Samsung may have developed a way to keep the Exynos 2600 cooler

29 July 2025
A change in how the chipset stack is layered may lead to a novel way of improving heat dissipation.

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Zero, 29 Jul 2025The prices might skyrocket if goes full Qualcomm.The price is already skyrocket thanks apple to lead every maker in this direction.

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    Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025This is last comment I won't reply again, usual i dont... moreYeah/// Keep blabbering the same. Never said AMD was bad at raytracing. So, you don't haave to include it in every comment. That video there proves the CPU is the reason why Exynos is efficient, not the GPU. That GPU there is pricey and power hungry.
    AMD GPU is power hungry, same for the PC word and Smartphone world.
    I hope Samsung come up with some GPU design or they are doomed.
    Even though I heard the RDNA is lot more efficient but can't trust it yet cause AMD themselves are reluctant to bring new GPUs.

      P C M, 01 Aug 2025There is abundant CPU real life efficiency test(browsing te... moreThis is last comment I won't reply again, usual i dont like discussing with people who use "trust me bro" as evidence when you have lot of test and data out there.

      The video you post goes together with written article here

      https://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-vs-snapdragon-galaxy-s24-3411235/

      Same thing which I told you before 8 gen 3 is stronger Chip but Exynos win in Ray tracing.

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        Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025I mean the link show Exactly what am talking 1. I asked fo... moreThere is abundant CPU real life efficiency test(browsing test) out there.
        I showed GPU results to show that AMD GPU is less efficient than other 2. ..
        I think we have dragged this long enough. I don't have that much time.
        Let's give you some bullet points.
        1. AMD GPU is less efficient and inferior compared to the other two android GPU. I have provided real life video evidence but yet you keep saying I am talking without proof.
        2. Now benchmark always matter. Off course it doesn't 100% show you real life capability but it's damn close. AMD doing better at Raytracing benchmark proves that.
        3. Now the benchmark usually are pretty much on the spot when it comes to show GPU efficiency. My referred by "Golden Reviewer" data and the gaming video test both show that AMD GPU is less efficient.
        4. Now Exynos 2400 CPU is efficient in real world usage because it does so in real. Here is a video where it excellently describes why Exynos 2400 is more efficient than SD gen 3. Because of CPU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYB2GJ5KfhY
        $$. It proves CPU in 2400 is way more efficient in real life and That's how it's beating Qualcomm.
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        5. About Exynos being massively cheaper. It is not. If that were the case many other brands who target low price high end SoC would have used them in their phone instead of using SD 8s series. Exynos may be slightly cheaper but nothing dramatic. Also Samsung buy Qualcomm SoC way cheaper than other brands. Fabs usually have 10-15% profit margin. So, given that I'm confident Exynos 2400 costs very similar to the Snapdragon, maybe at best 5% less. There is a reason why Samsung used Dimensity in their Tablet and not Exynos 2400.

        Also didn't I just tell you Samsung using 12-16 CU for the GPU and it's raising the cost?
        I mean even a Ryzen 7 series and SteamDeck handheld use only 12CU and 8CU respectively.

          Hemedans, 30 Jul 2025Not just that S24 is first base model of S series to enter ... morethat's why it feels weird if they suddenly axe the base S. The s24 got the base S some considerable momentum in terms of sales.

          Base S25 topped the charts in france at some point this year, and you can get it for like 600 now

            P C M, 01 Aug 2025Yeah.. But the profit isn't there, Is it?? You need to... moreThat's not how business work, there is a reason why Samsung wants to use Exynos when possible because it's more profitable making it themselves, Same to other Big phone manufactures like Apple, Huawei and even now Xiaomi.

            Qualcomm will put premium profit in their chip, like if it cost them $100 to make they will sell it for $150.

            Amd ip is nothing licencing tech is cheaper than make others build it for you.

            Revenue and profits wise Samsung did better in 2022 and 2024 than 2023 because of in house Soc.

              P C M, 01 Aug 2025Man.. You are really pathetic. The moment it suits you, you... moreI mean the link show Exactly what am talking
              1. I asked for Cpu source you bring gpu
              2. The link you provide showing Xclipse winning by far using modern benchmark (like solar bay) and losing in older one like Gfxbench (things I have been told your comments after comments)

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                • 01 Aug 2025

                Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025Doe is matter? It's price which Samsung mobile pay to ... moreYeah.. But the profit isn't there, Is it?? You need to add AMD IP cost too.

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                  Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025All flip are slow not just Samsung one, using flip to compa... moreIt does lose against it's own Flip 6 BTW..

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                    Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025Both Amd and Qualcomm has laptop gpu why do you even mentio... moreBecause it's simple. Support is a crucial matter. Even Apple struggled at first time trial.
                    Remember how pathetic AMD on Exynos first year was?? Almost half the games won't let you dial the setting up.

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                      • 01 Aug 2025

                      Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025E2400 it's not better at cpu in both Efficiency and pe... moreMan.. You are really pathetic. The moment it suits you, you bring up those benchmark slides of efficiency.. But disregard when it is performance benchmark!!!
                      In real world while doing CPU intensive task Exynos 2400 outlast SD gen 3.
                      If I could used these graph I would have won millennia ago.. 🤣
                      Here, look how efficient you AMD GPU is along with performance. https://www.sammobile.com/news/exynos-2400-performance-ray-tracing-most-powerful-efficient-chip/

                        P C M, 01 Aug 2025TSMC and Samsung has same node production cost. It's t... moreDoe is matter? It's price which Samsung mobile pay to Semiconductor division. If they didn't pay someone else would pay etc.

                          P C M, 01 Aug 2025Yeah.. AMD GPU is so good that their 400W GPU loses to Appl... moreBoth Amd and Qualcomm has laptop gpu why do you even mention apple? why not comparing them directly?

                          https://www.pcworld.com/article/2429428/amd-radeon-vs-intel-arc-vs-qualcomm-adreno-integrated-graphics-who-wins.html

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                            Hemedans, 01 Aug 2025So if they have Same die size and node is 30% cheaper how i... moreTSMC and Samsung has same node production cost. It's the competitiveness that is driving the price up. For example, you and I sell same stuff but you sell it at higher price because in your city it's highly demanded.
                            So, Samsung isn't actually doing much profit on node level. And the 30% cost difference is just an online gossip like How a Huawei Engineer is helping Samsung with GPU development. 🤣

                              P C M, 01 Aug 2025Are you stup*d or have difficulty understanding contextual ... moreE2400 it's not better at cpu in both Efficiency and perfomance, but it's better in Gpu efficiency, talking is cheap here is my proof.

                              https://socpk.com/

                              Check both Cpu and Gpu efficiency,

                              Can you show me any test which show E2400 has better efficiency in cpu?

                                P C M, 01 Aug 2025You're getting on my nerve of your one sided talking. ... moreAll flip are slow not just Samsung one, using flip to compare soc is just lame, Motorola has flip with 8 elite, I can use it and say 8 elite is slower than E2400 but I can't go that low.

                                  P C M, 01 Aug 2025Node price is because of competitiveness bro, not that the ... moreSo if they have Same die size and node is 30% cheaper how is E2400 more expensive? You contradict yourself.


                                  Not just Samsung Even Qualcomm use Samsing in most of it's lowend soc, because of low price, same to Nintendo, Tesla and others, Samsung node is cheaper for long time now.

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                                    Hemedans, 31 Jul 2025 1. Qualcomm lose to Amd in pc because their architectur... moreYeah.. AMD GPU is so good that their 400W GPU loses to Apple's 50W GPU.. 🤣🤣
                                    And Apple GPU is just 10-20% better than SD.. SO, this clearly proves Qualcomm GPU and Mali GPU is better than AMD even if we don't take their Windows performance.

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                                      Hemedans, 31 Jul 2025 1. Qualcomm lose to Amd in pc because their architectur... moreAre you stup*d or have difficulty understanding contextual arguments?
                                      Or just doing this for the sake of debate??
                                      I said Exynos CPU in 2400 was better at efficiency, not performance. So, where did you get that I said Exynos 2400 performed better in CPU performance?? I clearly gave you the video to show efficiency and said given Exynos CPU is more efficient at real world task the discrepancy of GPU is more like 15% rather than 9% that the video showed.

                                      Like I said, actually read my comment and look at my source before jumping onto the keypad.

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                                        Hemedans, 31 Jul 2025I just gave you examples of modern games where Amd perform ... moreYou're getting on my nerve of your one sided talking. 🤬
                                        Didn't I just give you video link, channel name as reference??
                                        Then why are you claiming I'm talking about proof??? You're just bragging here without actually seeing anything I provide, aren't you??
                                        Here is another proof why E2500 is 20% slow..
                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujlVzo6fHHc