Qualcomm cuts outlook for fiscal 2015, blames Samsung
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- AnonD-3678
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- 25 Apr 2015
Why Samsung doesn't use Snapdragon 810? Because Qualcomm chose TSMC for its foundry
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- 24 Apr 2015
Qualcom please hury up to release the Snapdragon 820 and Snapdragon 625
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- 24 Apr 2015
So - Qualcomm's revenue is $25bill/yr whereas ARM's is $1bill/yr. Quite a difference considering they do the same thing: Qualcomm designs custom cores, ARM designs custom cores. Neither do any manufacturing.
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- 23 Apr 2015
Anonymous, 23 Apr 2015At some point Qualcomm can blame Samsung for accusing an ov... morelol... Such butthurt...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
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- 23 Apr 2015
So, over the past few years of Samsung constantly working on an LTE variant of its Exynos SoC, along with several news stories to go along with it, Qualcomm had to know that Samsung was only using its Snapdragon SoC's for convenience in key markets.
Exynos has always been a more powerful chipset than Snapdragon. It just wasn't as power efficient, and lacked LTE. Those issues have since been rectified. It's a no-brainer that Samsung would switch to its own product. Why use another company's chip when yours is superior?
Moreover, once Samsung's Exynos GPU gets fitted with a new instruction set based on fresh Radeon mobile architecture from AMD, no SoC will be able to touch it as a better GPU is all that's needed.
Without using assets acquired from AMD, Qualcomm's Adreno wouldn't be what it is today.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/qualcomm_acquires_handheld_graphics-2009jan13.aspx
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- 23 Apr 2015
Anonymous, 23 Apr 2015At some point Qualcomm can blame Samsung for accusing an ov... moreHowever, Samsung didn't fake the reviews to say that the Flex 2 got throttled, and the HTC M9 was very hot to the touch, and then got an update and was not as hot, but throttled.
You can't beat facts by just saying someone cheated.
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- 23 Apr 2015
AnonD-4340, 23 Apr 2015Ahahah, what are you smoking? Exynos CPU? LOL! Theres no su... moreThe modern Apple processors are based off old Exynos blueprints that Samsung sold to Apple after Apple bought Intrinsity.
Samsung has been designing Apple CPU cores and their SoC since before the iPhone 4, and all the iPhone CPUs after the iPhone 4 were based off the Samsung designs that Samsung sold to Apple.
The reason why Samsung forsaked designing CPU designs recently was because Samsung fell behind TSMC in node processes, so all of their efforts in the semiconductor space was on catching up to TSMC.
Designing CPU cores isn't "hard", you tool. Any company can design a CPU in 1-2 years like Huawei did.
The hard part is designing a low-distance node fab, which only Samsung, TSMC, and Intel do. There are hundreds of no-name companies that design CPUs, yet there are only 3 companies in the world that do low-distance node fab.
The main power of a CPU comes from fabrication tech, as lower distance between transistors increases power and reduces power consumption, since distance is factored into the power consumption formula. "Design" rarely impacts anything as long as there are no obvious bottlenecks. This is why Samsung focused on fab tech over CPU designs, since fab tech is far more important than CPU designs when it comes to CPU.
Now that Samsung is ahead of TSMC in node processes, they're now designing their own CPU.
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- 23 Apr 2015
Plame yourself for your crappy, old products! They are basically releasing same SoC for 2 years now!
Exynos >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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- 23 Apr 2015
Will this is pretty good
It's a lesson for them to get to innovate at the maxx
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- 23 Apr 2015
No.Its exynos 7420 > snapdragon 810.SD decided to rest on their achievements and they got the boot.But they will definitely comeback strong with sd820.
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- 23 Apr 2015
Qualcomm chips are make by TSMC, a Taiwanese company. That's why got such quality…
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- 23 Apr 2015
mmj321, 23 Apr 2015Wow everybody seems to blame samsung in some way or the oth... morei stand with u on this note.
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- 23 Apr 2015
Exynos > Snapdragon...!
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- 23 Apr 2015
Frankly, if other OEMs have access to the latest A and Exynos SoC, no one will pay for Qualcomm which is lagging behind Apple in design and Samsung in fabrication.
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- 23 Apr 2015
At some point Qualcomm can blame Samsung for accusing an overheating issue on s810. It maybe true for two device, but it's just two. If you look further, Samsung did accused Qualcomm right after the release of their latest exymus. Qualcomm should sue Samsung for that grave market cheating. I hope you won't call it a racist if I say cheating to gain advantage in Korea is a culture.
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- 23 Apr 2015
BassamEl, 23 Apr 2015BTW , In the Snapdragon you have Exynos Processors. Just di... moreAre you high?
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- 23 Apr 2015
Qualcomm has to get back into making custom CPU cores again ASAP, using ARM's braindead designs will drive them into poverty.
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- 23 Apr 2015
BassamEl, 23 Apr 2015BTW , In the Snapdragon you have Exynos Processors. Just di... moreAhahah, what are you smoking? Exynos CPU? LOL! Theres no such thing, Samsung has always bought license for ARM processors, and now Qualcomm does the same, hence they are falling out of favor, especially since the big.little design is defective by design.
Currently only Apple is making great custom CPUs based on ARM architecture, samsung has never done this as its not that easy and copying isnt an option so they cannot use their default method of stealing.
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- 23 Apr 2015
I hope they don't cut R&D department budget. Motorola, Sony, SonyEricsson, Siemens, Nokia and a ton of others did that before they died, or came close to that state.
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- 23 Apr 2015
Even Intel entered the competition .