TSMC made-in-America chips almost ready for mass production

14 January 2025
Apple is currently in the final stages of verifying the locally made A-series chips.

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Not a bad idea to have chips on American soil, though given the allegations of TSMC outsourcing chips to China, I wonder if this is a trustworthy company. Then again, perhaps it will also inspire more "Made in the USA" tech to appear? Time will tell.

    Anonymous, 15 Jan 2025The plant is being built solely to build Apple silicon.. wi... moreSo, they just order. Without these facilities, they will still be ordering chips. Nothing change for them.

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      jiyen235, 14 Jan 2025you'll never see any company closely tied with Apple/a... morekinda pathetic they have to use underhanded methods to get rid of competitors because they can't win in a fair fight

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        great, now smartphones are going to double in price

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          Seran Mizorogi, 15 Jan 2025Finally, Apple can order chips from this facility directly.... moreActually, the US government is subsidizing the factory being built for this. It's part of the 2022 CHIPS Act.

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            Seran Mizorogi, 15 Jan 2025Finally, Apple can order chips from this facility directly.... moreThe plant is being built solely to build Apple silicon.. without Apple investment the company would not be expanding lol

              Finally, Apple can order chips from this facility directly.

              Btw, I don't like how news sites are making it sounds like Apple has any contribution in building these facilities. No, they don't. They just order.

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                • 15 Jan 2025

                Apple would be happy for the next couple of years, will possibly acquire made in America's TSMC foundry for in house chip, in my perspective.

                  downwiththeccp, 15 Jan 2025Biden made this possible and what did Arizona do? lmaoNope. The deal was in order in 2020 during Donald's previous term and was a big win for him.

                    downwiththeccp, 15 Jan 2025Biden made this possible and what did Arizona do? lmaoNo, this was initiated in 2020 during Trump's previous term and the deal was "a big win for the Trump administration, which has long been sounding the alarm on the semiconductor industry’s reliance on producers and chip manufacturing done in Asia, calling the dependence a threat to national security." - CNN, May 15th, 2020

                    No credit to Biden for this.

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                      Anonymous, 14 Jan 2025Building a factory in America, which will only benefit Amer... moreThey dont care about the rest of the world.

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                        nickname optional, 14 Jan 2025The actual wafer technology is American. And the machines t... moreThen why the chips company was in taiwan?
                        Why US did not built the factory themselves in US in the first place?

                          Anonymous, 14 Jan 2025Building a factory in America, which will only benefit Amer... moreMake your own factories 🤷

                            Biden made this possible and what did Arizona do? lmao

                              Anonymous, 14 Jan 2025Building a factory in America, which will only benefit Amer... moreU.S is safer.

                                Diavoros, 14 Jan 2025Ah yes, chips made with good ol' american craftmanship... moreGlad I live in the "rest of the World"

                                  FredrickX, 14 Jan 2025Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company ❌ America Semic... moreThe actual wafer technology is American. And the machines that produce the wafers are made by netherlands.

                                    One nice thing about this is that an important part of iPhones will be made in a place that has better working conditions. Obviously, the best thing you can do is buy a used phone, but a lot of people unfortunately don't want to or don't care, so this is a great step in the right direction.

                                    At least in theory. American labor laws are good (kinda) right now, but in a week we're about to get one of the most "pro-business" (anti-worker) presidents we've had in a long time, and he promised to cut 10 regulations for every one added. And Congress is controlled by his party.

                                    But even if workers' rights remain intact during the next four years and we don't get the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory part 2, we still have to factor in TSMC's work culture, which, according to an article by Fortune, is "brutal", with people frequently working 12-hour days and sleeping in the office for a month straight.

                                      Ah yes, chips made with good ol' american craftmanship, what could go wrong? 😂
                                      Now we will have to check if the wafers were made in Taiwan or the US for reliability.

                                        Can we appreciate just how quickly (and cheaply) this has happened. The company TSMC set out with a goal and hit it well. You cannot say the same thing with Intel, their corporation has been in mismanagement for a decade now.

                                        As for what these fabs will be used for: lots of things.
                                        Just because we have 3nm cutting-edge now, doesn't mean we don't use derivatives of 5nm, 8nm, 16nm, and even 28nm wafers.

                                        I can see this fab pumping out 4nm wafers, which is still high-end, for things like mid-range ARM, current x86 CPUs, dGPUs, NPUs, RAM, SSDs, and even components in motherboards, networking, and automotive. They could diversify into 8nm nodes, or step up to 3nm/2nm nodes depending on the market forces and the capabilities of the fab.

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