New US defense legislation aims to make it impossible for Huawei to purchase chip tech
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- 26 Dec 2024
Oh the Desperacy is oozing out of this one! If you cant Compete, Ban them is just nuts. One thing the US will Never do is kill the Chinese Will and Zeal to persevere.
They still cant kill Huawei. They should just give it up already.
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- 17 Dec 2024
Ottonis, 17 Dec 2024On the one hand: yes, western chip manufacturing is current... moreThe point is all use Taiwan or US CPU. Kirin is the only domestic CPU. You can run Playstation or Xbox emulators then you will see very fast the power difference in these CPU and then BM becomes relevant ✌️
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- 17 Dec 2024
Ottonis, 17 Dec 2024Nobody ever said that dxomark is the be all end all in came... moreCorrect. I just dont stated the payed stuff as i have no proof of that but ye we all know it 👍
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- 17 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 14 Dec 2024Lmao! 🤣 Come on, China, compete! Oh, that’s right — you can’t!The Chinese market is huge, that's why so many western companies urged to get into China - e.g. Apple.
I mean, we are talking about a user-base of the size larger than than 1.4 billion people. This is of course a highly relevant market. And Huawei is doing extremely well in its home market.
Heck, Huawei, Xiaomi, Vivo and other Chinese companies don't even have the need to make global releases of their finest and very best flagship cameraphones (the "ultra"-variants, not the "pro" ones), which they have reserved for their homeland market.
I can tell because all the cameraphone aficionados from Europa, the Americas and across the world have been drooling over these ultra phones but never got their hands on (except they ordered directly from China).
So, in my opinion, it is extremely important to leave politics aside and give credit where credit is due.
And there is no way around admitting that Chinese cameraphones have massively advanced the entire field and contributed to a fierce and great "fight" over developing and advancing cameraphone technology. Without Huwei, Vivio and Co, cameraphone technology would still be at the level of 2020 and massively more expensive than it is right now.
Competition is probably the best thing ever because it drives up and accelerates development and keeps prices down for the consumers.
And there is no other way than saying that Chinese competition has been great so far!
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- 17 Dec 2024
Bobi7x7 , 15 Dec 2024Oh really and who is the chinese cpu producer ?On the one hand: yes, western chip manufacturing is currently leading.While Chinese CPU manufacturers have perfected and matured the 7nm node and will soon transition to 4nm, the latter of which would still be at least one generation behind TSMC's 3nm process (and 2nm coming soon). Intel Foundry will supposedly transition to 18A manufacturing in H2 2025, and if so, Intel and TSMC will again be 2 generations ahead of Chinese manufacturing.
That being said, the catch-point here is that contemporary smartphone devices almost never really make full use of their raw processing power. Instead they use specific advanced co-processors or add-on chips or special cores specialized in e.g. complex image processing algorithms or calculations relevant to local AI applications.
So, in order to have a great user experience, you don't necessarily need to have the latest and greatest 3nm, 2nm or 18A based chips. As long as you don't run benchmarks, you would probably never be able to tell apart a Snapdragon Elite from a Snapdragon 8 gen 1 in everyday use.
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- 17 Dec 2024
Bobi7x7 , 14 Dec 2024If you trust DXOmark then you are totally lost 😂 They make ... moreNobody ever said that dxomark is the be all end all in camera testing. To my knowledge, they get paid by the manufacturers to test their devices, and so I suppose that the manufacturers are fine with the state of firmware their devices have during testing.
So, while I too think that the rankings and specific points given at dxomark are subject to huge conflicts of interest, they at least back up their findings and impressions with lots of measuemenrs and actual photos. More often than not, I agree with their assessments (based on their own published photo materials) but sometimes I do not agree. For example, a couple of years ago they tested a device from Honor, which they ranked very highly despite some of its pictures looking extremely artificial and definitely much worse than the contenders it got compared with.
So, in essence, dxomark needs to taken with a grain of salt. However, it still represents a reference frame and usually allows to help get an idea on how well a camera actually is.
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- 15 Dec 2024
mart.kr, 15 Dec 2024Desperate, childish, idiotic behavior by the US. The Chines... moreOh really and who is the chinese cpu producer ?
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- 15 Dec 2024
Desperate, childish, idiotic behavior by the US. The Chinese are already producing their own chips, soon maybe even better than the US.
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- 14 Dec 2024
I mean come pixel on place 2 and you see its crap what what dxo is ranking 🤷🏻♂️
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- 14 Dec 2024
Ottonis, 11 Dec 2024All politics aside, and despite all sanctions, Huawei is st... moreIf you trust DXOmark then you are totally lost 😂 They make Camera test when the Software is not even 100% ready but when updates are coming dxo dont repeat tests 🤦🏻♂️ DXOmark was good but now you can not trust this site anymore 🤷🏻♂️
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- 14 Dec 2024
OmarM89, 11 Dec 2024This is ABSOLUTE SHIT and DISGRACE. if USA don't want ... moreIf the company is an US one or Partner they can do whatever they want 🤷🏻♂️
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- 14 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 11 Dec 2024Chip companies will make more money doing business with Hua... moreNope
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- 14 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2024gmail and youtube are terrible examples as you can use both... moreRight. More important are push notifications or working banking apps 👍 nobody cares about gmail or YT
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- 14 Dec 2024
Lmao! 🤣 Come on, China, compete! Oh, that’s right — you can’t!
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- 14 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 13 Dec 2024Lol, yeah, totally, with a decreasing population, China... moreChina has a population of 1.4 billion. If you believe they're going to suffer a population collapse, you'd believe anything. I just happen to have a bridge to sell you.
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- 14 Dec 2024
Imagine chips or smartphones from russia :-)
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- 13 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2024You do realise that China is predicted to surpass the US ec... moreLol, yeah, totally, with a decreasing population, China's GDP is going to overtake the US. What's next, India will be a superpower by 2020?
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- 12 Dec 2024
potato4k, 12 Dec 2024LOL. Although the US has its problems, China is the one tha... moreYou do realise that China is predicted to surpass the US economy within the next decade, if they haven't already? These predictions were made by top academic institutions like Harvard University. Thinking China's economy is going to collapse shows just how clueless you are.
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- 12 Dec 2024
Vegetaholic, 12 Dec 2024USA is the only nation right now protecting us from China o... moreand who protects us from the USA?