vivo X Fold5 and X200 FE make their way to India
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- 17 Jul 2025
Anonymous, 15 Jul 2025Vivo trying to deceive people by putting X in its name. I w... moreYes... That's why I am calling it Vivo X200 Fools Edition.
Should have been priced 10k lower.
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- 15 Jul 2025
kdss, 15 Jul 2025They don't have adapters in Europe. I'm from Bulg... moreoh wow thanks for the heads-up!
Greed..... one of the oldest and worst sins!!
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- 15 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 15 Jul 2025just using gsmarena's tests as a guide and chinese pho... moreThey don't have adapters in Europe. I'm from Bulgaria and I didn't have an adapter. GSMArena is also a Bulgarian site, as far as I know. If they get a Chinese version for testing, they will have it. Otherwise, no.
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- 15 Jul 2025
kdss, 15 Jul 2025It is very relative whether the tests are done with the rig... morejust using gsmarena's tests as a guide and chinese phones have chargers in the box in general lol
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- 15 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 15 Jul 2025btw wattage doesnt mean anything, the aggressiveness of the... moreIt is very relative whether the tests are done with the right adapters. I highly doubt that all testers have adapters from all manufacturers. It clearly matters and there is a difference. I am telling you this from experience.
My 1+13 with the original 80 watt power supply of 1+/Oppo SuperVooc charges extremely quickly ~35 min. With the 67 watt power supply of Xiaomi it charges in an hour and a half minimum and gets quite hot. And since phones are now coming en masse without adapters, I don't think I can trust a tester to have tested it with the right charger for the phone.
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- 15 Jul 2025
kdss, 15 Jul 2025That's right. First, batteries are tested in laborator... morebtw wattage doesnt mean anything, the aggressiveness of the manufacturer and whether or not the phone has a dual cell battery changes everything. For example the S25 Ultra charges super fast for a 45W phone and the Oneplus 13 charges FAR faster than the X200 Pro/Ultra despite the wattage ratings being only 10W higher.
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- 15 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 15 Jul 2025ai summaries are just using tidbits from web results and gi... moreThat's right. First, batteries are tested in laboratories under strictly defined environmental parameters, etc. Second, it doesn't matter at all how exactly you're going to use it, protect it, AI monitoring of charging, etc.
I've had phones that sat plugged into the adapter for over 50 percent of the time. I've also had ones that I recharged and stored according to all the rules. No difference after 3 years.
The only thing that's important to me right now is that the battery capacity is as large as possible and that it has at least 80 watts of charging to be fast. That's it.
My time is a much more valuable asset than some battery, that even if you don't use it, gets old and in a few years will have to be replaced.
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- 15 Jul 2025
kdss, 15 Jul 2025Most likely, some artificial intelligence has summarized th... moreai summaries are just using tidbits from web results and giving you a summary. The ai could be using random rumors for all we know. For critical niche info, ai summaries are useless.
AI summaries are only useful for known popular stuff, for example what the USB gen 3 and stuff things mean.
And like the charge cycle thing is just a marketing thing i think, aint no way someone's gonna sit down and validate it all. I've used Li-ion and li-poly batteries with slow or fast charging and 80% charging limit and i just have to say, nothing is as bad as updates. Your phone will get nuked harder with updates than any charging/battery tech.
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- 15 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 15 Jul 2025omg google's saying one of its competitors' main ... moreMost likely, some artificial intelligence has summarized that the 2000 cycles that Samsung is already promising are more than the 1600 of Si/C. Which as a number is exactly right. But in reality it is a marketing trick. 2000 charges of a small battery every day are fewer days of life than 1600 charges of a large battery every day and a half.
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- 15 Jul 2025
Jemek, 15 Jul 2025You are looking to deep into this. When even Vivo says it&#... moreand im asking you where did vivo say it?
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- 15 Jul 2025
RaviSS, 15 Jul 2025Poor pricing, but was expected given that it was positioned... moreVivo trying to deceive people by putting X in its name. I would not pay more than 42k for x200fe.
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- 15 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 15 Jul 2025omg google's saying one of its competitors' main ... moreYou are looking to deep into this. When even Vivo says it's true and the industry is trying to find a solution cuz the tech is new. Chinese companies like big (or small) numbers but it's too soon for the consumers to see the drawbacks. It's like with fast charging. Few years ago it was worse for the battery than it is now, cuz again, it was new tech. For now I would actually prefer a big Li/Po battery, but most important is the overall battery score, not the capacity. I don't care how they do it. One good thing with the whole Si/C batteries is the trend to make phones smaller (Chinese phones). Hope we can even get 6,2-6,1" phones in the 300-400$ midrange price point like the Edge Neo series.
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- 15 Jul 2025
Jemek, 14 Jul 2025I can't find it but it wasn't a very reliable sou... moreomg google's saying one of its competitors' main selling points is bad?!! 😱😱
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- 15 Jul 2025
Poor pricing, but was expected given that it was positioned as an X series phone.
There is no reason why it should be costing 1.5x of T4 ultra which has mostly similar specs.
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- 15 Jul 2025
Nothing Phone 3 Killer🐉🐉🐉
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- 14 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 14 Jul 2025it's only gsmarena's test. And i dont really trus... moreI can't find it but it wasn't a very reliable source, a screenshot from a forum with an answer from someone from Vivo. Someone asking if Si/C batteries degrade faster I think. But google is saying the same also it's not only Vivo's batteries.
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- 14 Jul 2025
X200 FE is heavily overpriced for what it offers (an almost 2 years old flagship chip)
Should've been priced around $540 or 45k INR
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- 14 Jul 2025
Jemek, 14 Jul 2025Also what's up with the bad battery life of the X200 F... moreit's only gsmarena's test. And i dont really trust this test too much, very random and doesnt match others' tests. HuashengTest on yt did a small test for a few hours and the X200 Pro and X200 FE had similar battery life. The IQOO 13 was sliightly better, im talking 1-2% difference amongst these phones lol
And wdym? When did Vivo talk about the degradation? link sources please
I think that Si/C degradation is something no one really knows. I think it's safe to say that Si/C neither degrades nor holds its health better than others, i'd just like to say that it's the same as the older tech. Because phone manufacturers put in safety measures themselves. They limit the battery to a smaller amount than Li-ion batteries of the equivalent size. Watch Geekerwan's Chinese video on battery life on phones. You'll understand.
Good optimisation means nothing. I can turn on ultra battery saving mode and get extreme battery life. Apple, Sony, Google and Samsung "optimize" by cutting power, throttling, lowering refresh rate and brightness. Realme does that as well. Only Oneplus and Oppo give u absolute speed but their SoT is always a bit lower than others comparatively. Vivo is in a nice middle ground.
I'd say Vivo has optimized phones but i personally would rather go for Oneplus/Oppo phones, i respect that type of phone more. They can give u phones that work at full power yet have great battery life as well.
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- 14 Jul 2025
jiyen235, 14 Jul 2025better UW cam is not enough, it needs faster charging, bett... moreAlso what's up with the bad battery life of the X200 FE? Xiaomi is not know to have the lightest UI and it beats the FE more than 1h with far smaller battery? Whats the point of the 6500mAh. Also Vivo said Si/C batteries degrade faster and OnePlus 13S got a Li/Po 5850mAh battery so the Si/C hype is kinda dying on me when OEMs forget good optimization to go with it.
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- 14 Jul 2025
I'd buy it if it were half that price but oh well