Samsung to produce Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 chips on its 14nm FinFET process

14 January, 2016
It is now clear that the Snapdragon 820 will be produced using the same second generation 14nm FinFET technology, used for the Exynos 8 Octa family.

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AnonD-75819, 14 Jan 2016Both are moving away from ARM architecture. Does this mean ... moreNo, it was due to 20nm leaky process at high clocks.

    After the "chipgate" situation on Apple's iPhone 6s, I am asking to myself: is this 14nm process really a good choice? TSMC's offer - which uses a 16nm process - had better battery life and less heat, alltough it is a small difference, it is there. And for Qualcomm - after the Snapdragon 810 feedback and bad talk - it is very important that this 820 is as good as it can be! What is your opinion? If you have knowledge on this matter, I would appreciate your contribution.

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      • 14 Jan 2016

      Anonymous, 14 Jan 2016But wouldn't Samsung water down SD820 to make their Exynos ... moreThat's illegal. Besides, Qualcomm would know if the the end product did not meet their standards and specifications.

      Also Samsung's semiconductor foundry is separate from their chip design team.

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        • 14 Jan 2016

        Both are moving away from ARM architecture. Does this mean heating problem was due to ARM??

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          • 14 Jan 2016

          But wouldn't Samsung water down SD820 to make their Exynos better?

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            • 14 Jan 2016

            Why is there a red arrow pointing up on the speed meter thing. If you go up (counter clockwise) your speed goes down. That's not good.

            Then there's a green downwards arrow on the battery indicating that the battery charge will go down and the green color is telling you that's a good thing.

            Not very good image choices there. Hope the architectural choices they've made are a lot better.

              Anonymous, 14 Jan 2016i can "smell" early version of 820 maybe have heat issue l... moreI can't believe if it will happen again. I mean don't they test the chips before making them go in market? When they do contract with certain company to power phones with sd , I believe, the very first model of the phone IS A MUST to test. And why they don't do that? What if Qualcomm tries to release it and make people think that they can fool people and that 'they will not feel that overheat at 100°c' lol, please, no more qualcomm

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                AnonD-43988, 14 Jan 2016Hope the Qualcomm chip is issue-free this time around.Should be, I think a lot of the issue's with the 810 were down to the A57 cores running at high frequencies on the 20nm process.

                Plus Qualcomm are at their best when using their own custom CPU cores.

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                  • 14 Jan 2016

                  Android Hero, 14 Jan 2016Does all that means that sd820 will have a lot of problems ... moreI'm afraid not, by producing a chip using the mentioned process won't change the structure of it, it's just like the end user product. Just like Designed in California and Assembled in China

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                    • 14 Jan 2016

                    i can "smell" early version of 820
                    maybe have heat issue like 810

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 14 Jan 2016

                      More chipset design blueprints for Samsung! Apple here, AMD there, nVidia this, Qualcomm that. Maybe next time Intel and/or TSMC gets in on the fun bunch but just a hunch

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                        AnonD-370043, 14 Jan 2016No samsung just make cpu ... All the design made by Qualcom... moreWhy the next Snapdragon generation have to be manufactured by TSMC? By chance Samsung are incompetents?

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                          • 14 Jan 2016

                          They kinda have to... Else it would not scale clockwise (or would throttle a lot like SD810).

                          Qualcomm welcome to 2015! (SD820 is what SD810 *should* have had been)

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                            Hope the Qualcomm chip is issue-free this time around.

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                              • 14 Jan 2016

                              One day 8nm FinFet chipset may be 8990 Deca will be produce by Samsung.

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                                Android Hero, 14 Jan 2016Does all that means that sd820 will have a lot of problems ... moreNo samsung just make cpu ... All the design made by Qualcomm...I hope Qualcomm will choose Tsmc chip in their next generation Soc...

                                  Does all that means that sd820 will have a lot of problems flashing custom ROMs just like exynos?

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                                    And what about the devices that were already introduced with Snap 820? Are those chips made with Samsung as well? It's clear that Qualcomm doesn't do well lately - I'm afraid it will fall down in a minute.