Android-to-iPhone RCS messages will be end-to-end encrypted

14 March 2025
Both Apple and Google will work to support a new specification allowing this as soon as possible.

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Vasra, 15 Mar 2025If you use RCS , ALL your message data goes to two servers:... moreThis. RCS is a Google proprietary product. Do not use RCS.

    Anonymous, 15 Mar 2025Look up end-to-end encryption.Look up XChaCha20-Poly1305 256-bit key length algo wich handles E2EE on RCS. You are clueless

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      • 16 Mar 2025

      potato4k, 15 Mar 2025Realme and Vivo still use their own SMS app I guess it's more region specific, since most Realme and Vivo that sold in my country comes with Google Message.
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      1. My friend just bought a Realme 13 many days ago, and I'm the one who helped him set up the phone. It comes with Google Messages as the only messaging app.
      2. Just looked at the Z9X review from one of the local reviewer in my country (since I'm thinking about getting one) and idk how accurate is that but I see from the home screen from that video that it comes with Google Messages.

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        • 16 Mar 2025

        Vasra, 15 Mar 2025If you use RCS , ALL your message data goes to two servers:... moreAre you cypherpunk?

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          • 15 Mar 2025

          JimmyTheGreatest, 15 Mar 2025End-to-end encryption is only a tunnel. Before a datagram e... moreAnd said tunnel is between the sender and the recipient. This is why the service provider won't be able to read the messages. Obviously, there must be a starting point before the messages are encrypted. And of course, the messages have to be decrypted at some point otherwise even the recipient won't be able to read them. Really, start reading.

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            • 15 Mar 2025

            Anonymous, 15 Mar 2025Source?Your phone that constantly sending information about you to Google and the phone manufacturer.

              AnonF-1061058, 15 Mar 2025iirc most Android phones that got sold here (like the one f... moreRealme and Vivo still use their own SMS app

                Vasra, 15 Mar 2025If you use RCS , ALL your message data goes to two servers:... moreThe current generation know nothing about these things.

                  Anonymous, 15 Mar 2025Look up end-to-end encryption.End-to-end encryption is only a tunnel. Before a datagram enter the tunnel and after it leaves it, it's not encrypted. In the past people mistakenly thought that onion routers were safe.

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                    • 15 Mar 2025

                    Vasra, 15 Mar 2025If you use RCS , ALL your message data goes to two servers:... moreLook up end-to-end encryption.

                      If you use RCS , ALL your message data goes to two servers:

                      1. Google
                      2. Apple

                      All other RCS servers/relays have been slowly removed, including those of telcos and Samsung.

                      You are basically trusting that the non-quantum-proof algo of XChaCha20-Poly1305 256-bit key length (what RCS MLS uses for encryption) will not be broke now or in the future.

                      All the big corps are doing "Store Now, Decrypt later". They will store all your messages, integrated the metadata to all the other information about you (location, transaction, financial, genomic, personal, work, education - all via Palantir) and sell it to all state, non-state and corporate players.

                      You are the product.

                      The more data you give about yourself, the easier target you have become.

                      Cypherpunks knew this since late 80s.

                      The current generation has lost the meaning of it.

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                        • srr
                        • 15 Mar 2025

                        This protocol is useless if it can't use classical standard telekom protocols instead of the IP Mess.

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                          • srr
                          • 15 Mar 2025

                          But the keyloggers will not. :))

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                            • 15 Mar 2025

                            Shahar , 14 Mar 2025I don't know any iPhone user that has RCS working, and... moredoes know any whatsapp user has that RCS working among either

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                              • 15 Mar 2025

                              AnonF-1061058, 15 Mar 2025iirc most Android phones that got sold here (like the one f... more*got sold here in my country (even though no one knows what's an RCS here)

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                                • 15 Mar 2025

                                potato4k, 15 Mar 2025This is the joke. Google made a big fuss about RCS, yet man... moreiirc most Android phones that got sold here (like the one from Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Motorola, Realme, Nubia, Infinix, Tecno, Itel, Sharp, Asus, etc.) already uses Google Message as their built in preinstalled messaging app instead of each company's own messaging app.

                                  Anonymous, 15 Mar 2025Which makes it meaningless when the AI ​​agent simply sends... moreYou forgot to mention state actors.

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                                    • 15 Mar 2025

                                    Anonymous, 15 Mar 2025Which makes it meaningless when the AI ​​agent simply sends... moreSource?

                                      cool

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                                        • 15 Mar 2025

                                        Anonymous, 15 Mar 2025End-to-end encryption means that only the sender and the re... moreWhich makes it meaningless when the AI ​​agent simply sends screenshots every X seconds to the servers of the manufacturer of "your" phone.

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