Sharp 802
- s
- skater42
- RN}
- 18 Sep 2005
THINK ABOUT THIS
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Yes, so far I haven't been able to get this phone GPRS enabled, not even on Vodafone.
This means that, as it is now, you will not be able to use MMS/WAP on ANY network other than Vodafone KK (Japan), or unless you are using Vodafone KK on roaming.
I will let everyone know when I find a solution.
BUT...READ ON
As everyone who owns this phone knows: It IS awesome!
Everyone keeps on complaining that we cannot receive Japanese technology, and Japanese phones are so good "why can't we have them???", "Why stays everything in Japan??" blablablablabla....
DOCOMO handsets aren't available or usable ANYWHERE without a docomo-contract, and probably will never be!
Vodafone made it possible to export SHARP and TOSHIBA models of such high standard OUTSIDE of Japan. No other non-japanese network, except Vodafone (V & GX-Series) and T-Mobile (TM-Series), have access to these exclusive SHARP Handsets. And the best thing, the 802SH can at least be used for the main functions: call, SMS and camera.
I like MMS but can live without it for now. The camera and PDA functions on top of the awesome MP3 player really make this phone worth it for me and only few other phones can compete with SHARP 3G models.
See, the 802SH, 501SH, 601SH and 801SH phones were never intended for other markets. They shouldn't be available outside of japan: full stop!
But for those who appreciate SHARP quality it is quite a "privilege" to have at least the 802SH, the 702, 902 and 903 being generally available to all Vodafone 3G (UMTS) regions. In simple terms: Don't buy the 802SH if you can't sacrifice the GPRS.
If that doesn't bother you then you're in for a pretty good deal and a phone that is simply more than a phone! And the best selling point: The 802SH is around $200 cheaper than the 902SH, which makes it a nice alternative.
skater42
- A
- Alex
- PTX
- 18 Sep 2005
Im not saying that the phone is rubbish. Its just a hassle not being able to receive MMS messages when they have been sent to you.
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- oikeh
- mcy
- 17 Sep 2005
from the opinion i have read on this site, does
it mean i can not use the v802 for mms and gprs with any other network except vodafone? please can someone tell me.
- s
- skater42
- RN}
- 17 Sep 2005
DATA LOCK
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I am not quite sure about this one. At first it seems that this is the case, but on top of that Vodafone and any other netowrk providers MUST APPROVE the handset on their network before access to such services can be granted.
The 802SH was never intended for the sale overseas and hence is not supported on networks outside of Japan. Telstra settings for my phone let it at least attempt to connect, though no success.
It is a bit of a pain I know, but I can live with it. Ringtones & Wallpapers I make myself, and the rest... I'll live!
You need to look at the strenghts:
- Quality 1.3 MPx CCD Camera
- MP3 player with 3.5mm jack support
- OFFLINE MODE for Airplanes and Hospitals (like the W800)
- QVGA (320x240px) MPEG4 video
- PDA calendar and reminder functions
- Macromedia Flash etc.
There is so much to this handset! And its very affordable!!!!
Think about that!
skater42
- A
- Alex
- PTX
- 17 Sep 2005
There is a data lock on the 802 which prevents the use of MMS & WAP. Unless you can get rid of the lock, those functions cannot be used, which is a big downside as even cheap & crap phones let you use MMS & WAP.
- s
- skater42
- 2Bt
- 16 Sep 2005
MMF 5 by YAMAHA
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The latest version of the converter, MA5, is the "loudest" and supports Mono 24khz, stereo 12khz wave file support.
Earlier versions like MA2 and MA3 support up to 12khz and 40 poly tones, MA5 & MA7 support from 64poly to 128poly, 24-48(?)khz ringtones.
The converter (MA5) can be downloaded for free off the Yamaha web site, simply look for it on google.com.
Let me know how you go and if you need help with it.
skater42
- k
- kouji
- jxy
- 16 Sep 2005
Just curious, how do you get your ring tones to be louder? cause when i use the WSC-MA2-SMAF-210-j to convert the wav to mmf and put it into my phone, the ring tone when i have it at 5 isn't that loud.. its kinda mute.. any suggestions? cause i was reading you cna make it 24khz but are there any wav->mmf 24 khz? cause i really want one cause i can barely hear my phone ring when i use the 8khz from yamaha.
thanks
- s
- skater42
- 2Cy
- 15 Sep 2005
TV OUT & AUTOFOCUS
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The V802SH has NO Autofocus. The camera is similar to the GX30 with a bit bigger resolution.
I'm not sure about the TV-OUT, there were no cables included, yet it may be possible to use the same cable as for the V902SH. But I don't kow how that would work. There is no separate menu-function that would enable such a thing.
skater42
- o
- oikeh
- mcy
- 14 Sep 2005
please can anybody tell me if sharp 802
has autofocus and tv out feature like
the 902?
- s
- skater42
- 2Cy
- 14 Sep 2005
FIRMWARE FLASHING
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I have heard, that means I cannot confirm this 100%, that re-flashing to the Japanese firmware will lock your phone again.
This is quite possible since the Japanese Firmware and hardware settings are set up differently to European phone settings.
I have read on forums that the Euro versions can be unlocked via IMEI, as where the Japanese are locked differently. If anyone has some hard-fact information on Japanese/ General phone locking this would be great!
Try it and let me know if it changed anything, but I don't think it is a good idea. Your phone might also become un-usable on your network in terms of GPRS use.
My V802 is not supported by Vodafone Australia and hence won't let me access the GPRS network.
Flashing can be done through third parties, depending on where you live this is sometimes a bit harder to achieve. Sharp is always a good try, so if you give them a call and tell them you need the Japanese version... go for it!
I haven't seen a free flasher for the V802 and the firmware is not available online either, unless you want to spend US$ 500 on a flasher-box you might just want to ring SHARP. Don't bother with Vodafone, they can't (don't want to) do much.
keep me informed, if the japanese flash works I might do it to get rid of my firmware bugs!!!
skater42
- f
- foo_mark
- 4B9
- 14 Sep 2005
I was wondering if anybody knows a place or site where I can send my phone to flash the firmware on this phone to the japanese version.
Currently I have the Euro (1.40M) version of the firmware, but I really want to get the japanese one so I can download some of those V-Appli's.
- J
- Jason
- TUE
- 14 Sep 2005
I've looked at a few sites and they all seem to say that the european version of 802sh can play mp3 directly without unlocking while the jap version cant. anyone can verify this? pls send me an e-mail jasonl2110@gmail.com
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- edwin
- TSF
- 12 Sep 2005
It says "no alert" happened when I pressed the "execute pending" command in the re-provisioning setting. btw i'm from the Philippines.
- e
- edwin
- TSF
- 12 Sep 2005
It says "no alert" happened when I pressed the "execute pending" command in the re-provisioning setting. btw i'm from the Philippines.
- s
- skater42
- 2Cy
- 12 Sep 2005
Reprovisioning
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I'm not 100% sure since my phone isn't locked and I think this might have something to do with it.
My japanese friend and I are the only people that own the 802SH in Coffs, her's has the Japanese Firmware, mine the European.
When I access her GPRS it works fine, but because it is roaming and contains the Japanese KK settings it might try to load local settings into the browser.
If you choose "Execute Pending" in the Re-Provisioning settings, what happens? Also, if you go to your local Vodafone site and get them to send you the settings via SMS, maybe that will solve it.
Sorry, haven't come accross this issue myself, but try that maybe.
skater42
- s
- skater42
- 2Cy
- 11 Sep 2005
PLAYING MP3's
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Follow this path for mp3's:
Private > Vodafone > My Items > Sounds & Ringtones
Once they are within this folder "Sounds & Ringtones", you're phone will detect them. You may have multiple sub-folders if you wish.
1.3 MPx and ZOOM
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No, you cannot zoom when you're on the highest resolution. This is why the new phones support optical zoom!
CHECKING FIRMWARE
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Type in this code here:
*01763*8371#
Actually, can you guys let me know which firmware you are running, please?
VODAFONE LIVE! & MMS
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In many cases Vodafone will not allow the 802SH to access their network because the phone has not been approved on any Vodafone Networks outside of Japan (Vodafone KK).
Telstra has just released their 3G service here in Rural NSW and I will try to get everything happening with them since Vodafone is being difficult, and Vodafone UMTS won't be available in Coffs Harbour until next year.
But other carriers might allow the 802SH to access GPRS. Simply get them to send you the settings!
UNLOCKING
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No, unlocking will not restrict your phone from any features. Firmware up/downgrades will.
VODAFONE Branding
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Unfortunatelly there is no other firmware available for the 802SH other than the current Vodafone versions. This phone was not released to any other networks like Vodafone Smartone in Hong Kong, hence there is no other firmware at this stage.
Chances are low of receiving other firmware since the 703SH & 903SH are now available.
BATTERY LIFE
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My battery lasts around 5 days with minimal usage. That means no MP3 playing, camera shooting or the like.
I use the MP3 player regularly and the camera, and with both I receive around 2-3 days without recharging.
- c
- chuan
- PUm
- 11 Sep 2005
hi skater, despite putting mp3 files into the folder(My Items > Video/ SD Video Folder
), i was not able to detect the mp3 from the phone, what could have gone wrong? is there arequirement what sort of card must be used?
- T
- Toh
- P5P
- 10 Sep 2005
802 is support MP3pro really? Wow, I'm very surprised.
Thanks for infos.
- j
- joao_x
- mFG
- 10 Sep 2005
ho one more tinhg, with the picture size in full resolution (960x1280) you can´t zoom right?
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- j
- joao_x
- mFG
- 10 Sep 2005
hey skater42
just got it yesterday!!great phone really, one of the best phones of today, really complete. there are only two things i don't like, the size and those vodafone menus.
i have a question: if i unlock the phone will he lose any of his capabilities??my phone doesn't have any of the bugs that you said=) so i wonder how can you check your firmware version?? how many days does your battery last??
thanks, [[[[]]]]