Microsoft brings distilled DeepSeek R1 models to Copilot+ PCs
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- 11 Feb 2025
Anonymous, 31 Jan 2025Atleast he can talk unlike bidenThat is the problem, isn't it?
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- 08 Feb 2025
The full fat DeepSeek model is about 470GB, give or take a few tens of GB. I don’t know anyone with that much ram on their home pc or phone, even the beastiest Android flagship. It doesn’t matter if you choose an Nvidia GPU or some other CPU, for a LLM to work you HAVE to do calculations. DeepSeek can be used with any hardware as far as I know and training a LLM is very different to using a LLM the way most of us have started doing in the last few years. My money is still on OpenAI, it is the most mature from my experience, everyone is trying to catch up.
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- 31 Jan 2025
Bro, 31 Jan 2025I hope China censorship and Chinese gratification won'... moreIt's opensource so you can modify it or even use it offline & manually update it via USB drive.
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- 31 Jan 2025
LOL Microsoft chose not to spend Billions worth of Nvidia AI Hardware. 🤣
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- 31 Jan 2025
Trooper, 31 Jan 2025It's not about copywrite, but debunking whether DeepSe... moreAnd you miss the point. What DeepSeek did in terms of "piggybacking" or distillation is common practice for all AI companies. It's the industry norm, in fact the work from one of the godfathers of AI that earned him the Nobel is about the need to use distillation to improve LLMs: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.02531.
What's unique about DeepSeek is the algorithms used to train this AI is much more efficient. Meaning if you were to train DeepSeek and ChatGPT using the same resources, it'd be cheaper and quicker to train DeepSeek thus reducing DeepSeek's development cost.
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- 31 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 31 Jan 2025As if these western companies didn't do the same thing... moreIt's not about copywrite, but debunking whether DeepSeek is/was actually cheaper to develop than the preceding AI chatbot technologies, or if they are just piggybacking using existing freely available code. If piggybacking on others code is in fact the case, then the development costs of of those will have to be factored in to the total cost of DeepSeek, thus making DeepSeek's development actually more expensive...
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- 31 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 30 Jan 2025Depends upon Trump's mouth opening speed.Atleast he can talk unlike biden
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- 31 Jan 2025
Trooper, 31 Jan 2025I guess we'll find out just how cheap this new Chinese... more"whether any freely available code released by existing chatbot creators was used to create DeepSeek, or if it is indeed all their original"
If the code was freely available (I'm considering as open source) you cannot blame them for using the code (it's not stealing as long as code is open source)
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- 31 Jan 2025
I hope China censorship and Chinese gratification won't happen to global AI version of DeepSeek.
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- 31 Jan 2025
Trooper, 31 Jan 2025I guess we'll find out just how cheap this new Chinese... moreAs if these western companies didn't do the same thing. Copyright is now suddenly an issue for OpenAI when their business model was built off stealing other people's works and contents.
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- 31 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 30 Jan 2025No more billions for them after cheapskate China men expose... moreI guess we'll find out just how cheap this new Chinese model really is, once the investigations on whether any freely available code released by existing chatbot creators was used to create DeepSeek, or if it is indeed all their original code.
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- Anonymous
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- 30 Jan 2025
TechDevil, 30 Jan 2025They're playing safe now 🤣🤣No more billions for them after cheapskate China men exposed their overpriced models.
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- 30 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 30 Jan 2025Having everything run locally - that I am actually ok with.... moreDeepseek already exposed these guys. Asking soo much money for as much as BILLIONS of dollars from investors/govt. Then chinese guys comes along and says their stuff operates on the cheap. Pathetic.
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- 30 Jan 2025
Having everything run locally - that I am actually ok with.
Having my data tossed around the internet (and for a subscription fee) to do something as basic as what the current models are most used for - lolno.
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- 30 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 30 Jan 2025Correction: * By nor buy (stupid auto correct 🤦🏻♂️)Happens all the time.
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- 30 Jan 2025
Belsa, 30 Jan 2025Chinese App or Software, how long will it take the US to ban it?Depends upon Trump's mouth opening speed.
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- 30 Jan 2025
Correction:
* By nor buy (stupid auto correct 🤦🏻♂️)
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- 30 Jan 2025
LoL 🤣🤣 even Microsoft jump gun on DeepSeek buy bring R1 models. My guess will be the large language module. Since Microsoft have the facility to do so. Waiting for Apple and Linux on this too. LOL 🤣🤣