Poco X3 Pro long-term review
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 14 Dec 2021
[deleted post]Admittedly, I don't have any data. But my point is that statistics is always the answer. Don't use this against me.
> Oh, are you ignoring your previous statements now that you can't argue anymore?
Lol. I never argued in the first place.
I never talked trash about IPS and or said how good OLED is. In fact, I conceded to your point regarding OLED's issues. You've been attacking strawman arguments the entire time, very entertaining I must say. All I said was "IPS LCD has burn-in", and then you assumed I was attacking IPS. Good job.
Do you really need my confirmation that I've read your comment? I did read the whole thing and silently acknowledged it, I just didn't say it. But sure, I will give you my thoughts on it, because you matter so much.
When you state that Samsung was not using OLED in their TVs, you have clearly never heard of the Samsung Q series. You also must've never heard of the Sony A9G. All of these TVs use OLED.
"People reporting in Samsung forums having burn-ins and color tinting..."
Ok and? Yes I do admit that it still happens to OLED phones of today, but from what I perceive, the group of people who have burn-in is still comparatively small compared to all the phones without burn-in (unless you can prove otherwise). I've owned a V30 for three years and I have yet to experience burn-in or color tinting (not that this proves or disproves anything).
"Samsung would say that burn-ins wouldn't a problem anymore and yet there they are"
Of course they would say that. Companies never admit a problem because it makes them look bad. That's just what companies do.
And FYI, I like both IPS LCD and OLED. I like IPS for its more realistic colors, but I prefer OLED for the deep blacks. OLED does have pretty bad color reproduction, something I dislike about it. If phones can adopt the new miniLED LCD technology with local dimming, then I am happy to switch from OLED. So don't mistake me for someone who hates on LCD.
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- Oompaloompa
- Kx1
- 14 Dec 2021
Sold my redmi note 10 pro in favor to this one, cause screen is turn green when tilting a bit and its noticable and really annoying to me, imo cheap oled is not good and causing eyestrain and headaches when reading.
On performance side x3 pro is a beast if you are heavy user, just install gcam to help the camera problem a bit.
Mine never got below 8++ sot with mixed use, put custom rom even more sot nearly 10-11 hours and more smoothness than miui, though its not for everyone solution.
- DroidBoye
- vaQ
- 14 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 14 Dec 2021But have you never considered the statistics? You most like... moreThen give me stats that includes date range on it just so we know that we are not referencing the pre-historic era of displays.
Oh, are you ignoring your previous statements now that you can't argue anymore? Cool man, understandable. Maybe not just quote one phrase, quote the whole thing I've said, you're only focusing on a tiny bit of details just to justify your argument. Kind of sad actually. lol.
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 14 Dec 2021
DroidBoye, 14 Dec 2021IPS LCDs are not prone to burn-in. Use that term "pron... moreBut have you never considered the statistics? You most likely do not know the percentage of people who get burn-in on AMOLED vs people who get burn-in on IPS LCD.
"Only people like you downplay burn-ins in OLEDs"
Huh? I was never downplaying anything, you are attacking an "argument" I never created. Of course OLED burn-in should be considered wear and tear. All forms of burn-in should be.
- DroidBoye
- vaQ
- 14 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 14 Dec 2021Dude, you're the one who is coming to such quick concl... moreIPS LCDs are not prone to burn-in. Use that term "prone" into an OLED and we'll agree.
This is fact: IPS "can burn-in" but only under extreme worst-cases. OLEDs on the other hand will burn-in without including "extreme-circumstances" or "worst-cases". People reporting in Samsung forums having burn-ins and color tinting on their well-taken-cared-of OLED phones. Those are even flagships Galacy S-series in which Samsung would say that burn-ins wouldn't a problem anymore and yet there they are. Ever wonder why Samsung isn't using their AMOLEDs in their TVs? Because they knew. Ever wonder why with Samsung's policy, OLED burn-in is considered as standard wear and tear? Because even them wouldn't downplay burn-ins. Only people like you downplay burn-ins in OLEDs that even manufacturers couldn't even bare to do so.
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 14 Dec 2021
DroidBoye, 14 Dec 2021And how many years would you have to backtrack to prove you... moreI do not deny any of that.
Yes, other than burn-in, OLED displays also leave a tint over time. The gray uniformity at low brightness is also very poor, my V30 struggles with this too. I am not denying any of this.
My point about LCD comes from my own anecdotal evidence. It also comes from other people's experience too. LCD burn-in is a thing. That's all I'm saying.
- DroidBoye
- vaQ
- 14 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 13 Dec 2021You realize that IPS displays can also get burn in right? ... moreAnd how many years would you have to backtrack to prove your point regarding IPS? For instance, have you seen a burned-in Mi 10T Pro display while you would and easily see how common burn-ins and color tinting happening in Samsung's own Galaxy S-series flagships which are way more expensive than the Mi 10T Pro. Oh did I say poor gray uniformity, black crush, and tinting (common on high refresh rate OLEDs) on minimum brightness? Yes OLEDs s_cks in those departments. Also poor OLED manufacturing from Samsung, their foldables have lamination nightmares. Don't get me started on that regard. lol.
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 14 Dec 2021
DroidBoye, 14 Dec 2021This is by far one of the d_mbest thing I've read thus... moreDude, you're the one who is coming to such quick conclusions. I did not say OLED is not flawed. I also never denied that OLED degrades over time.
I am SIMPLY saying that IPS LCD is still prone to burn-in. I am not making this stuff up, I have owned two devices with IPS LCD that has gotten burn-in. That is literally it.
Stop putting words into my mouth.
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 14 Dec 2021
Kangal, 14 Dec 2021All of my OLED phones have developed burn-in. Some within a... moreIn reality, your personal experience doesn't mean anything on the grand scheme of things. And I will admit, my personal experince means virtually nothing as well. All I can say is that I owned my LG V30 for three years and I have never gotten any burn-in on the OLED display. Yet, I've owned two IPS LCD devices, the LG G4 and K3 Note, and have gotten burn-in on both. So my anecdotal evidence says otherwise.
"LCD phones don't get burn-in"
Incorrect. They do get burn-in, just a different kind.
A quote from the Wikipedia article, "For LCDs, burn-in develops in some cases because pixels permanently lose their ability to return to their relaxed state after a continued static use profile". Their words not mine.
- DroidBoye
- vaQ
- 14 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 13 Dec 2021Burn-in is rare regardless of the display technology. It is... moreThis is by far one of the d_mbest thing I've read thus far. Totally downplaying the strong point of IPS displays while ignoring and also downplaying the facts regarding organic display degradation on regular use.
- Kangal
- D$j
- 14 Dec 2021
To be honest, I prefer SLCD-IPS in a 1080p 60Hz (16:9) form.
It's bright, saves power, and lasts for years. All it needs is a User Removable Battery.
If I'm going for an OLED phone, then I'd rather 120Hz, a 1440p-PenTile in (21:9) form.
Vivid colours, fluid, and AOD function. More disposable, but IP68 Waterproofing preferred.
I see these as different classes of devices. Just like some people prefer to own a porsche, whilst others drive a JEEP. Different strokes for different folks.
- Kangal
- D$j
- 14 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 13 Dec 2021Burn-in is rare regardless of the display technology. It is... moreAll of my OLED phones have developed burn-in. Some within a year, others after 3 years.
Only one of my LCD phone developed a burn-in, and that was a 2010 device.
LCD phones don't get burn-in, whilst OLED does. This is the general truth. There are rare exceptions.
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- Peter1888
- HK@
- 14 Dec 2021
Mike4, 13 Dec 2021Was considering this phone, but went with a Poco F3 instea... moreAs far as value for money nothing even comes close to X3 pro
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- IpsDisplay
- ri0
- 14 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 13 Dec 2021Burn-in is rare regardless of the display technology. It is... moreNow your being dishonest
At a chemical level and organic material will not have equal
Burn in outcome as an inorganic kind this is the truth
Burn in OLED is significantly more common
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 13 Dec 2021
IpsDisplay, 13 Dec 2021If most people don't realize it must be so rare that... moreBurn-in is rare regardless of the display technology. It is equally as rare in both LCD and AMOLED.
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- IpsDisplay
- ri0
- 13 Dec 2021
NeonHD, 13 Dec 2021You realize that IPS displays can also get burn in right?
... moreIf most people don't realize it must be so rare that's it's virtually zero
What a reliable technology IPS is
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- Atypical
- 4$Z
- 13 Dec 2021
I think it's interesting that GSMArena seems to treat the "Poco X3" and "Poco X3 NFC" as two different phones. I can't see any evidence anywhere else that there's a non-NFC version of the Poco X3. What's happening here?
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- Mike4
- 6vA
- 13 Dec 2021
Was considering this phone, but went with a Poco F3 instead for a magical 299$ at black Friday, The 870 is truly a god given chipset, it's close to a 888 in perf, but it does not overheat or throttle. Do yourself a favor and get the future proof phone with a 870 5G connectivity, or a Mediatek1200, although The 870 is still the better option.
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- MrDSM
- Ncj
- 13 Dec 2021
It's very good device, the only 3 things that is not so good is the form factor (big) , the LCD and the camera.
- NeonHD
- sfx
- 13 Dec 2021
IpsDisplay, 13 Dec 2021And with its LCD display
You get 0% burn in feature for free!!You realize that IPS displays can also get burn in right?
I got burn in on my Lenovo K3 Note and LG G4, both of which are using IPS LCD.
Burn in isn't just exclusive to AMOLED, something that most people do not realize.