Realme GT 8 series release date revealed, performance and battery details teased
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- 20 Oct 2025
Minu, 20 Oct 2025Do notice the fact that corporate law isn't universal,... moreYes I am very well aware of this.There is no such thing as a conglomerate as a separate form of legal entity in major economies like China, the US and the UK. English speaking countries are mostly common law countries (i.e. based on the legal system of England) so their laws would be very similar. A conglomerate is an economic and business concept, not a specific legal entity and I highly doubt there is any legal jurisdiction where this is regarded as a sperate type of legal entity but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Can you name any legal system where a conglomerate is a separate legal entity?
In China the two legal forms of companies are:
A Limited Liability Company (LLC) - 有限责任公司 (Yǒuxiàn Zérèn Gōngsī)
This is the company form for a company that can't be listed on a stock exchange similar to an LTD company (Private company) in the UK for example
Company Limited by Shares (Joint Stock Limited Company) - 股份有限公司 (Gǔfèn Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī)
This would be the standard form for a company that planned to list on a stock exhange as an LLC can't list on a stock exhange (as a private company can't in the UK). In that sense this is a similar form to a public limited company (plc) in the UK (which is a type of company that can list on a stock exchange although most public companies in the UK are not listed).
The deregistration of a holding company as BBK was would not mean the assets of its subsidiaries would be sold. Each subsidiary is a separate legal entity and owns its own assets and each of them would continue to operate as independent legal entities. Actually, it is difficult to determine the exact ownership structure as all of these companies are/were private companies so they don't have to publish this information. There would be no requirement to specify a change in ownership (if there was one) as these are privated owned companies. I can't be sure of the current ownership of the shares in these companies as it's private and doesn't have to be published. I was just explaining the factual situation as regards a conglomerate and deregistration of a company.
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- 20 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025Wow. There are so many misunderstandings of company law in ... moreDo notice the fact that corporate law isn't universal, and may change from region to region. In this case, I've specified my points in a neutral point of view. In BBK's case, there isn't a noted change in ownership for subsidiaries, neither is there a noted liquidation of their assets.
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- 18 Oct 2025
T-Dizzle, 15 Oct 2025I wish this phone was coming to the USA. My wife runs Googl... moreJust buy it from any online site like TradingShenzen, GizTop or Wonda Mobile and have it shiped to your home. Lyca Mobile which runs off of TMobile networks accepts just about any Asian brands of cells on either 5G or 4G speeds. And i know because i used 3 Xiaomis on Lyca just fine. Get the BBK out of your head as it doesn't exist any more since about 3 years and counting.....
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025What don't you get? The honor magic 8 series is not on... moreHonor tries to go for a specific style of sound, so does Xiaomi. So do Samsung, Apple, Vivo and Oppo. Unless they deviate from that sound, i think i have an idea.
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- 17 Oct 2025
jiyen235, 17 Oct 2025nope, but i've also given my justification of my assum... moreWhat don't you get? The honor magic 8 series is not on gsmarena's tool so how could you have listened to it? So you're basing an opinion on a phone you've never heard.
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025I'll ask you again. Have you tried the magic 8 or magi... morenope, but i've also given my justification of my assumptions as well. GSMArena's audio tool is really good and FR graphs give you a really good idea. I don't understand what you don't get about this.
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- 17 Oct 2025
jiyen235, 17 Oct 2025cus you literally said Honor's stuff sounds better and... moreI'll ask you again. Have you tried the magic 8 or magic 8 pro?
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025No. They were larger higher quality speakers. Xiaomi market... morecus you literally said Honor's stuff sounds better and their house sound is tuned to be more fun than accurate/clean sounding than Xiaomi's
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- 17 Oct 2025
jiyen235, 17 Oct 2025ig it was tuned to be more "fun" or something as ... moreNo. They were larger higher quality speakers. Xiaomi marketed it as their music phone with the S standing for sound. Why do you always make assumptions about phones you have never tried and know nothing about?
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025The Xiaomi 10s was the one with the exceptional speakers a ... moreig it was tuned to be more "fun" or something as that's what you like
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- 17 Oct 2025
jiyen235, 17 Oct 2025tuning and engineering are more important. Yes phones are s... moreThe Xiaomi 10s was the one with the exceptional speakers a couple of steps ahead of the Xiaomi 10 pro
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025Yeah. I had the Xiaomi 10s before and that one did have awe... moretuning and engineering are more important. Yes phones are small and bigger speakers will generally be better but without proper engineering, the sound will be horrendous. And I generally think these are marketing collabs but Xiaomi's ones are so good in terms of distortion and tuning that i would say the collab is doing something.
And although the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro was exceptional and stuff, they also didnt have water resistance. So keep that in mind as well. The new ultras are ~90% of the same quality as that, and that's a big thing imo, the fact that we have both water resistance and exceptional sound.
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- 17 Oct 2025
jiyen235, 17 Oct 2025i trust the gsmarena sound samples. They're 90% of the... moreYeah. I had the Xiaomi 10s before and that one did have awesome speakers but I still think they haven't surpassed that to this day. Vivo's speakers have never been that good especially on the x series. The x300 series is not great either but the pro is a good bit better than the standard x300. I think that most of these partnerships are mainly for marketing. The speakers will be supplied by the same suppliers but still they do tend to include better hardware (like bigger cavity speakers) when they make the partnerships I guess as they know there will be more attention paid to the speakers when they are putting a certain branding on the phone and maybe they work harder on the tuning. It's all stuff they could do anyway though with or without any partnership
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 17 Oct 2025I'll agree to disagree with you so. I can't unde... morei trust the gsmarena sound samples. They're 90% of the way there to how i hear things when i get phones. I've tried iPhones, Samsungs and now even my X200 Ultra and the sound signature is extremely similar to what i heard in the samples.
I've listened to the original songs with my headphones to have an idea of how the songs sound by themselves and how the speakers reproduce the sound. Xiaomis are basically 1:1 apart from low end frequencies.
Unless Honor partners with Genelec, I don't really think they can compete with Xiaomi. Xiaomi's past speakers were tuned by Harman/Kardon. Harman international owns multiple top tier audio companies and does its own research which IEMs and headphones stick by or at least reference in order to tune their products. Bose is nice but Harmon's stuff is otherworldly. Even their modestly priced bluetooth speakers are exceptional. Like the Go Play+3. That thing sounds astonishing for a "portable" speaker. Harmon knows what it's doing.
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- 17 Oct 2025
jiyen235, 17 Oct 2025bigger speakers arent necessarily better. Xiaomi's spe... moreI'll agree to disagree with you so. I can't understand how you think that if you listened to it side by side with some other phones but everyone is entitled to their opinion. In any case you haven't tried the Honor magic 8 series so how can you comment on a phone's speakers you haven't even listened to? In my opinion the speakers on the Redmi k80 ultra are better than the Xiaomi 15 ultra. The upcoming Redmi k90 pro max will also be interesting for sound quality as it's rumored they are focusing on sound and are partnering with BOSE this time. I'm not saying the Realme gt8 pro will have excellent speakers but they will be relatively large so I intended to focus more on your point about space for the battery when I mentioned the speaker size as the larger speakers take up more space
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- 17 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 16 Oct 20251/1.56". Same hp5 sensor as the just launched find x9 ... morebigger speakers arent necessarily better. Xiaomi's speakers produce the most natural sounding sound with the least amount of distortion of all the brands. Honor's phones have a more "exciting" sound with more distortion but at least they get louder and reach lower frequencies. But at the very least with their Ultra, Xiaomi has the best quality speaker on a non gaming phone.
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- 17 Oct 2025
Shimori, 16 Oct 2025I have a GT2 pro as well, did you experience getting the gr... moreNo, I haven't had any issues. Sorry if you did.
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- 17 Oct 2025
Minu, 16 Oct 2025BBK is obviously considered a "multi-conglomerate"... moreWow. There are so many misunderstandings of company law in your points. First of all there is no such legal form as a 'multi-conglomerate'. There are different types of companies depending on the jurisdiction but BBK was a company. A "deregistered" entity (struck off the official register of companies) is, by definition, defunct. It ceases to exist as a legal person. It cannot own assets, sign contracts, or continue business in any form. The moment a parent company is formally deregistered/dissolved, its legal life ends.
"...but the entity is the same, regardless of their legal existence."
In the eyes of the law, a parent company and its subsidiaries are distinct legal entities. They are not "the same entity." This is the whole basis of company law. Each company is a separate legal entity and can own its own assets, enter into its own contracts etc. For example:
BBK Electronics Corp. was one legal person.
Guangdong OPPO Mobile Telecommunications Corp., Ltd. is a separate legal person.
They have separate legal obligations, can sue and be sued independently, and can have different ownership structures. The success or failure of one does not legally dictate the success or failure of the others.
"All BBK subsidiaries continue their course of business, even under different brand names, hence there wouldn't be a legal obligation to refer BBK's sub-brands by their multi-conglomerate branding."
Branding is a marketing choice, not a legal requirement (outside of specific licensing agreements). The legal identity of the company manufacturing an Oppo phone is and was "Guangdong OPPO Mobile Telecommunications," not "BBK," regardless of who owns it.
"If BBK is considered 'defunct', Oppo, Realme, Vivo and OnePlus... wouldn't continue business operations." If a parent company is defunct, its assets (including its shares in subsidiaries) are liquidated. This could lead to the subsidiaries being sold to a new owner. The subsidiaries themselves do not automatically become defunct. Their legal existence continues under new ownership. The cessation of a parent company does not force the closure of its legally independent subsidiaries.
Having said all this I can't be certain that BBK no longer exists. It says it was deregistered on Baidu wiki but there isn't much information about it online. It doesn't seem to have a website anymore though.
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- 16 Oct 2025
Aierlan, 16 Oct 2025If a company is deregistered it means it is removed from th... moreBBK is obviously considered a "multi-conglomerate", not merely a "company" due to their substantial number of subsidiaries. A now-deregistered multi-conglomerate can continue business under seperate names, but the entity is the same, regardless of their legal existence.
At the same time, if a business entity is defunct, it no longer continues business operations. All BBK subsidiaries continue their course of business, even under different brand names, hence there wouldn't be a legal obligation to refer BBK's sub-brands by their multi-conglomerate branding. If BBK is considered "defunct", Oppo, Realme, Vivo and OnePlus (excluding the now-defunct Neffos brand in partnership with TP-Link) wouldn't continue business operations.