Samsung unveils new 200MP ISOCELL HP5 sensor for phones
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- 29 Oct 2025
DarlingYext, 07 Oct 2025The vivo Y500 Pro will be a midrange model, nothing special... moreWell, it is being used in the best camera phones.
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DarlingYext, 08 Oct 2025Yeah, and they aren't using it in their own phones.They aren't using 1inch sensors in their phones either. Don't make random assumptions.
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Invetor, 08 Oct 2025Samsung uses HP2, which is bigger and better than HP9 and HP5.It's not better lmao, "bigger" doesn't mean "better", that's like saying a 5.0 V8 car is always faster than a 3.0 V6 car. It comes to technology and overall specs like Lenses, materials, etc. The HP2 is old and way worse than a HP9. There are limits and restrictions when it comes to using a Periscope lense, hence why nobody uses "big" sensors for them. The HP5 not only fits perfectly, it is purely designed for it, probably making it way better than the HP3 / HP9 as a 3x Telephoto, but worse than Vivo's Custom HPB, which is also only designed for Persicope Telephotography. Sensor Size says legit Nothing, Vivo also Proved it by miles with the LYT-900
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Anonymous, 08 Oct 2025"Small pixels allowing every common man the power to p... moreWhich is why I clearly said "common man". Because, not everyone has a Panasonic Tz99 ready at any random time. There are ways, but the chances of this happening are slim.
When small pixels in a count of 200-million are given to the noob mobile phone user, everyone has convenience at any time to do anything unless they're stopped.
Clearly, there will be much more cases of people just zooming in on the world's privacy because, yes they can. I'm guessing maybe around 10,000 times more cases.
And you're right about the amount of light captured, but again, I was comparing two different extremes, not combining them. My approach is a big pixel, big sensor, around 12MP is good, a range of 16mm to 80mm (even if it's in steps) is good enough for all my needs.
I know the concept of aperture, I also know its formula (aperture opening/ focal length) and how it works.
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King M., 08 Oct 2025Hey bro. Canned food is good tho. 🙄
Truth is, until phon... moreYou misunderstand. Canned food is cheap and not really intended for heavy manipulation, if what a chef does. If you're just going to eat it out of the can or eat it up a few times, fine.
If you plan on canned ingredients for a nuanced or high quality dish, then you've failed. Unprocessed ingredients are better too with with, both texture and flavor-wise.
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floydb1982, 08 Oct 2025Let's just wait until someone else like YouTube users ... moreI wouldn't trust them for camera criticism.
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- 09 Oct 2025
Fa14bi, 08 Oct 2025You can imagine Water as light and the Sensor as a Whole lo... moreThat's a nice analogy. Good job 👍
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- 09 Oct 2025
I want bigger pixels bro. 1 inch camera or bust
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- 09 Oct 2025
I still remember the 1st smartphone to introduce 200MP camera. I was told that it could take a better pictures of the moon. Turns out after zooming into the moon. The image was blurry! And I was using a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra! What good is this New 200MP ISOCELL HP5 Sensor if the Ai will be the one doing the JOB of EDITING? Making an IMAGE of a Fake moon?
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Invetor, 08 Oct 2025Samsung uses HP2, which is bigger and better than HP9 and HP5.The HP2 is based on older technology and needs to be made cheap.
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- 08 Oct 2025
floydb1982, 08 Oct 2025Let's just wait until someone else like YouTube users ... moreShould be much better than that still, still its not better than its predecessor which is used in the Vico X200 Ultra.
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- 08 Oct 2025
Let's just wait until someone else like YouTube users Margues Brownlee, Mrwhosetheboss, Created by Ella, or even Linus Tech Tips compare the Samsung ISOCELL HP5 mobile sensor up against the mobile sensors that Google, Motorola, or Apple use in there smartphones. Then you will be able to see for yourself from such video reviews if the ISOCELL HP5 is a much better sensor or not.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Oct 2025
Invetor, 08 Oct 2025Samsung uses HP2, which is bigger and better than HP9 and HP5.Yeah, on the main camera but not on either of the telephotos where new sensors are most needed.
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- Fa14bi
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- 08 Oct 2025
Asher45, 08 Oct 2025The advantage of this sensor is its footprint in the case. ... moreYou can imagine Water as light and the Sensor as a Whole lot of buckets.
Lets say you have 200 small Buckets within 0,64m². These buckets will capture the rain and offer probes about what minerals are in that water.
Then you have another 200buckets within 0,5m² that will do the same.
Sure under heavy rain, every bucket will capture enough Water to determine whats inside.
But if its just light rain, then the 200Buckets will have some of them without any water inside, simply because there wasn't enough rain to hit everyone in that small area.
Same Applies to the Sensors, if there is night enough light, some pixels won't capture any light waves, resulting in Noise.
With that, the bigger sensor is simply better, and an 1/1.5 Senser will always get hit by less lightwaves compared to an 1/1.4 or even bigger one.
Bigger Sample Area = More Samples getting cought = Cleaner result.
the resolution is just how many individual samples you capture in said area, but the higher the sample count, the higher the chance that some samples will be left empty and be noise in the result.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Oct 2025
Sam N8 808 owner, 08 Oct 2025You're correct practically and theoretically.
But her... more"Small pixels allowing every common man the power to peek into others' lives any time, and the privacy invasion of this kind."
A Panasonic Tz99 or a Nikon P1100 are cheaper than expensive smartphones and have much, much better capabilities in this regard. Even just a 200mm f/8 lens on a 24 megapixel Aps-c camera will beat every smartphone tele camera regarding distant objects.
And regarding image quality: The effective lens diameter=focal length/f-number determines the amount of light that is captured from a distant object per exposure time, not the pixel size. Small pixels just have the disadvantage that the number of pixels per object is higher, which leads to more read noise per object. But due to analog binning, the read noise is reduced, if one prefers a lower resolution.
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- 08 Oct 2025
The 1/1.4" sensor are kinda stretching the limit on periscope size, 85-100mm is probably the sensible max
200mp + 1/1.56" being smaller with today's periscope lens design might actually be able to do 120-135mm
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- 08 Oct 2025
Fa14bi, 08 Oct 2025If this sensor does not support 200MP Readout at 30FPS, the... moreThe advantage of this sensor is its footprint in the case. If we continue your engine metaphor, this is like a 1990s 3.5L V-6 in a Plymouth Prowler; nearly as much horsepower as the available Magnum V-8 but saving weight and size. this is going to help with the upcoming thin phone trend. ISN'T THAT GREAT NEWS 😭😆
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- 08 Oct 2025
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2025A small pixel size is actually very useful for tele cameras... moreYou're correct practically and theoretically.
But here's the thing: What would you rather want as an ethical company?
1. Big pixels giving pleasing colours, real bg blur, quality pics in a class of its own. Not as big as DSLR, so they're safe, but still big pixels.
2. Small pixels allowing every common man the power to peek into others' lives any time, and the privacy invasion of this kind.
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- Sam N8 808 owner
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- 08 Oct 2025
So, when is this crazy tech coming to Mirrorless/ DSLRs?
Apparently never. They have to deliver genuine quality to genuine photographers, you see.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Oct 2025
unxpctd, 08 Oct 2025What is their obsession with small pixels? These new techno... moreAs I already wrote:
"A small pixel size is actually very useful for tele cameras. The number of pixels you get from a distant object depends on (focal length / pixel size)². So a smaller pixel size can theoretically let you capture more detail when you can't increase the focal length." That's why many smartphone tele cameras use 0.7 or even 0.56 micrometer pixels, which belong to the smallest pixels.
The most important specs for the image quality of distant objects are:
pixels per object (proportional to [focal length/pixel size]² ), effective lens diameter=focal length/f-number, color filter array and microlens array.