vivo X200 Ultra unboxing surfaces along with another image showing all three colors
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jiyen235, 8 hours agothe tri fold is so good i was ready to sell my bike for it ... moreWell with my casual luck is a no for me.
I am capable of breeaking litterary everything even a things which are harder thn diamond and more durable than tungsten, carbon fibre, vibranium etc.
Thats to my casual luck.
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Cpt.Power, 20 hours agoWell many phones had their pros and cons. My favorites be... morethe tri fold is so good i was ready to sell my bike for it bruh it was magnificent 😭😭😭
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jiyen235, 18 Apr 2025i understand that, and i personally am one who prefers stuf... moreWell many phones had their pros and cons.
My favorites been told.
But like i say rather average and clever girl than A class model with empty head.
Same about phones.
Samsung is a no for me. A0X looks exactly like S series. Thats a no for me.
Mi 15 ultra looks awesome or last Oneplus 13.
Generic Pixels are a no for me.
Ye the tri fold is super beautifull apart the fact i dislike fold phones because of lack of durability of main screen. Said paper thin foil thich can be broken by toothpick is a no for me.
Unless corning or someone else will comes with glass which can fold, bend but will no breaks and can survive Jerryrigeverything tortures with flying colors i am in.
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- 18 Apr 2025
Eno2, 18 Apr 2025You think you know better than an AI, which access to vast... moreI would say that about 80% of what you get from any AI model needs to be double-checked, as they tend to hallucinate a lot. And what I wrote is not some magic, but just basic math and common knowledge. Is algebra from I would say 5th, maybe 6th grade, from primary school. You have on one side - 8,8mm (sensor). In an L-shaped prism, you need to make a 45-degree angle. So that makes the light path from the middle to the prism long side 4,4 down and 4,4 to the side. That sums up to 8.8. So that is the absolute minimum distance if the sensor and lens are glued to both sides of the prism, not taking into consideration any gaps, and the lens width. No magic here.
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- 18 Apr 2025
SirArtur, 17 Apr 2025And for the main sensor for calculations you took quiet slo... moreNobody wrote about f/1,6 apertures, I was stating that regardless of aperture, larger sensors offer better image quality in good light compared to smaller ones.
If reading is hard, try some complex mathematical formulas, to prove me wrong. ;)
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- 18 Apr 2025
SirArtur, 17 Apr 2025Your chatGPT gave you almost, but almost good answer. But. ... moreYou think you know better than an AI, which access to vast knowledge database? This types of comments have no real value, because are not based on scientific facts. Everything that Grok summarized was doubled by ample mathematical calculation, that can be double checked. Science by definition is demonstrable. I can't say the same about the pseudo arguments you present, which lack both substance and meaning.
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- 18 Apr 2025
Cpt.Power, 17 Apr 2025Well bezzles or not i really dont care much from design.
... morei understand that, and i personally am one who prefers stuff based on merits as well. But my point is that at least the Samsung has ONE thing going for it, yk? I was just trying to find a way of properly compliment it lol
and ehhh that's all your opinion. The Find X7 Ultra, Find X6 Pro and the X90 Pro+'s leather versions were design masterpieces imo. Just look at the Mate XT Ultimate in its red color, peak design.
So yeah, i dont think NOTHING's good anymore, i also wont say it's that great either. We do get hints of greatness from time to time. I personally REALLY loved the LG G3, G4/V10's leather design and liked the G6. The V20 and V30 were really cool too. I miss designs like that tbh....
Wasn't a fan of the velvet phones, they looked too much like a Samsung/iPhone to me and i didn't really love their bland designs. Oh and if we're talking about 2015-ish era phones the Galaxy S6/Huawei Mate 7 or even the Huawei P9 are excellent examples of great looking phones. And how can one forget the excellent Nexus 6P, whose beauty Google is STILL trying to replicate hahaha
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Eno2, 17 Apr 2025A 1-inch sensor (such as the Sony LYT-900, used in the Oppo... moreAnd for the main sensor for calculations you took quiet slow lens, F/2.8. go with 1.6 for main. :)
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- 17 Apr 2025
Eno2, 17 Apr 2025A 1-inch sensor (such as the Sony LYT-900, used in the Oppo... moreYour chatGPT gave you almost, but almost good answer. But. As you even wrote here focal length for 17mm equivalent is 6.3mm. No matter how you construct your periscope, either W shape or L shape, the distance from lens to sensor that light has to travel will be always greater than 6.3mm, and therefore focal length will be greater. Because with L shape, where you can have shorter focal lengths than on W, even if you glue sensor to the prism from the top, and the sensor on the side, the minimal distance that light will have to go is smaller side of the sensor - 8.8mm. So nice calculations, but only possible if prims can be either inside of the sensor or lens partially.
So for such small focal length you need to go with simple and straight lens and sensor setup, and therefore that's the minimum thickness of such setup.
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- 17 Apr 2025
SirArtur, 17 Apr 2025Yes, and I have mentioned them in my previous comment. 1-in... moreA 1-inch sensor (such as the Sony LYT-900, used in the Oppo Find X7 Ultra and X8 Ultra) has a diagonal of ~16.384 mm and dimensions of ~13.2 mm x 8.8 mm (4:3 ratio). Crop factor of 2.7x for a 1-inch sensor compared to full-frame.
Equivalent focal lengths and apertures:
17 mm equivalent (f/2): Actual focal length = 17 / 2.7 ≈ 6.3 mm; lens diameter at f/2 ≈ 3.15 mm.
35 mm equivalent (f/2.8): Actual focal length = 35 / 2.7 ≈ 13 mm; lens diameter at f/2.8 ≈ 4.6 mm.
70 mm equivalent (f/4): Actual focal length = 70 / 2.7 ≈ 26 mm; lens diameter at f/4 ≈ 6.5 mm.
7mm equivalent (6.3mm real, f/2):
Without periscope: The optical assembly length would be ~8-10mm (at f/2, requiring 5-6 optical elements to correct aberrations on a 1-inch sensor). The total module thickness would be ~10-12mm, including the space for the sensor and mount.
With periscope design: The thickness drops to ~6-8mm (lens diameter ~5-6mm + prism thickness ~2mm). The ~8-10mm optical path is redistributed across the width/length.
With "W" design: The thickness could be ~6-7mm, and the optical path length across the width/length drops to ~5-6mm (by multiple folding).
35mm equivalent (13mm real, f/2.8):
Without periscope: Optics assembly length (from previous estimates) is ~18-20mm at f/2.8.
With periscope design: Thickness drops to ~10-12mm (lens diameter ~6-8mm + prism). The ~18-20mm optical path is redistributed across width/length.
With "W" design: Thickness drops to ~9-11mm, and optical path length across width/length drops to ~8-10mm.
70mm equivalent (26mm real, f/4):
Without periscope: Optics assembly length is ~22-24mm at f/4.
With periscope design: Thickness drops to ~10-12mm (lens diameter ~8-10mm + prism). The ~22-24mm optical path is across width/length.
With "W" design: Thickness decreases to ~8-10 mm and optical path length per width/length decreases to ~10-12 mm.
Conclusion
Yes, it is possible to build a phone with three 1-inch sensors (17mm f/2, 35mm f/2.8, 70mm f/4) using the best current technologies, but the thickness would be greater than that of the Oppo Find X7 Ultra (9.5mm):
With periscope design: Thickness would be ~12-14mm, ~2.5-4.5mm more than the Find X7 Ultra.
With optimized "W" design: Thickness could be reduced to ~11.5-13mm, ~2-3.5mm more than the Find X7 Ultra.
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- 17 Apr 2025
Bot10Exists, 17 Apr 2025the problem is that the bezels don't make up for its m... morei know, im just trying to give it one compliment LOL
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jiyen235, 17 Apr 2025the chipset aint the greatest as the cooling is mid-bad and... morethe problem is that the bezels don't make up for its many, many major flaws (talking about the s25)
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- 17 Apr 2025
Camera Island thicker than the phone thickness
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- 17 Apr 2025
jiyen235, 17 Apr 2025the chipset aint the greatest as the cooling is mid-bad and... moreWell bezzles or not i really dont care much from design.
I am that kind of guy who will have rather ugly but clever girlfriend than a bombshell A call star model but with braindead disfunction.
Thus to my ghonest opinion.
When comes to beautification factor my moest favorite was Poco X7 for example. Or a Deadpool and Wolwerine phone.
Motorola X4 of the old times or Lenovo Vibeshot which were looking like a A tier camera at that time.
Best i liked was Velvet 2 by LG and Vertu phones when comes to beautification factor.
Nowdays most phones are decent in look nothing which stands out or can be classified as extraordinary like Caviar made phone, Movado or Gresso.
Well lets see what we gets in future.
Waiting for Motorola edge 60 ultra to replace my Edge 40 pro also cant wait to see Nothing phone 3 flagship grade phone.
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- 17 Apr 2025
Just as it works on thinness and battery capacity, the industry should work on reducing the size of camera bulges on phones. Soon, it won't even be possible to buy a good flagship phone without an extremely large camera tumor on the back.
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- 17 Apr 2025
Cpt.Power, 17 Apr 2025Exactly in camera and not only in camera department the S25... morethe chipset aint the greatest as the cooling is mid-bad and they throttle it hard for the most part, charging speeds are up but it's not the fastest and the battery doesn't last long enough to offset it.
Software is the only "good" thing about it and really it's exactly that, just good. It's not good enough to offset anything else. I say this as an S22 Ultra user and someone who has a dad who uses an S25 Ultra.
One thing i'll give Samsung tho is the fact that the S25 Ultra has the prettiest front of a phone imo. I'm a huge fan of that. It's a tie between that and the redmagic 10 cus the 10 has a chin or the bezels are just not symmetrical i think idk what it is but something feels a little off about it.
Edit : Just saw the pics again and YEOWZERS the redmagic is absolutely STUNNING, perhaps the bezels are SLIGHTLY thicker than the s25 ultra but that doesnt matter as it is gorgeous. My bad. The 10 Pro+ is easily the prettiest looking phone from the front. I love more angular phones!
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- 17 Apr 2025
Oooh. That is a great looking phone. If it is globally available in 1tb version, i might switch from samsung to vivo permanently.
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- 17 Apr 2025
Is that a camera bump, or are you just pleased to see me?
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- 17 Apr 2025
Eno2, 17 Apr 2025Phone manufactures have found plenty of ways to reduce the ... moreYes, and I have mentioned them in my previous comment. 1-inch sensor size is a bit more than 8mm on the shorter edge. Add just because of that, and you will get an even bigger bump (you have the sensor perpendicular to the phone, and add some casing for the sensor and lens setup). The second seems like a better option, but still you need to maintain quite a low angle, so the height of that prism cut will not be much lower than the sensor size itself. Also, you cannot use it for a shorter focal length, as the minimum focal length in the prism will be greater than 35mm (for 1 inch sensor size minimum focal length that you can get with double-prism setup is around 16mm, so with crop factor 2.7x it would give something around 43mm And that is very rought calculation, as I do not remember what is actuall size of LYT-900. So no, there is no cheating here. S longer focal length, yes - prism is a way to go, for smaller - you will gain nothing.