Apple A8 SoC in iPhone 6 rumored to come with 2 GHz CPU
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- Anonymous
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- 12 Jul 2014
Android user's comments shows their knowledge is limiting.
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- 12 Jul 2014
FreezeGame, 12 Jul 2014The resolution itself isn't the only factor. For Instance, ... moreThe GPU outputs to the frame buffer. It does not care if its connected to a 4" or 40" display. DPI has nothing to do with GPU performance, resolution (size of frame buffer) does.
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- AnonD-1825
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- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-277756, 12 Jul 2014That's called cherry picking and in science, as in logic, i... more"Note 10 release date: August 2012"
It was 2014 edition, difficulties to read? :) yes very pathetic performance for 2014 device
Those devices came sametime ;) but i can also chose iPad 3 and showing the same game http://youtu.be/nnIKzfk5VEk so are you happy now? This iPad is 1 and half older yet it beats the note 2014 edition.
It is what is, no matter what you try to say or make excuses, android gaming performance is very bad and always been.
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- AnonD-45523
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- 12 Jul 2014
I dont care bout specs....the iphone still isn't able to do lot of things that android can.
so its a big no
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- AnonD-277756
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- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-1825, 12 Jul 2014"I really hope you Apple fans are learning something f... moreThat's called cherry picking and in science, as in logic, its quite laughable.
Also...
Note 10 release date: August 2012
Ipad air release date: November 2013
Still comparing Apples to Oranges? Might as well compare last years AMD GPU offerings to this years Nvidia offerings. Fair and perfectly logical right? RIGHT?
*Rollseyes*
As of after this comment, you're officialy on my "won't bother anymore with nonsense and fallacies list" Duel, gratz!
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- darkraver
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- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-1825, 12 Jul 2014IPhone 5S is smooth and galaxy S5 is laggy like all android... moreAndroid laggy? Of course people think so because lagdroid Samsung is a reference....here have a look at this android:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7dUCl5-ybo
Imagine what it would do with quad core 64bit SoC.... ;-)
Never compare with samsung....compare with some quality please
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- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-146024, 12 Jul 2014That's a shame on your knowledge not Apple. When iPhone 5S ... moreThere are so many posts here whilst the majority are on point some are just random key strokes
The title is "Apple A8 SoC in iPhone 6 rumored to come with 2 GHz CPU"
The operative word is "RUMOURED"
My opinion is addressing the article as is and from that forming an opinion and on 19/09/2014 come back and say "I told you so!
So without to much explanation you can have 19/09/2014 NOW
The PPI of both iPhone6 and iPhone air will be above RETINA DISPLAY 33O (400+ PPI no)
Since Apple went Dual Core with the IP4S clock speed has increased by only 300MHZ and Ram double to 1Gb where it remains on the iPhone5S
"Apple A8 SoC in iPhone 6 rumored to come with 2 GHz CPU"
@ Xiao Xiao whilst you list the all the Flagship phones as QUAD CORE and all above 2GHz one serious omission
If Apple increases RAM also it need not go to 2GHz to do this
Apple no doubt can get 2GB of Ram @ 1.5GHz and so far only ONE other manufacturer is offering 2GB with a Dual core processor Blackberry! all others are Quad http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_z10-5251.php
Iphone6 1.5GHz Dual Core A8SoC, 4.7" Retina display FACT
I told you so!
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- AnonD-1825
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- 12 Jul 2014
FreezeGame, 12 Jul 2014The resolution itself isn't the only factor. For Instance, ... more"I really hope you Apple fans are learning something from my posts, because I am truly schooling you. "
Schooling? What a joke :)
So much useless words, still end of the day iOS users play smooth games and android users laggy games :D
I just found this http://youtu.be/GVJBALa2M2w galaxy note 2014 edition vs iPad Air sonic racing game performance video. Android devices crappy performance can still surprise me, that game isnt even that good looking but still lags the whole time with note 10 :D with Air of course the performance is perfectly smooth.
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- rM3
- 12 Jul 2014
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2014Apple has always been more about striving for the best 'com... moreIMO, stock android is optimized pretty well. It's hard to beat when setup properly. Skinned OS's often hold it back (Touchwiz, Optimus, Color OS, etc.), but even still, the performance of current devices which have those UI's are amazing.
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FYI, did you know that Formula 1 cars engines have become smaller and smaller? Yet their performance keep on increasing. For 2014, this is further shown, where they are moving from 2.4l V8 engines to 1.6l V6 engines.
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That can be compared to die fabrications for CPU/GPU's. They have become smaller and smaller while increasing performance. e.g. 28nm, 20nm, 14nm, etc.
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This is opposite to Samsung's approach for example, to the point it 'cheats' in benchmarks. Understandable, as benchmark performance was one reason Galaxy was amongst the first Androids to rise and keep its dominant position.
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See, that's something that I don't agree with. Right now, browsing the net, my system is running cool & efficient. The moment I start up 3DMark/PCMark, all hell breaks loose! Depending on the test, all CPU/GPU cores scale to their highest clocks. ATI/nVidia even have profiles for these applications to trigger this extreme behavior, ensuring that users get the highest result possible.
That's not enough for me though. I proceed to manually ramp up fan speeds, enter the bios and safely push everything to its lowest/highest, most stable voltage/clocks, and then really test hard. Benchmarking without giving it everything my system has to offer is a waste of time. What's the point?
I don't see it as cheating. Mobile devices should react the same. Samsung and HTC did right by having benchmark apps trigger higher clock speeds. From the moment I rooted my Note 3, no benchmark test has ever been run without using Trickster MOD or something to increase my CPU/GPU frequencies first. No way am I sharing a test with the world without them getting the very best of what my device can do.
Edit: 8:15am (EST) where I am. Off today, but gotta get some sleep. Lol. I'll pick up from here tomorrow.
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- Anonymous
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- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-277756, 12 Jul 2014Agreed for the most part, except the "4 inch is enough... moreYup, I never agreed with the 4 inch is enough fallacy either, and am glad that Tim Cook is pushing Apple in a better direction, more open and pragmatic in certain instances.
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AnonD-1825, 12 Jul 2014IPhone 5S is smooth and galaxy S5 is laggy like all android... moreStill stressing that strawman about the ipad air. Still being illogical about apples vs orange comparisons when you could easily do apples to apples using a free resolution changer app ( "there's an app for that" is your motto right? ;) ).
But since it would then render your illogical arguments useless, you don't. More logical fallacies.
You can't win a debate with fallacies, unless you debate with someone who isn't versed in basic logic and rhetoric or unless you don't mind being wrong in front of a middle school audience in the playground, but getting cheered on anyway and pronounced the "winner" because they can't reason logically and hence side with you through sheer ignorance and lack of proper basic trivium education. Deal with it. ;)
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- Anonymous
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- 12 Jul 2014
FreezeGame, 12 Jul 2014I most certainly will as I don't have a problem with giving... moreFair enough I suppose.
However, its also important to point out that Apple doesnt really strive to destroy benchmark tests, in fact they scale back performance in some cases, as they always seek out the best balance between battery life and performance. If nothing lags, or even glitches, then why the need for more power when it can off set battery life. A point in efficiency which I happen to believe in as well.
This is opposite to Samsung's approach for example, to the point it 'cheats' in benchmarks. Understandable, as benchmark performance was one reason Galaxy was amongst the first Androids to rise and keep its dominant position. Only after 3 generations are rivals now finally undoing Samsung's work.
it is only a preference, but I do prefer the elegant approach to engineering Apple adopts.
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- AnonD-277756
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- 12 Jul 2014
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2014Apple has always been more about striving for the best 'com... moreAgreed for the most part, except the "4 inch is enough"/512kb oughta be enough for everybody fallacy.
If they want to keep the same ppi at 4.7 inch and 5.5, they're gonna need to increase the resolution dramatically. Thus we could say the only reason the iPhones were "efficient" was because of their tiny screens.
At these sizes, keeping the same ppi, they'll need to have respectively:
2.3 inch x 326ppi
4.1 inch x 326ppi
750*1337 for the 4.7 incher
2.7 inch x 326ppi
4.8 inch x 326ppi
880*1565 for the 5.5 incher
It will be interesting to see how they fare in the middle to big boys playground seeing that the UI smoothness and 3d performance will be stressed and that at 1080p offscreen tests, previous iPhones weren't revolutionary, but merely up to par.
- FreezeGame
- rM3
- 12 Jul 2014
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2014Thank you for 'schooling' us o wise one. However, even Andr... moreI most certainly will as I don't have a problem with giving credit where it's deserved.
However, if the iPhone releases at its current rumored specs, it is going to have to destroy performance tests. Scoring even, or just a few thousand ahead isn't going to get an encore from anyone, especially with the G3 and Find 7 putting up great numbers at QHD/534 ppi w/ SD 801 SoC's. That is extremely difficult and exceptional. The SD 805 is even better.
Let's not forget about Samsung's Exynos 5433, which will be in a version of the Note 4 this September. It's at the top of the food chain, and competing directly with the iPhone 5.5. Apple will have it's hand full.
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- Anonymous
- nCh
- 12 Jul 2014
Apple has always been more about striving for the best 'combination' of technology, resulting in (hopefully), a smooth, and pleasant experience.
The 'retina' moniker was introduced merely to show that beyond certain resolutions (at a certain distance), it is superfluous to introduce anymore. So, it is more efficient to stop at a high resolution, whereby the eye no longer differentiates pixels, and then concentrate on smooth performance. This is how Apple is outperforming many flagships, by still using a dual core chip, while you have quad and eight core monsters in rival phones just to compensate.
So while the Samsung approach can be called 'powerful', the Apple approach is aptly described as 'elegant' or 'efficient'.
FYI, did you know that Formula 1 cars engines have become smaller and smaller? Yet their performance keep on increasing. For 2014, this is further shown, where they are moving from 2.4l V8 engines to 1.6l V6 engines.
It is the sheer optimisation and engineering that results in the performance gain. Something to ponder.
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- Anonymous
- nCh
- 12 Jul 2014
FreezeGame, 12 Jul 2014The resolution itself isn't the only factor. For Instance, ... moreThank you for 'schooling' us o wise one. However, even Android phones with similar tech specs have differing performances. Thus the existence of benchmarks.
While you are knowledgeable, one also has to contend with facts, and truth. So should the A8 indeed turn out superior performance, will you acknowledge it on the day?
One certainly hopes so.
- FreezeGame
- rM3
- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-1825, 12 Jul 2014IPhone 5S is smooth and galaxy S5 is laggy like all android... moreThe resolution itself isn't the only factor. For Instance, the iPad Air @ 1536 x 2048 pixels, 9.7 inches (~264 ppi pixel density) doesn't have much of a challenge as the pixels per inch are extremely low. That same resolution on a 5.5 inch screen would require the GPU to process 465 ppi. I guarantee you that it would be a different story.
Increasing the number of pixels in a display will always tax the GPU more. Higher ppi screens tax fragment shaders (which do the processing for each pixel) on the GPU more. That means you get worse performance for the same GPU because "all" applications have more pixels that need to be processed.
It also means that anything which actually gets near the limits of the hardware (primarily games and graphic benchmarks), you're going to hit those limits much more quickly. Especially in games, as the fragment shaders are almost always going to be the primary bottleneck.
So, again, even the iPhone 6, rumored @ 960 x 1704 pixels, 4.70 inches / 5.5 inches (~416 / ~355 ppi pixel density) is not on par with current high-end FHD devices.
I really hope you Apple fans are learning something from my posts, because I am truly schooling you. Read back a few pages and educate yourselves.
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- AnonD-1825
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- 12 Jul 2014
AnonD-277756, 12 Jul 2014How many times do we have to tell you that this test is log... moreIPhone 5S is smooth and galaxy S5 is laggy like all android devices in heavy games and no it does nothing to do with resolution, if andro devices cant handle their screens it just shows that android devices have underpowered GPU, iPad Air can easily handle the big resoulution, so just deal with it ;)
Its not flawed you just cant handle the truth that iPhone is lot more powerful than any android device and after new metal graphic api the difference is going to be even bigger
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- Anonymous
- nCh
- 12 Jul 2014
Fact is, Apple caught the entire industry with their pants down, which is admitted by senior executives in a few leading rival companies.
The naysaying is useless, as all your companies wish, and are now trying their best to catch up to. Qualcomm exec came with a response saying it was a gimmick, and immediately got fired as Qualcomm were also moving to 64bit.
Samsung immediately promised that its next Galaxy smartphones would be 64bit (probably in a fit of rage, not thinking that Android would also need to support it), and sadly just empty promises.
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- Anonymous
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- 12 Jul 2014
That being said, there are benefits to be gained:
For one thing, 64-bit integer math will allow the A7 to execute operations much faster than the 32-bit A6. “The fact that the A7 has twice as many processor registers means that more operations can occur without the processor using main memory, which is slower to access,”
Carl Howe, VP of research and data sciences at the Yankee Group told AllThingsD. “This means that for some codes, the A7 will be twice as fast (or faster depending on how many memory accesses the original code had) to run code because the processor doesn’t have to use main memory as much.”