Samsung Galaxy S23
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- Anonymous
- uSV
- 13 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 12 Jan 2024They can't afford an S phone and are therefore asking ... moreThese so called people wanted new release models at old price range as if the pandemic did not happen and shook the market price of everything.
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- Anonymous
- B0A
- 12 Jan 2024
Need small phone, 11 Jan 2024Hey, quick question. I can't afford the price of an S2... moreYou are among millions of others who also want a midrange or low-end device that is the size of the S23. Sadly, a few years ago Samsung wrote you off. And some people commenting on this website want to pretend that you don't exist. Very unfortunate.
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- Anonymous
- yJt
- 12 Jan 2024
Pitchwisse, 12 Jan 2024Unfortunately, the vanilla flagship models are the only sma... moreThey can't afford an S phone and are therefore asking about a compact A series phone like the A10e.
Unfortunately the answer is no. In the last few years Samsung started only providing compact options to the wealthy.
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- Pitchwisse
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- 12 Jan 2024
Need small phone, 11 Jan 2024Hey, quick question. I can't afford the price of an S2... moreUnfortunately, the vanilla flagship models are the only small ones worth buying. What makes matters worse, the S23 was the first vanilla flagship that has proper battery life. If you were to go for something cheaper, like an S22 or S21, the battery life would be the biggest disadvantage (performance and camera not so much). The only other brands that come to mind are Asus and Sony, and they are also pricey.
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- Anonymous
- n}C
- 12 Jan 2024
Pitchwisse, 11 Jan 2024The cost of materials is cheaper, but the building process ... moreIs that why the S23 is much CHEAPER than the bigger S23 Plus?
Seriously...
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- Anonymous
- n}C
- 12 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2024There are still people who doesn't understand that eac... moreThe "manufacturer's sales data" obviously isn't worth much, as Samsung won't bring back the Note series, the headphone jack, and Snapdragon chips everywhere every year. All these are things that a massive percentage of buyers want. And tell us something, does their so-called "sales data" tell them that most people like 5000mAh batteries, but hate 6000mAh batteries? What about the few 7000mAh battery phones from a couple of years ago that were discontinued?
As has been pointed out by a few people here already, consumers buy whatever phones are available at the moment, because they have no other choice. Manufacturers do not conduct surveys to find out what people REALLY want and then produce those. That has never happened.
Thus the so-called "sales data" is just what buyers were FORCED to get, even when they really prefer other choices that don't exist.
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- Anonymous
- x}j
- 11 Jan 2024
Need small phone, 11 Jan 2024Hey, quick question. I can't afford the price of an S2... moreHa! You wish. These days Samsung only caters to the rich, and only they have a compact option like that. Everyone else is forced to make do with big heavy ones. In some instances bordering on phablet proportions.
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- Anonymous
- y2e
- 11 Jan 2024
Anyone know if the S23 supports NSA to SA handover or redirections?
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- Need small phone
- AAX
- 11 Jan 2024
Hey, quick question. I can't afford the price of an S23, but I would very much like a phone that's a similar size. Are there any available from Samsung? It's time to move on from my A10e to something newer. (I see a lot of long comments below which may or may not address this, but I can't read through them.)
Thank you.
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- Anonymous
- uSV
- 11 Jan 2024
There are still people who doesn't understand that each of us have different preferences, so please stop using ALL, EVERYONE and NO ONE to try and make an illusion that your statements are true and invalidate other people's opinion and preferences. Your preference is not everyone's preference. If the manufacturer releases a product an it sells, then it only means they have a market share. The manufacturers have the sales data, we don't. People's preferences change and it will show on their sales data. Maybe your preference will be the majority's preferences in the future, or maybe not.
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- Pitchwisse
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- 11 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 11 Jan 2024If small phones are supposedly so hard for manufacturers to... moreThe cost of materials is cheaper, but the building process is more complicated due to space constrictions for the components.
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- Anonymous
- CS@
- 11 Jan 2024
AZR, 10 Jan 20241) Then please name that "other" preferences you ... moreTo all those going on and on about "bigger is better" and "larger displays and batteries over everything", take a look at these examples (among others).
- A54: 6.4 display, 5000mAh battery, available (almost) everywhere
- M54: 6.7 display, 6000mAh battery, not available in most places
- A14: 6.6 display, 5000mAh battery, available (almost) everywhere
- F/M14: 6.6 display, 6000mAh battery, not available in most places
- M51/M62/F62: 6.7 display, 7000mAh battery, not available in most places, such phones not produced since 2021
Does anything more need to be said?
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- Anonymous
- SYq
- 11 Jan 2024
AZR, 10 Jan 20241) Then please name that "other" preferences you ... moreIf small phones are supposedly so hard for manufacturers to make as people here claim, why is the smaller S phone $200 CHEAPER than the bigger "Plus" version?
Obviously, a smaller phone with a smaller display and battery is CHEAPER than a similar phone that has a bigger display and battery. The same would apply to a device with a midrange or low-end chipset.
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- Anonymous
- ps8
- 11 Jan 2024
AZR, 10 Jan 20241) Then please name that "other" preferences you ... moreSince you failed to see the half dozen or so comments below from various people that specify what those "preferences" are, here they are again:
- A phone that does not fatigue ones hands
- A phone that fits into ones pocket
- A phone that can easily be used with one hand
These are the same things that many base S23/S22 owners value as well. That might not be "value" to you, but it is to tens of millions (or more) of others.
As for your question about what chip to put in it, I'm not sure why that's so complicated. A smaller "A15e" would have the same chip as the regular A15 (whether 4G or 5G), a smaller "A55e" would have the same chip as the regular A55, and so on. These things have been done before by Samsung years ago already.
And I have no idea why you'd have to "think carefully" about what to do with such a device. Again, the smaller version would match the bigger version's specs, except for the size of the device, display, and battery. No performance is being "sacrificed". It's quite simple actually.
As for your claim that most people want bigger batteries, Samsung clearly doesn't think so. If they did, they'd use 6000mAh batteries in EVERY country, not just select markets.
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- Anonymous
- GXs
- 10 Jan 2024
SweeetY, 09 Jan 2024You are wrong...people buying budget phones want them big, ... moreNot always is quote-on-quote "more" of something a good thing. You wouldn't want your car to be the length of a bus just because it's "more". And many people don't want their phone to be the size of a almost-tablet.
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- Leo
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- 10 Jan 2024
Earlier Samsung used to give 560+ ppi in their phones , i'd used s9+ in the past, and came from lg g7+thinq to s23 and s23 ultra,i could notice the crispness difference, if anyone spends this much on s23 which is the compact flagship, why not uhd display, in my opinion its a downgrade from earlier phones, also i had to sell s23 and s23 ultra due to its less pwm, i faced so much of flickering issue
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- Anonymous
- yJt
- 10 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2024You don't speak for everyone. Just because you don... moreActually, s/he speaks for many people (myself included) who want smaller phones.
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- AZR
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- 10 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 09 Jan 20241) There is a market for bigger phones (for the reasons you... more1) Then please name that "other" preferences you claimed. I have given mine, so now its your turn. Even then, I doubt those demographic is far larger than what I described. I doubt there are many people who want to sacrifice performance just so they can hold their phone better, especially if they have limited budget and very conscious about getting the bang of their buck.
2) Again, you completely missing the point I made. Contrary to your belief, smaller phones doesn't necessarily mean better value. "Value" can be perceived differently between person. Some will value bigger phones with its big screen and big battery (which happens to be the majority of people, as I described in various demographic on my last post), some will value the opposite. And I never said companies "should stuff everything to a smaller device". What I mean is on higher-end devices, the performance difference will be smaller. Case in point, most flagships comes with the latest Snapdragon 8 series. Meaning they are all powerful phone the same. There also people who bought flagship level phones just to brag (as a social status, because they have the money), not necessarily because they understand what they're buying into. So, to "differentiate" (read: establish identity), companies then starts to mess around with the aesthetics (read: gimmick), because they can afford to waste R&D money (and people will buy it regardless, again, because consumer at this level have the money). Folding phones, flip phones, or smaller sized phones.
3) Those "leeway" I talked about in point number 2 doesn't apply on lower priced devices. Obviously there's going to be some cuts made here and there to drive price down. There's lot more performance difference that people can get in this segment. For example, some companies will stuff high level chip at the cost of things like software (Poco is a good example for this). Others might be completely the opposite, low level chipset but with good software (remember Samsung A53?). If you made a S23 sized phone (or smaller) in this segment, you have to think carefully about how you want to do it. Do you go with lower level chip + worse quality screen to extend battery life? Or the opposite? It's even harder to decide the lower price point you go. Perhaps there are people who really want it, but at this price segment, that amount is so small that it's just not economically worth it to justify catering to those people (hence, practically "no market" for it). Which bring us back to your first point, I'd like you to state which demographic that prioritize smaller form factor above anything else. Because if a small phone is what you need, feature phones still exist you know. Nowadays they can even do everyday tasks, like social media surfing, watching Youtube, and more.
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- Anonymous
- yJt
- 10 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2024You don't speak for everyone. Just because you don... more"If their product sells, it means their product is ok" you say. Wow.
It's like you didn't read even one of the comments below debunking this myth and explaining how consumers respond to manufacturers producing stuff. Educate yourself, buddy.
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- Anonymous
- yJt
- 10 Jan 2024
SweeetY, 09 Jan 2024You are wrong...people buying budget phones want them big, ... more"more phone for less money" you say. That's probably why your phone is the size of a refrigerator...