Microsoft unveils $1,000 Surface Laptop with Snapdragon X chip, Copilot+

22 May 2024
The laptops come in 13.8" and 15" sizes and are powered by either the Snapdragon X Plus or X Elite, Qualcomm's new AI-focused Windows-on-ARM chipsets.

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  • 22 Jun 2024

As expected efficiency is worse than Apple, the GPU is worse than Intel or AMD and it gets penalized when running x86 software.

ATM it's just an overpriced, soldered RAM piece of e-waste.

You can buy laptops with Ryzen 7 8845HS and 32GB of RAM for 700 euro....

    Tracking is a bit of a pickle BUT, no biggie.

    Windows beeing what it is today, we can disable (or completly remove) so many features using third party tweakers from shady - more or less - developers.

    See bloatware solutions all over internet for example.

      Anonymous, 02 Jun 2024I may misunderstood your statement but I assure you disabli... moreI guess it's time for me to install a tweaker. I'll tolerate some level of data collection and telemetry, but taking screenshots of your credit card number goes way too far, even farther than TikTok.

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        • 02 Jun 2024

        SuperSpruce, 01 Jun 2024Most of my settings have been left alone, but this is so mu... moreI may misunderstood your statement but I assure you disabling services won't give any privacy issue.

        Also tweakers are open source widely stared on GitHub. And you can still do it by hand if you really paranoid.

        Also I removed those telemetry in scheduler by hand tool so easy. I also add firewall rules for Shaddy stuff like one-click office.

        In Apple macos and iOS it's all hard-coded. Any one-click on store send 100jb of JSON private data. And that whatever telemetry you disabled.

        But people are people, seems people, and like you buying expensive closed 'licked down' apple stuff. I respect that, just not my thing, and will never be. I buy sometimes renewed apple stuff just to see, and have always that same feeling again and again. Being a real ( i mean, not a python-php and all kind of scripters hihi) dev for too many years.

          Anonymous, 01 Jun 2024I don't have this problem : Block updates, disable ser... moreMost of my settings have been left alone, but this is so much worse for privacy than anything we've seen from Windows, MacOS, iOS, or any of the Android skins out there that I won't want to take a chance on it.

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            • 01 Jun 2024

            SuperSpruce, 31 May 2024Knowing Microsoft, they'll sneakily turn it back on ag... moreI don't have this problem : Block updates, disable service, use one of the so many win tweakers, tweak registery , use third party uninstaller and so on. They'd try from time to time to push stuff but they let it easy to work around.

            Using macos or win is like being locked down in prison of being free to me. The only advantage of having apple is they give competition for their procs. Thanks people buying expensive walled garden Apple's laptops so i can have a great one for a reasonable price a bit later on.

              Anonymous, 31 May 2024Just disable it then. It's not like those mac stuff... moreKnowing Microsoft, they'll sneakily turn it back on again after an update...

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                • 31 May 2024

                SuperSpruce, 26 May 2024I'm excited to see third party AI features using the N... moreJust disable it then.

                It's not like those mac stuff where you're in prison walled garden and everything is proprietary hard coded, win is fairly easy to tweak very deeply, even open to Linux among other things. Not perfect and philanthropic I don't stay that, but more than good enough.

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                  • 31 May 2024

                  Anonymous, 26 May 2024The TDP says NOTHING without knowing about GPU performance,... moreIf the apple users get nervous and talking nonsense , it's a good sign.

                  I suppose then it's a very good laptop and a lot more open and at a cheaper price ( even with cheap 64gb offer, hey Mac users..).

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                    • 26 May 2024

                    Anonymous, 23 May 2024"It'll be interesting to see the new MacBook Air ... moreAlso, your information is wrong. It can run from 25 to 80 Watts, most devices will run at 45 Watt (when the Performance profile is selected), fanless devices use 12 Watts, so even less than the M-chips.

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                      • 26 May 2024

                      Anonymous, 23 May 2024"It'll be interesting to see the new MacBook Air ... moreThe TDP says NOTHING without knowing about GPU performance, which as far as I know is supposed to be much higher than that of the M3/ M4.

                        I'm excited to see third party AI features using the NPU, but I dread the Recall "feature" and other stuff built into the OS itself, which are totally unnecessary and privacy invasive.

                          sakafuka, 23 May 202440fps on most of the games ? U can get laptop for 900$ with... moreX86-64 games through translation layer eoth NO updates from the vendor.

                          Some work by vendor will significantly improve fps rates and a full arm rewrite should yield even better results.

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                            • 25 May 2024

                            If copilot takes up 4gigs of ram, just by running in the background, these machines should start at 32gb ram. THey’re not much different from apple with their picing lol.

                              sakafuka, 23 May 202440fps on most of the games ? U can get laptop for 900$ with... moreThen maybe you ain't their target market. MBA can barely run games yet they're still selling like hot cakes.

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                                mariubrlu, 24 May 2024Does it run Linux?i want to know this also. i did a web search and got nothing. i think it's too soon for people to get one and try installing it. ms will not say so as it will mean only hardware sales which they can't then spy on.

                                  Anonymous, 22 May 2024Arm is in the building and its here to stay. So incredible ... morePsst.

                                  Remember that movie Hackers with Angelina Jokie?

                                  Penthouse scene when she shows hacker Ctash her laptop

                                  It was running ARM chip in mid 80's
                                  "Risc, yeah Risc is Gooood'
                                  Risc is the metal architecture of Arm while CISC is x86/64.

                                    pl2rts, 22 May 2024Insane prices for just a bit more storage and it gets worse... moreYeah that isn't cool but they ARE targeting Apple MBA users to jump ship.

                                    You haven't seen RAM & storage pricing on Apple's site I guess you'd have a stroke if you did lol

                                      Does it run Linux?

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                                        • 24 May 2024

                                        Windows with ads.

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