,

                          -8s gen 3 is 8.4mm x 10.66 which is roughly 89MM^2
                          -8+ gen 1 was 99MM^2
                          -8 gen 3 is 10.71mm x 12.81mm = ~137MM^2

                          With comparable wafer price you can see there which soc Qualcomm get more.

                          Also 8s and all previous top midrange/Highend soc lack premium features from flagship,

                          -8+ gen 1 has LTE cat 24 while 8s has LTE Cat 22,
                          -8+ has 10gigabit 5G modem 8s has 6.5gigabit one
                          -8+ has slow motion 4K 120fps while 8s limit at 1080p etc.

                          As you can see 8s lack many features available in 8+ gen 1 while being smaller than it, so it's educated guess that it's cheaper too, and no Oem will take $200 soc and make $270 phone thats don't make sense at all, there would be plenty of sd 8 gen 3 phone by now, the fact even Chinese flagship are expensive this year shows that.

                          8s gen 3 phones are priced same as 7+ gen 2. last year, both Xiaomi and Realme who had 7+ phone already anounced their successor and no much price difference, and we know how 8+ gen 1 was positioned against 7+ gen 2

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                            YUKI93, 13 May 2024I can easily say we have reached the point where SoC manufa... moreEfficiency is always a focus, 865 is way lower efficiency than 8g3. To see it in battery life you would need to underclock them.

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                              Hemedans, 13 May 2024Plenty of reputable people confirmed this, from Switch hack... moreRead properly, v1 and v2 switch use erista and mariko.
                              Nobody but digital foundry has said v1 switch uses logan, they are just some ordinary people testing games.

                                I can easily say we have reached the point where SoC manufacturer needs to focus more on battery efficiency instead of more performance. Even to most average consumers, Snapdragon 865/865+/870 is still plenty powerful today.

                                  No, 13 May 2024Digital foundry is wrong, there are only 2 tegra x1, switch... morePlenty of reputable people confirmed this, from Switch hacking communities and reputable youtubers, just recent phawx also posted this, you need solid evidence to convince me otherwise.

                                    Android needs to work together to improve performance for productivity. Samsung and many other android phones has 4k way before an iPhone even knew what it was. They also way better sensor tech and many other great features. But the ecosystem has to work together to smoothen and atreamline things better. Android can easily replace the majority of laptops and many other devices. But, its slowed down for no explainable reasons. This doesn't suggest that Apple hasn't slowed down.

                                    I also suspect that these unnecessary trade sanctions are a huge contributing factor in many ways. That and tech thought paralysis. That's why smartphones haven't replaced ILCs yet.

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                                      Hemedans, 13 May 2024Because it use newer soc. -first Tegra X1 aka Logan -se... moreDigital foundry is wrong, there are only 2 tegra x1, switch v1 tegra x1 and original shield tv tegra x1 are the same erista. Logan is tegra k1.

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                                        MindTheGap, 13 May 2024What's up with those people who says that Star Rail is... moreStar rails heaviest area is more demanding than genshins heaviest area, both games at max settings. Geekerwan has tested this on multiple phones. Go look.

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