Xiaomi 15 Ultra details leak, battery size won't impress

03 December 2024
The cameras just take too much space.

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S I R E, 4 hours agoWhere did I ever say it should be a certain way. Everywhere... more*popcorn*

    jiyen235, 23 minutes agoif you think 2x and 4.3x are the same then brother you need... moreYou read purpose and specific focal length interchangeably now? 🆒 👍

      NFB-FB, 03 Dec 2024Ugly lens distribution !!! 😭😭😭the cameras better be worth it 😭😭

        S I R E, 2 hours agoInatead of multiple sensors for the same purpose. But ok... moreif you think 2x and 4.3x are the same then brother you need to get your eyes checked

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          guys grow up and stop attacking each other. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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            notafanboy, 03 Dec 2024Haven't seen a comment get 10 ❌s in a while. Congratul... moreup to 19 now

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              S I R E, 03 Dec 2024What is the obsession with telephoto on a phone? Just 1 gre... morethe most unpopular opinion i've ever seen on this site

                jiyen235, 4 hours ago" If anything they should just make official cases for... moreInatead of multiple sensors for the same purpose.

                But okay, this one here. Not what I meant though, context is important.

                  S I R E, 4 hours agoWhere did I ever say it should be a certain way. Everywhere... more" If anything they should just make official cases for the phone that take different lenses like moments did"

                  You said it, not me. Don't act like you didn't say stuff like this.

                  You seem to either be completely delusional, narcissistic or a a lil boi, i don't wish to argue further. It'd be a waste of my time because you just want to be a victim so bad.

                    jiyen235, 5 hours agojust because you don't want it doesn't mean other... moreWhere did I ever say it should be a certain way. Everywhere I can't find a single sentence where I'm imposing a "should be" or "you must".

                    Ever since the first comment it's just been personal preference, I just said 1 is enough. Never did I ever say more is objectively just bad and should exist, I even acknowledged that the convenience factor is there and most people prefer it. Why is my opinion or preferrence narcissistic?
                    And where are you pulling out these scenarios where I'm making fun of other people or even this phone?

                    I just raised a question towards a phone going with two seperate telephoto cameras. I am not praising any ine brand, I only ever mentioned Sharp because it has a mosre serious approach to photography, there was another guy who mentioned Find X6 Pro and I accepted that "yeah, good find, there's another good option right there" even mentioned that yes they are perhaps equally good but I *PREFER* the sharper design on Aquos R9 Pro.

                    XZ phones I mention are XZ2 and XZ3 they came with 19MP non-binning sensors. They have a cleaner look to them.

                    You wanna interpret something neutral in a certain way, I can't do anything about it.

                    And isn't it normal that a comment section is a place to share opinions?

                    Calling me out on BS? What BS? I said I like some of them phones with multiple sensors? How is that not clear? I never aaid people ahould stop using these, just that external solutions have objective quality benefits. I never said everyone ahould buy them. I try provinding links to better convey what I mean, mention phones to give a point reference but no I'm narcissistic.

                    I know 8K 60 on its own is nothing, I know how bit rate affects quality, I just used them as examples as to what could be just like the mention of buffer storage for high data rates and more.

                    You say global shutter has disadvantages, well yes, but besides low light performance for ISO range I don't really know any. And before you twist my words again I said I don't know any, not that I will not accept any other disadvantages that other people present.

                    You're calling me straight up delusional for saying 925 was a great shooter. That's not insulting/making fun?

                    Just because you guys want to hate on me for no reason doesn't mean I have to take phantom blame for things I didn't even hint towards, let alone actually doing/saying it.

                    I thought you were genuinely interested in what kind of solution I was talking about so I went into details thinking "hey, here's someone trying to have a banter, why not", my bad bruh. Who knew everyone here is looking to argue for no reason.

                      S I R E, 5 hours agoHow is it impractical? And I already explained my solution,... morejust because you don't want it doesn't mean others don't have use for it. You seem to have a narcissistic way of handling things.

                      Firstly, those lenses you mentioned are external so someone needs to carry it, if i was gonna carry an extra lens anyway i'd have just gotten a Vivo X90 Pro and used a 2-5x telephoto addon. Only an extreme minority wants that on phones, i use a phone because it's compact and i can carry it around easily in my pocket. If I was gonna have to carry stuff anyways im just gonna go buy a Sony a6400. Global shutter has drawbacks and is only needed for someone who wants to shoot fast moving objects, besides, AI has come so far that we can take photos without blur now for the most part so it doesn't even matter much. 8K 60 FPS doesn't matter, what matters is the bitrate and quality of video capture. That is dependent on the manufacturer, the software and most importantly the hardware. Even 1080p videos from APS-C cameras look better than a lot of 4k videos from phones. Burst mode already exists on phones and phones take binned down RAW shots because that's what is intended. You're not supposed to drive a car with your hands on the pedal, you can, but it's not made for that. Quad bayer/binned sensors aren't made to be cropped, they're meant to be binned so whenever you see cropped or full res shots it's artificial and full of artefacts.

                      What is so special about the Find X6 Pro and Sharp R9 Pro's secondary cameras that isn't true for other Ultras? Why is THIS phone's 2x and 4.3x solution bad but the Sharp and Oppo are great? The Oppo Find X6 Pro and Find X7 Ultra have the same main and telephoto sensors, just the UW sensor is smaller but has better processing on the X7 Ultra with less detail and it also has a super telephoto. The Sharp is worse than both with a 1/2.5" sensor. You're making fun of this phone and others but you praise Sharp, but why? The 1/2.5" sensor is the same size as what's on the Xiaomi 14 Ultra, Xiaomi actually has brighter aperture and a wider lens so it's just better overall, so why is Sharp good even? The X100 Ultra and this Xiaomi 15 Ultra have a 1/1.4" 200 MP telephoto/super telephoto sensor. This is far better and larger than the ones you are praising yet THIS is a waste of space?

                      .... The point of Ultras IS the cameras and everyone knows that, there's nothing special about Ultras, apart from that, they can just go buy the IQOO 13 and call it a day if cameras aren't important. I don't understand what you mean here.

                      You prefer your native 23-26mm focal length, you do you. But don't act like the 13 mp phone was better. Only the Nokia phones were better because they weren't pixel binned phones and i actually agree with you ONLY on that, phones should go back to not being pixel binned and having true high res photography, lossless zooming would actually be worth it then. But apart from that, i don't understand how Xperia XZ phones are THAT good to you, they were better than the mainstream stuff but not by much. Was far more worth it to just go for Nokia phones if you were into photography. If you think the Lumia 925 took amazing shots then you're delusional.

                      You think everyone hates you because you're better than them, you're just spouting BS and everyone's calling you out on it ig, i didn't read others' comments but you act immature and like everything should revolve around you. Listen, you love single cam phones? Great, go buy one. Having multiple cams allows different perspectives, having optical zoom is impractical on mobile phones and putting in larger secondary sensors will come at some other cost for example the X200 Ultra might have a smaller main cam due to a 1/1.28" UW, so the main and UW cam are rumored to be the same size.

                      I agree that phones should go back to having proper high res sensors but you also must take into account that these sensors don't just come into existence randomly, a company has to make them and demand must be there or they must invest in that sensor. You missed the big picture completely.

                        jiyen235, 6 hours agowhat's your solution on a phone? moving parts are gonn... moreHow is it impractical? And I already explained my solution, an external case/cover/cage based lense mounting system like Smallrig and Ulanzi have some great quality solutions at great prices.

                        You buy lets say a case which you would change your every time you upgrade a phone anyway but keep the buy once and forget deal on lenses sonce you don't need to upgrade the lenses anymore. And the mounting interface is on the case btw, in case anyone assumes I am suggesting an on the phone mount.

                        These external solutions are better because you are likely to gets plastic optics (not the lens guard you can touch but the internal stack of lenses that focus the image) on the phone, especially when the company is trying to save costs on multiple cameras on a single device. External lenses are larger and can be made with glass for better clarity. Now imagine if the manufacturer only has 1 main camera to worry about, you have already saved at leat 50% of the space previously needed for secondary cameras, not they can use higher quality glass optics for the main sensor. The saved space can go to battery, or a D-RAM chip that many mainstream cameras have as a buffer to store High bandwidth captures, 8K 60FPS for example or a burst mode for uncompressed RAW full sensor resolution photos, maybe even a global shutter sensor on a phone, the possibilities are endless. You could even get space for maybe a CF-Express card on bigger phones with this or just more cooling as goodness knows modern SoCs need it.

                        Now back to cost savings, you are only paying for cases every time you upgrade a device and since the mounting system is the same you only have to buy the lenses once or maybe if you break/lose them.

                        Brands then cannot charge you unreasonable prices by making you think that these extra cams (that are always mediocre at best) deserve you spending extra.

                        Yes, an integrated system is more convenient and most people choose convenience over quality but then you can't use the convenience factor while also claiming you care for "camera" (you as in any given person, I'm not singling you out in particular). I personally choose quality over convenience every single time.

                        Also, think about how much these extra sensors on phones cost when you do buy a new phone, expenses stack up when you think like that.

                        Now I thought this was a given but you guys seem to think I am completely against secondary lenses which for the most part is true but better solution like Aquos R9 Pro and Find X6 Pro do exist and I like some of them myself. I specifically commented on this post because there are 2× telephoto camera on this phone, that to me is redundant, just the wastage of space in the device for a mere 2x and 4.3x optical zoom is not worth the cost and I hope everyone knows that Ultra variants have nothing special beyond these extra cameras, ultra has all the same and often worse internals than any other phone with that years flagship SoC.

                        Some of the greatest phone cameras I've used have just one great sensor and quality software behind it like Lumia 925, Lumia 1020, Lumia 930, Lumia 950 XL, several Xperia XZ devices. I even preferred the 13MP camera on my OnePlus 2 over the 48MP pixel binning gimmick on my OnePlus 7 Pro. Most of these Lumia devices I couldn't own personally beside the 925 but that 8MP on my 925 was just... Chefs kiss. Everything so clean, natural and unadulterated. Short of a faster shutter speed that thing was perfect.

                        I know many of you will still hate on me while never giving any reason to it because at this point it's trendy on this post but oh well, Do you 👍

                          S I R E, 03 Dec 2024What is the obsession with telephoto on a phone? Just 1 gre... morewhat's your solution on a phone? moving parts are gonna make IP ratings basically impossible. And the phone is gonna be super thick as well considering the huge sensors we have now.

                          For context, the Galaxy S4 Zoom had that crater of a camera with a 10x zoom, on a 1/2.33" sensor. That's a 0.42" type. Let's say phones have a 1 inch optical zoom cam of like half the zoom range, how thick and heavy do you think phones would be? The S4 was 7.9 mm thick with a tiny 1/3.1" sensor and weighed 130g. The Galaxy S24 Zoom was 15.4 mm thick with that cam and weighed 208 g. That's like a 60% increase in weight,

                          All in all, it's entirely impractical for a phone to have only one lens.

                            Anonymous, 14 hours agoThe Oppo Find X6 Pro had a 1-inch type sensor with a 1/1.56... moreAnother great find (pun intended) 👍

                            Although R9 Pro uses a slightly larger main sensor and I prefer the sharper design (still all puns intended) 😌

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                              S I R E, 03 Dec 2024Of course, that's your average consumer just looking f... moreThe Oppo Find X6 Pro had a 1-inch type sensor with a 1/1.56 telephoto almost two years ago.

                                Anonymous, 23 hours agoApplying for (talking about something you literally don... moreFilmy much?

                                Impart your "wisdom" why don't you then...

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                                  Vasra, 03 Dec 2024Ultra is not for you. Ultra is camera centric phone. You wa... moreVivo camera best

                                    I dont care about a thick phone oif it will make an outstanding flagship device much better than any competition and competitor weight or thickness arent a problem.

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                                      eugh, 21 hours agoDamn! The camera design looks so ugly. Even low and mid ran... moreits set up for 67mm filters. thats the idea

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                                        Damn! The camera design looks so ugly. Even low and mid range phones have better designs

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