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  • 08 Dec 2022

Minu, 08 Dec 2022Can't guarantee about TCL (Alcatel) phones but they do... moreWe have a lot in common

We keep are Smartphones for as long as possible as well
I would expect a smartphone too at least least 5 years at the lowest possible price point
We are stuck with whatever we buy for year's and have too live with are choices

Just a lot want very wrong for us with are choices of smartphones turning out too be bad phones

Just for me the Smartphone I brought is unusable Nokia c01 plus so I switched back too Nokia 3.1 but I don't have enough storage space

Nokia g10 the same case problem it is very sluggish
Are one was a refurbished phone sold as open box with a lot of problems is very sluggish

Had too be replaced

TCL & Alcatel do look promising for me
There smartphones do have removable battery's
TCL A3 Alcatel 1b 2020 or Alcatel 2022 all look good too me

If they won't perform well in the long term that will be a deal breaker for me

Replacement ports and the reliability of a smartphone are the important too me

We have only got experience with Alcatel cheapest budget smartphone that only cost £30 in 2015 the Alcatel pixi 3 or Alcatel pixi 4 can't remember the model so well

This smartphone has suffered water damage and the battery swelling up and battery leaking broken changing port broken as well was told it is dead

I just removed the broken battery and put the broken battery back in and left it on change for hours and it come back too life

There cheap and cheerful phones simply just don't die
How it is possible it is working in this state XD

If Alcatel is good I would be happy too buy from them

The hotwav cyber 9 pro is very good like the umidigi a9 pro has 8gb ram can be found on sale around £135
It can be found cheap in the UK with online shopping
It's got great battery and performance

We thought it was too good too be true but it is real and the Smartphone very good at multi tasking runs smoothly and it is able too run games

The 8gb ram make's a would of difference in performance ideally we have 12gb ram or even more if we could
Brand's like umidigi and hotwav really do make some real budget beasts a lot of Chinese brands make high spec low price Smartphones

If this was 1 or 2 years ago yeah we would of chosen it
If we could of find old stock at reasonable price

Yeah the Nokia 8 could be found or possibly even a Nokia 9 the problem is they are refurbished and expensive

The low ram was the other problem don't want too risk another low ram amount smartphone

My mum won't buy a Nokia smartphone she hates the Nokia brand there's that too
Same case with the rest of my family they hate the Nokia brand and Alcatel for some reason or another

I think it's because Nokia & Alcatel smartphones are all low end and they only care about performance and battery life

Battery life Nokia is very good but hardware specs performance or running smoothly just isn't Nokia battle best ground in the mid range market

Nokia all of the updates do them no favours either
There also not completely blootware free either

I could Nokia possibly complete with a brand like umidigi that can Whoop brands like Xiaomi in value for money on hardware and specs and is even stock Android on top
Or complete with hotwav that are also blootware free
And have huge battery size

We are amazed by there's smartphone but this does also make Nokia look even worse in comparison

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    • 08 Dec 2022

    Sin, 07 Dec 2022I regret not getting my mum the Nokia 5.1 that runs Android... moreCan't guarantee about TCL (Alcatel) phones but they do look promising. But they wouldn't perform well in the long term and replacement parts are much harder to find compared to Nokia phones.
    I think the reason why people in our country see the people in the UK as rich is mainly because we use our phones for as long as we can and not change our phones whenever possible.
    Why couldn't you buy your mum the Nokia 8? I believe it's very cheaper now compared to launch.
    Also how are hotwav phones? They aren't sold in most regions.

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      • 07 Dec 2022

      Minu, 07 Dec 2022The 2.4 is essentially the same as the G10, with the same t... moreI regret not getting my mum the Nokia 5.1 that runs Android 10

      As it would of just been the better version of my Nokia 3.1 smartphone but then again only the base version ever available

      But even that probably won't of had good enough hardware for basic usage without sluggishness sooner or later

      If I had of know how ram hungry Android 12 update was going too be we would have never brought the Nokia g10

      I think am also due for a smartphone upgrade also now

      As my Nokia 3.1 storage is too low for me 2gb storage
      no room for most of my apps just too little too work with

      We really have grown a dislike for all of the Android version updates they just hog system resources on budget smartphones too much

      Just very high frustration as all I wanted is the Nokia 3.1 3gb ram/32gb rom version

      But sold out no where for me too buy it
      And have too suffer with the base version I didn't want

      Am wondering if Alcatel phones are good as they also at least affordable like Nokia phones

      But they look promising due too running Android 11 instead of 12

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        • 3aP
        • 07 Dec 2022

        Minu, 07 Dec 2022The 2.4 is essentially the same as the G10, with the same t... moreYes I have tried all of these kinds of lite apps and setting
        It doesn't make a noticeable difference

        The optimization made no meanfull difference in performance between this or standard

        Turning off back tasks and stuff if anything made more problems if anything

        Using lite version of app candy crush don't have a lite version as far as I know

        Just so sluggish or still too sluggish

        I stand by my point should just have difference models
        And make affable smartphones with more ram it's a very cheap part in manufacturing

        People in the UK are poor and and gas prices and food cost of living very high

        Don't be fooled a lot of people life below the minimum wage or benefits system problems in the uk

        My mum is very impatient and just wants a smartphone too work we ended up getting a replacement for the crappy Nokia g10 I feel sorry for anyone who has too suffer with it and just how sluggish it really is

        It's been replaced by the hotwav cyber 9 pro we find on mega sale

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          • 07 Dec 2022

          Sin, 07 Dec 2022Is there experience with the Nokia 2.4 any good on Android ... moreThe 2.4 is essentially the same as the G10, with the same type of storage but has 2GB RAM and a slightly less battery.

          My colleagues with the 2.4 keep them fast by disabling apps in the background, disabling all animations (because stock Android animations are unbearably slow for certain people) and keeping 4 or less backgrounds processes at most.

          Also use lite versions of social media and game apps. Full versions of social media apps take the biggest hit in performance.
          Try taking the steps above and please give an update on them👍

          Thanks for mentioning about the UK's terrible pricing btw. We can get a higher configuration for a little bit more instead of a huge premium.
          Also, the base versions make perfect sense in our markets because in countries like ours, there's a huge poor population compared to the rich. But agree that base models shouldn't be made available in countries like the UK.

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            • 07 Dec 2022

            Minu, 07 Dec 2022If you can buy a Nokia with at least 4GB of RAM, go for it,... moreIs there experience with the Nokia 2.4 any good on Android 12 ?
            A lot of people only have the Smartphones they have because they afford or find anything better

            Maybe that smartphone got faster storage so it runs better ?
            I often forget about storage speed it plays such a big role in performance

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              • 3aP
              • 07 Dec 2022

              Minu, 07 Dec 2022If you can buy a Nokia with at least 4GB of RAM, go for it,... moreA lot of brands are doing a lot of stuff lately that hurts the consumers

              I don't think different ram & storage versions of every smartphone should exist of the same model of smartphone

              As they all look the same and the good versions end up sold out or limited to some regions

              My other problem is Smartphone brands are making smartphones & tablets that don't even meet the 6gb ram minimum system requirements for Android 12

              The budget market really unhealthy with this problem of Android 12 there's a British saying time is money

              There was a study that find

              The average person will find it very frustrating if a smartphone takes any longer than 3-secs too do anything like open a web page needs be under 3 sec too do such a basic task or be able handle switching 7 browser tabs going right back too where you left off

              The Nokia g10 is too sluggish for my mum too use even for base usage and it freezing up so badly it has too be powered on & off just too make it work again and sometimes random phones the police has this bug also

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                • 07 Dec 2022

                Minu, 07 Dec 2022If you can buy a Nokia with at least 4GB of RAM, go for it,... moreI tried too buy the maximum spec versions of Nokia smartphones base versions shouldn't exist

                The problem is Nokia always take my money then the Smartphone gets lost and they try too sell us base version for full spec version price so I have too get a refund

                The refund takes a week too get the refund by then the good version Nokia 3.1 sold out every where

                So it base version was only Nokia smartphone that are not sold out so base version or Nokia 3.1 no phone

                With Nokia c01 plus base version or pay 3x the price and import taxes on top so base version I picked

                In the UK you can't buy anything but base version of Nokia t10 tablet

                Nokia shouldn't be making crappy base versions in the first place

                A device should not come any faults that need updates too fit it should work out of the box day 1
                I don't like beta testing software this is the worsened

                Am guessing this is a avoid as only base version is available

                I just need a smartphone
                I don't have a lot of money

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                  • 07 Dec 2022

                  Sin, 06 Dec 2022The problem is with android 12 and beyond android 12 is th... moreIf you can buy a Nokia with at least 4GB of RAM, go for it, because you've purchased the lowest configurations of all models.

                  As long as you're patient, the software fixes would give unexpectedly good results. For example, my Nokia 8 had software issues in the beginning but all (if not, most) got fixed since the last software update.
                  Please make sure that you make Nokia aware about your issues and report to them via e-mail. Commenting on GSMArena would be useless since they may not read the comments, which is the problem with every single brand.

                  Never judge stock Android smartphones based on their base configuration. The models you have bought have the least RAM and storage, so no wonder you'll be disappointed with the speed.
                  A lot of my colleagues' Nokia 2.4 phones have 2GB of RAM and 32GB of ROM but run Android 12 with only a few stutters.
                  The biggest mistake you did is that you had purchased the lowest configuration when you could clearly afford higher configurations of the same model.

                  If your experience with Nokia phones is like this, then no wonder all other phones, regardless of their brands, with similar configurations (or maybe even more) would be much slower.

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                    • 06 Dec 2022

                    Minu, 04 Dec 2022RAM isn't a huge problem as long as the device is opti... moreAbout Samsung i don't know much about there modern smartphones
                    but i did have a look at mostly mid reach and flagship phones

                    I did have a look at display modals of smartphones from ever brand i could find
                    Samsung OneUI OS - had the 3 Bottom navigation and The user interface was good software layout was good feature set good os runs just ok not super fast
                    google pixel - was buggy mess and very bad navigation system bad layout user unfriendly
                    very bad not as fast as it should be
                    Nokia - AndroidOne was user unfriendly navigation is black screen bug even on display modal has best power saver mode OS runs fast but most likely can't multi task well without slow down
                    xiaomi - miui bloated with crap however button navigation at least works software layout was ok as well a lot of features and settings that could very go wrong or break stuff
                    nothing phone just bad os altogether very little too like runs fairly smooth
                    honor navigation is bad again layout is kinda ok more or less ok is smooth
                    Oppo software won't respond too touch well just jumps everwhere
                    alcatel phone won't turn on but alcatel tablet 3 button home button app draw all work
                    very good layout and interface run well for the low specs but is still slow
                    lenovo tablet won't turn on a huge yet down
                    Tcl saw but not got too try one

                    just what i did have look at
                    i did find the phones with better hardware always better too use

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                      • 3aP
                      • 06 Dec 2022

                      Minu, 04 Dec 2022RAM isn't a huge problem as long as the device is opti... moreThe problem is with android 12 and beyond
                      android 12 is the worsted OS ever i hate google for this

                      The OS & hardware are a miss match
                      Android 12 should never paired with anything less then 6gb ram

                      optimized well it will not be this is my problem with it
                      android 12 runs badly on anything then android 13 that will be trash will make it even slower

                      Am wondering if i should just avoid Nokia products from know on ?
                      i don't want too waste money on something that does not work

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                        • 04 Dec 2022

                        Sin, 01 Dec 2022Am tempted by black Friday cyber Monday sales Although t... moreRAM isn't a huge problem as long as the device is optimized well. A massive problem I've noticed in my colleagues' Samsung phones having 6GB and upwards

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                          • 01 Dec 2022

                          Am tempted by black Friday cyber Monday sales

                          Although this table at 119 pound still isn't exactly well priced

                          Am spilt minded on buying this tablet as it runs Android 12 that states system requirements 6gb ram minimum

                          Am scared it will be super sluggish and buggy if I was too buy it

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                            • 26 Nov 2022

                            [deleted post]$120-170, depends on your region

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                              • 09 Nov 2022

                              Jan, 25 Oct 2022I like the size and screen quality. Couple of things it mis... moreThe one you had mentioned is the Wi-Fi model, not the GSM/LTE model

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                                • 25 Oct 2022

                                I like the size and screen quality. Couple of things it misses :
                                No calling functionality like smart phone really a big miss
                                No customizing to choose higher ram nor rom memory
                                8 or 12 gb ram and 256 gb rom should be option to choose
                                5G calling
                                In the spec I could not detect if made with corning gorilla glass.
                                If it does not have this , then add it.

                                If the next version of T0 has the above features with price not exceeding 300 euro it will be my choice.

                                Then provide the optional light keyboard (bluetooth) and then we go.

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                                  • 06 Oct 2022

                                  Minu, 30 Sep 2022This is actually quite reasonable considering the pricing o... moreAbout unisoc processor and mediatek with heating up

                                  I have experience with many mediatek powered smartphones only one unisoc example

                                  My Nokia 3.1 really reliable with good stability and it doesn't overheat it's performance is sluggish though

                                  The generic smartphones with mediatek are sluggish and get hot but remain functional and perform tasks just struggle with everything and anything

                                  Some fussyness around instilling apps as apps complain or say not installed from app stores shows not installed from app store try again too install
                                  but when I go too home screen find app installed and working this kinda stuff on the generic phones

                                  I generally had good experiences with mediatek
                                  Good battery life with mediatek processor smartphones and good compatibility with apps and only few problems

                                  The unisoc processor gets hot u said it's the ram heating up as it mainly happens when browsing the web

                                  I do have some problems with the Nokia c01 plus for whatever reason the games GTA 3 and vice city won't run just crash incomplete just refuses too work
                                  Also my ad blocker don't work properly either

                                  Another problem with Nokia c01 plus is battery life drawns fast it's inefficient processor that eats battery life it's not ideal

                                  At least the unisoc processor don't freeze up or throttle

                                  I had much better experience with mediatek and Snapdragon overall than the disappointment with unisoc processor

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                                    • 3ag
                                    • 06 Oct 2022

                                    Minu, 30 Sep 2022This is actually quite reasonable considering the pricing o... moreMaybe the price is ok
                                    The specs are high for a tablet

                                    The price is high for a tablet considering it's more expensive than some smartphones like my Nokia c01 plus or Nokia 3.1
                                    it's 3 times more expensive

                                    The q88 tablets are 30 pound
                                    The xgody tablet cost about 50 pound
                                    Even the Alcatel tablet costs 65 pound
                                    I wish there was a Nokia t5

                                    It's worth noting that none of there's tablet's are anywhere near as powerful as the Nokia t10
                                    The Samsung and Lenovo are similar too the Nokia but get less software support
                                    I do think the Nokia t10 very feature rich also

                                    It's a good tablet for people who can afford it

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                                      • 30 Sep 2022

                                      Sin, 26 Sep 2022I do think it's a good premium tablet A lot of good ... moreThis is actually quite reasonable considering the pricing of Lenovo and Samsung tablets in less developed countries. And it's worth noting that unisocs don't heat as much as mediatek processors

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                                        • 26 Sep 2022

                                        Minu, 21 Sep 2022I believe it also has a dual sim model. I don't think ... moreI do think it's a good premium tablet
                                        A lot of good features i just don't see the need for a tablet too be a power house
                                        i just don't see the point of buying a tablet more expensive
                                        then my smartphone

                                        I wish Nokia would make a lot more affordable tablets
                                        like Nokia T5 with Mediatek instead

                                        it's Nokia t10 Nokia not for me
                                        At least not till the price is reduced by half

                                        Am not a fan unisoc processors they eat battery life like there is no tomorrow
                                        and have compatibly problems with apps