Nokia N90
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- skater42
- U2N
- 12 Aug 2005
@ MOE
Nokia isn't necessarily "slow" in developing the technology, with their profile and tech departments I think they catch on fairly quickly.
If you have a look at the typical NOKIA market you will find that the European Market has very different preferences and priorities to the Asian or American.
Japan & Korea brought out their first 3G CDMA network in 2000 & 2001 which was due to local developments which Nokia wasn't able to participate in due to incompatible infrastructure in Europe. We didn't and don't have CDMA2000/ 1xRTT/ EV-DO and the WCDMA market was first publicly released in 2003/2004.
People in Europe didn't require any high-tech phones due to missing infrastructure, and the Americans were similar. 3G in Korea & Japan opened a new world for new requirements (better cameras, screens for video talk etc.) which drove the development for the new Generation phones.
Now that we're all getting on one level with 3G, and T-Online trialing the HSDPA in Germany, I also believe Nokia will catch up with new technology fairly quickly. Vodafone is on top of that a big connector between East & West, importing successful Toshiba & Sharp models to Europe.
Brand loyalty also kept Nokia from going too fast on 65/262k screens etc. People love Nokia because it's the "pioneer" in Europe and had established itself fairly well.
No matter how "tech" the competitors were, people were just too plain lazy to try anything new.
Again, with our existing 2G/2.5 G back then no one used a phone for more than a call or SMS. Now, with better cameras & networks this is changing.
skater42
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- Moe
- 4uW
- 12 Aug 2005
Ellendil i think u should know ur facts before saying something. The only reason Nokia sells more is becuase in U.S. where i live SE doesnt ahve a big market. Samsung, Nokia, LG and Motorola control most of the market. Only couple SE phones can be found by any carrier. U.S. is filled with consumers that is why SE should market their phones in U.S. more.
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- Ellendil
- Sf9
- 12 Aug 2005
This is funny this discussion of funboys which phons are better Ericsson or Nokia - the discussion with no real arguments and/or denying obvious truths.
It seems that the ultimate judgement coms from the market - Nokia sells 4-5 times more phones than Ericsson and its market share is growing, unlike Ericsson.
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- Dave
- nr9
- 12 Aug 2005
Nokia N90 is really revolution. The best display I ever seen, best video, good foto and big, comfortable keyboard.
SE k750 is just like Sony Cyber-shot with the phone function...
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- Moe
- 4uW
- 12 Aug 2005
I have to admit the guy below me has some good points about SE. Nokia is slow in everything. Most of their phones were running on 4096 color when most SE Phones were running on 65k color. And then eventually Nokia caught on. But Nokia takes time to come out with technology. Till then everyone has a similar phone from som other company. Another thing is Nokia makes some really crappy looking phones and overprices them. Some phones look good though. But still only a dumb person would spend crap load of money to buy a ugly phone.
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- ryanloh
- PFM
- 12 Aug 2005
@Sonners u really never ever tried using S.E phone before~!!! when k700i came out it already beat most of e phone in e market. it has everything from bluetooth to mp4 video etc... everything is easy to manage on SE phones. processor is second to none~~~~~!!!!!!! reliable, improvement over screen n sound. look at nokia, takes time to load a file, improve slowly in everything, come out with so many crap phone, screen n sound still not much improvement only recently. files/apps r not easy to delete cause it's store inside file manager, cause it'll confuse ppl where e actual file/s r store. hang so many time. y r they call smartphones in e first place???
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- Moe
- 4u8
- 12 Aug 2005
haha it is funny how soo many people are trying to defend for the N90- THE BRICK. I dont hate the phone but seriously the size will make my pants drop from one side. I think people should wait for the other N-series phones. I want to get the N91. That baby looks good but in the U.S. there is no 3G so that function is a waste. Anyway my point is this phone is not worth $1100 maybe a around $600-750 but definetly not $1100. Haahah that is a laptop. Wouldi rather buy a laptop or the N90. HMMMMMM tough decision.
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- Nanda
- PFM
- 11 Aug 2005
Thanks Ellendil,
The last link you gave has lots of pictures taken by N90, which are amazing.
Observer, you are obsolutely right! The pictures shown in that link are given with full EXIF information. Can you please go through them and let us know your thoughts!? :)
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- jo
- Pv9
- 11 Aug 2005
i kind agree with observer i have seen lots of pics of the n90 they never looked overexpo, as they were here, and some even looked better than the k750i, plus with the n90 you dont have to set anything, i imagine he spent alot of time setting the camera of the w800 to take those pics =P with nokia's was a breeze
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- Ellendil
- Sf9
- 11 Aug 2005
some more N90 pictures - ( this is an original source, the previous was just a copy):
http://www.pbase.com/exatbodi
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- Ellendil
- Sf9
- 11 Aug 2005
how can you compare N90 and k750
k750 is just a plain phone while N90 is a SMARTPHONE and this is what makes the difference (and if U do not see/appreciate the difference between plain phone and a smartphone I wonder what are you doing here on a mobile fans site)
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- Ellendil
- Sf9
- 11 Aug 2005
If U want to see some pictures taken with N90 go there:
http://www.mml.com.tw/topicdetail.php?f=192&t=50680
there is huge difference between pictures on GSM Arena and those, I have no idea why
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- Sonners
- Sbf
- 11 Aug 2005
The W800 camera may be better but this phone, but the N90 is a smartphone. It is richer in functionality so this is why it is more expensive. You people who like the W800 for it's camera are talking rubbish if you think that phone beats the N90. The N90 has far better video, symbian OS, a far better screen and it has 3G. I'm sorry but those people who the camera is everything need to get their facts right. Don't say the W800 is the best just because of photo quality. Remember Sony Ericsson also has the worst reliability record as Nokia is joint best with Samsung, and for those idiots who anger me every time I read the reviews saying this phone hasn't got vibration, THE PHONE HAS GOT VIBRATION!!! Why can't you people understand that. My friends got a Sony Ericsson phone and even he agrees compared to a Nokia series 60 smartphone Sony Ericsson's operating system loses every time. People have also been dissapointed with the N90 because it doesn't have an FM Radio. IT'S A 3G PHONE!!! which means you can get the FM Radio using the Internet so if you get a 3G contract you can use the Radio for free. This phone is not a loser. It is the phone with the most functions on the market today and in my eyes Sony Ericsson should be jealouse of Nokia for making this model, but no Sony Ericsson would rather design models just for selling in their millions. It started with the T610 and their latest addition is the W800. Why do they keep on designing products with good camera's but never back it up with anything else. People have called the W800 a music phone but all you get is a 512mb memory stick instead of a hard-drive. To me it sounds like they have cheated. However though the phone is still worthy of being put in the top models today becasue of the camera and music capabilities so I suppose if people don't have the money to buy the N90 they can get a W800 or K750. The only thing I have to congradulate Sony Ericsson on is the prices of their handsets.
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- DisconnectingPeople
- PyI
- 11 Aug 2005
after all the drama and delay, ironically the SE W800 beat this N90 hands down on photo quality.
Nokia, better start connecting people again.
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- alecx
- mAW
- 11 Aug 2005
no no no, it ain't unfare, the quality of w800's pictures r way better than n90's. i always was and am a nokia fan but in this case SE rulz the world of pictures :)
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- PIQ
- 11 Aug 2005
Oh thought your might be interested in this
Shortage reported for Nokia N90
Nokia Corp. is seeing shortages of its much-promoted N90 camera phone because of strong initial demand, reports the WSJ.
"The Nokia N90 features a digital camera with a lens from manufacturer Carl Zeiss.
The product went on sale world-wide July 20. The N90 is the first in a series of handsets designed to reinvigorate Nokia's product range at the top end of the market."
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- PIQ
- 11 Aug 2005
Woohoo bought the phone already after a long wait, I was gonna blow off if it did not make it this month. Purchased at Sg.Wang (KL Malaysia) for RM3.2k (USD850) on the first day (7th August) of release. Not many stores had it yet, only few authorised Nokia sellers did, thus they were selling at the price range of RM3.2k-RM3.6k(USD850-USD950). For Maxis (Msian Telcos) promotion (RM3088) the stocks are not available just yet, gotta be end of the month for pre-order and early Sept for market availability. Anyway nice phone with superb features! Whoever has got it out there, have fun with it guys!
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- Unknown
- TS}
- 11 Aug 2005
Anyone has this phone yet? Is the photo quality the same as in the review? Thanks in advance for ur info.
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- Anonymous
- nE2
- 11 Aug 2005
take a look at philips 968 mpe4 video record and it runs linux
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- hello_moto
- PFM
- 10 Aug 2005
i have been nokia user for 7 years n i used most of nokia products but sony ericsson change it all n really like their s700i,k750i n w800i n nokia n90 looks like another flop nokia 6260 n i like nokia but no style in them look at nokia fashion phone n all rubbish n expensive but trade value is low n hope nokia stop producing stupid phone n their battery power really sucks n sony ericsson rocks n connecting to sony ericsson