Valve announces new Steam Machine and Steam Controller
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Nov 2025
It's not PC, its a console for playing steam games with support of mouse and keyboard
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- 15 Nov 2025
HYPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: I forgot that I already commented here, but anyway... HYPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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- 14 Nov 2025
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2025Most games are GPU intensive, so a 6-core CPU should be fin... moreIt should be fine, yeah, so are six core CPUs in gaming PCs. That being said they are slowly being replaced by eight core chips and given that the Ally X I have has 8 cores this seems like a weird choice. I doubt that they save much money on it either, the difference between the six and eight core chips nowadays in cost is fairly low
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Nov 2025
PS Vita, 14 Nov 2025Steam Deck is not a flop when the PC handheld market is sti... moreSteam is DRM, you don't own most of the games on there. I'd buy games on there to support the devs, but I'd then get a pirated DRM free version that doesn't need steam to launch to "own" it.
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- 14 Nov 2025
Anonymous, 14 Nov 2025As I said, I didn't suggest that a product had to sell... moreCommon man, never meant to attack you. You just dont have a valid argument and act offended.
I never sold even 1 product, it was clearly rhetorical question. Stop been offended by everything.
You can compare switch and steam deck. You need context. If Nintendo sold 4 million Switches they go bankrupt because thats all their business and they need to push it as hard as possible. Steam Deck is side venture for Valve. And like it or not it's doing pretty good, being best selling PC handheld (a new market segment, that would only grow)
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- 14 Nov 2025
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2025As far as I know, PC emulation on Android uses Wine.It uses both. Proton's a wine fork anyway.
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- 14 Nov 2025
Anonymous, 14 Nov 2025As I said, I didn't suggest that a product had to sell... moreSteam Deck is not a flop when the PC handheld market is still very niche and it is the best-selling PC handheld of all-time. If Steam Deck is a flop, then every phone that isn't an iPhone or Galaxy is a flop since they usually sell at least 50M to 150M per each generation.
I look at the Steam Deck similar to the very first iPhone that sold only 6M units. Steam Deck isn't even available in retail stores and people want to compare everything to Nintendo. Eventually, the iPhone sales grew and grew right after that original iPhone by almost tenfold. The purpose of that first gen was to get people locked into Apple's ecosystem.
That is what Valve did with their first Steam Deck. Future generations will outsell that first Deck as more people are locked into Steam's ecosystem and would prefer that platform over any other PC platform. The Nintendo 64 and GameCube sold a fraction of the PS1 and PS2. But Nintendo came out as profitable as Sony because they didn't deal with piracy and didn't sell their units at a loss.
Steam Deck is not a flop. That is like saying a little boutique shop is a flop because it doesn't sell as well as Walmart. It's equivalent to that first iPhone or first Nexus/Pixel. It's a gateway drug to SteamOS. Valve is a software/service company first the way Google first started. Valve is still in the baby stages with hardware.
Valve's portfolio and ecosystem will continue to grow the more gamers prefer SteamOS and they build their game library into the hundreds or thousands thanks to more affordable games to buy in the Steam Store.
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Nov 2025
Just me, 13 Nov 2025Never personally attacked you. Just asked a question to sho... moreAs I said, I didn't suggest that a product had to sell 100 million units to not be a failure. I don't know how you reached that conclusion. You didn't seem to argue in good faith. Asking another person if he is a failure because he doesn't sell a lot of products is silly as one's profession may not involve selling products, and people with common sense won't compare performance of an individual and performance of a big corporation.
Anyway, as far as I know, Valve never said that the sales of the Steam Deck far exceeded its expectations. 4 million units in about 3 years is a very low number. On the average, 3 months of the Nintendo Switch sales are about the lifetime sales of the Steam Deck. Nintendo doesn't sell Nintendo Switch systems at a loss, by the way.
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- 14 Nov 2025
Valve's new Steam Machine is their second attempt at it. They tried it 10 years ago but it flopped like the Apple Pippin. But ever since the Steam Deck's release in late February 2022 and the OLED model in November 2023, Valve has gained a lot more clout and popularity as a hardware maker that they will get more people excited for their new products.
I don't think this "GabeCube" would sell if it wasn't for the Steam Deck's growing popularity in the PC handheld space. Steam Deck will never compare to a Switch 2 in sales but that's okay. Popularity doesn't equate to quality. I am in with Valve's ecosystem that it's almost mandatory for me to get this new Steam Machine and the controller. And I like that it has expandable storage. I can swap the microSD from my Deck onto the GabeCube and all my games in that card will show up. I love that PC-like convenience.
The big mystery is still the price. If it was a $500 device for the 512 GB one, that would be amazing. That's only $50 more than a Switch 2 and $200 cheaper than the PS5 Pro but is more powerful than both of them. RDNA 3 is still newer than the RDNA 2 the PS5 Pro has. It would be a first day pre-order for me. A Day 1 thing. I wish GameStop would offer it. I would sell a bunch of Switch Lites and Switch OLEDs to get trade-in value for it like I did with my Switch 2.
The controller is another must-buy. Drift-resistance sticks and 35h battery life harking back to the PS3 controller. That's at least 3.5x longer than DualShock 4 and DualSense. It would also make a great controller for smartphones when trying to emulate games from it. This announcement really came out of nowhere, didn't it? I heard about rumors of the home console but I didn't expect the announcement to be yesterday. It's similar to the announcement of the Steam Deck OLED two years ago. It just dropped out of nowhere.
I actually haven't touched my Steam Deck or Switch 2 for 1.5 months now. I got so addicted to playing Mario Kart World's KO Tour online that I was neglecting my dog. I swore off to never do that again and haven't gamed on my handhelds ever since. Haven't even commented on gaming channels. But this announcement is bringing me back to talking about games again. This is great news for people already so invested in Valve's ecosystem. We just need to know the price. My guess is $700 to $800 for the 512 GB and over $1K for the 2 TB.
Not a lot of people are paying attention to the Steam Frame but it seems Linus is loving it and it's VR done right. All the attention is towards the Steam Machine. I just saw the dimensions of the Nintendo GameCube and it's similar to the Valve GabeCube. It's like chopping the Xbox Series X in half. It's a cool-looking device. It's like some GameCube 2 mixed with the OG PS4 light strips ala Night Rider (K.I.T.T.). Need my GabeCube already. The box to outbox the Xbox.
RIP Xbox
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Nov 2025
patoka, 13 Nov 2025I think it is since this September that gamehub uses proton... moreI didn't know about that. Anyway, by failure, I mean financially. The Steam Deck OLED is a decent handheld PC.
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- 13 Nov 2025
it's an interesting idea. not quite up to scratch for an actual release. the cpu will be alright for the linux/kde just not for very long at that low tdp [it may already not be if it comes with ubuntu 25 which is wayland not x11 like 24 lts]. the gpu is not quite up to the job properly either, even if the 28 cu's can handle the graphical work with 8gb of vram, as the outputs are both out of date now. dp 1.4 has the bandwidth for 4k at 120hz not 240hz with 5.1+ audio, the hdmi 2.0 though does not, it will manage 1440 at 120hz with 5.1+ audio but not 4k. both though are now surpassed by dp 2.0 and hdmi even more by 2.3 [2.1 is now the old version]. so to me it is kinda half-baked and not really worth the money.
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- 13 Nov 2025
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2025Personal attack is unnecessary and uncalled for. I didn... moreNever personally attacked you. Just asked a question to show you that your logic is flawed in this case.
Steam Deck is never meant to be mainstream device. It was Valve's way to showcase it's SteamOS 3.0.
And again, for companies that rely on selling you hardware (othen at loss) before they can start making profits from you by selling you games 4 millions is indeed a flop.
Valve doesn't have this problem. Device like this can only boost your profit, and indeed a lot of people that bought Steam Deck report that they start buying more games through stream after the purchase. And 4 million is much more than Valve expectations, almost pushing the device into mainstream category.
So calling Steam Deck a flop is just wrong and seems like blunt hate.
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- 13 Nov 2025
Anonymous, 13 Nov 2025As far as I know, PC emulation on Android uses Wine.I think it is since this September that gamehub uses proton as compatibility layer. I was just playing Silksong on my honor v5 from my cloud save on Steam and this is all possible because Valve created the Steam Deck and supported the Proton development, so no, the Steam Deck is not a failure - it opened the gates to proper game support on Linux and soon out phones and tablets will be the gaming handhelds
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- 13 Nov 2025
Superpower2030, 13 Nov 2025Development of proton helps android. Its used for windows g... moreAs far as I know, PC emulation on Android uses Wine.
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Just me, 13 Nov 2025Nintendo can't sell you games if they don't sell ... morePersonal attack is unnecessary and uncalled for. I didn't suggest that a product that sold less than 100 million units was a failure. I was takling about mainstream gaming devices. The PSP sold over 80 milllion units, and it was a success. It's generally accepted that consoles that have lifetime sales of about 20 million units or less are failures.
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Anonymous, 13 Nov 2025Wish granted,it will be starting 499-599 dollars for smalle... moreWe'll se about that. Linus said that Valve suggested they might be pricing it like a PC and not selling it at a loss, because it's practically a mini PC and companies could exploit a subsidised pricing and, for instance, buying a lot for company use and never purchasing any games.
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- 13 Nov 2025
Mills, 13 Nov 2025Hoping that it's cheaper than 650, maybe 700 dollars, ... moreWish granted,it will be starting 499-599 dollars for smaller storage size version because Valve will not need to make profit on hardware, they want people to buy their games from Steam!
They saw with steam deck that getting the price low as possible for good product is the key.
Gaben hates Windows and Steam OS is his big plan to get alternative to Windows!
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- 13 Nov 2025
The gampad is weird looking but at least the joystics are in center and not like on xBox style i hate the most where one joystick is in a place where it's comfortable and the left one is in the corner so it wont be comfortable as especially when need to use the buttons behind the gamepad like L1 and L2 button.
The machine is nice too but a bit low on VRAM. I can't understand why can't they have more of it when the GPU be basically made spacial for the box anyways. Or make a slot to add more VRAM like we can do with the basic RAM. So just get to add more VRAM as the rest of the GPU seems to be good enough. It's also a part where they can milk more money
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- 13 Nov 2025
The spec kinda underwhelming with it comes only with 8GB of VRAM where 8GB is struggling to handle 1080p let alone 4K on nowadays game, sure it's interesting we get to see something different but the differences is not on the console level differences it's not worth if its too pricey