New Motorola phone with Snapdragon 835 SoC, and Android 7.1.1 spotted on Geekbench

21 January 2017
Given the model number (XT1650), the handset could be the Moto Z (2017).

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  • 31 Jan 2017

J o m s, 24 Jan 2017Multicore performance is important on any OS except iOS wit... moreWhat was the last iPhone you used? 3GS?

    Anonymous, 22 Jan 2017By the way who cares about multi core score.Multicore performance is important on any OS except iOS with fake multitasking.

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      • 24 Jan 2017

      Anonymous, 22 Jan 2017When compared to A10 Fusion, the multi core is good, but th... moreIt's not a matter of want (re the single core scores for Apple) but ability. No one with an ARM arch license, other than apple, has been able to build such a monster. Honestly, it's probably all about cost, though, since the cyclone+ have such a wide issue and dispatch. So, maybe you're right, but then why is that? Consider that iPhones really only this dominance in two (related) areas: certain benchmarks and DOM construction. In everyday usage, iPhones and Android devices provide very similar experiences.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 23 Jan 2017

        well the 2016 Moto Z is XT1650-03 (in Europe).. so very likely to be an upgraded Z
        (the Z play is XT1635-02).

        Could be they brought the Z Force over the pond, and gave it some steroids.. if we are lucky.

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          • Anonymous
          • L89
          • 23 Jan 2017

          Perfect... I have a Z Force and my girlfriend has a Z Play, 2 phones with 1 day battery with full use and gaming, and 2 mods, the hasselblad is amazing zoom in concerts and is 100% optical zoom and stabilized and the JBL sounds, works perfects when you do a ride for the park in bicycle.... Ill waiting the new model with calm :)

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            • Anonymous
            • Y2t
            • 22 Jan 2017

            AnonD-528139, 22 Jan 2017the question remains, do we need 8 cores?. whatever good c... moreHave you noticed that the octa core flagship chips are comprised of two clusters of four cores? They are essentially two quad core chips set up in such a way that maximizes power and efficiency. If they had not done this then they would have to sacrifice power for efficiency, which is kinda what they did with the 820, which was why it was inferior to all its flagship competition in terms of CPU performance. This did translate to real world performance too. The 820 was slower than all competing chips when it came to game load times.

              Anonymous, 22 Jan 2017When compared to A10 Fusion, the multi core is good, but th... moreMulticore is not good because the app is worthless. Firstly, it gives more points to HTML/JS-related test than RAM speed which is more critical. You do a side-by-side browser loading test, iCrap is slower in comparison to any flagship Android phones. Secondly, it doesn't scale up well with multicore SoC. In fact it only maximizes Core 0.

              The single score we are seeing here is from Core 0 only i.e efficiency core 1.9 Ghz.

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                • 22 Jan 2017

                Zenodroid, 22 Jan 2017A phone need to be able to call and send text messages, so ... more"Win xp and 2gb ram is also enough for a good computer," nah lol

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                  • 22 Jan 2017

                  Jimmy chow, 22 Jan 2017Why use a picture of last years motoflop. Just confusing people. Sales wise maybe but the phone itself is fantastic.

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                    • 22 Jan 2017

                    AnonD-576060, 22 Jan 2017I think 4GB of RAM is too enough for a smartphone even it i... moreI have one too,with 4GB of Ram,it runs windows 10 64 bit version
                    It is buttery smooth too

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                      • 22 Jan 2017

                      Anonymous, 22 Jan 2017 Win xp 2gb with the today 'thirsty' apps? Painful Browsi... moreNo you don't if you're still using XP on a 2GB setup lol

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                        • 22 Jan 2017

                        AnonD-491921, 22 Jan 2017Yes 6GB maybe but i think they will only Go for 8GB for nex... moreI think 4GB of RAM is too enough for a smartphone even it is a flagship.
                        My laptop has only 4GB ram and does a good job and I have another laptop that has 12GB and both perform almost the same.

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                          AnonD-632062, 22 Jan 2017Not really! Any self-respecting manufacturer hoping to keep... moreYes 6GB maybe but i think they will only Go for 8GB for next year.Moto Z(2017) has only 4GB of Ram

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                            • 22 Jan 2017

                            AnonD-491921, 21 Jan 2017Seems like RAM craze stopped at 4GBNot really! Any self-respecting manufacturer hoping to keep up with the latest trends (and future-proof their phone for customer's satisfaction) will have 6GB RAM in their 2017 flagship line-up.
                            Heck, we recently even had the world's first 8GB RAM smartphone unveiled....

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                              • 22 Jan 2017

                              Zenodroid, 22 Jan 2017A phone need to be able to call and send text messages, so ... more Win xp 2gb with the today 'thirsty' apps? Painful Browsing horrible tasks.You've no idea about computers

                                Anonymous, 22 Jan 2017Go to z force review, where z defeat note 7 with RAM 6Gb. B... moreA phone need to be able to call and send text messages, so we really don't need all that they can today. That is what you are trying to say. 4gb ram is about to be outdated as standard, and therefore it should not be standard in a brand new flagship. Win xp and 2gb ram is also enough for a good computer, but I guess you have at least 8gb ram and win 10 on your computer ;-)

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • tSe
                                  • 22 Jan 2017

                                  There is still enough space in the chin area, so please don't use on screen buttons, specially for amoled display.

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                                    • 22 Jan 2017

                                    Anonymous, 22 Jan 2017When compared to A10 Fusion, the multi core is good, but th... moreTwo things...
                                    1. Apple makes their own SOC and os. Which allows them to design and change both according to their need. Hence, the efficiency,utilisation and performance factor is always gonna be higher than android OS and the SOC it uses.

                                    Secondly, android is open source os. Most of the companies customise its material design, theme, features etc but not its core and ram management. That's why android devices score less on single core than A10 on compute performance tests like geekbench.

                                    If we really want to compare SOCs, then we should run those tests on android with A10 or iOS with SD835. That will be true apples to apples(no pun intended). But, it will always remain a pipe dream...

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • 3SL
                                      • 22 Jan 2017

                                      AnonD-528139, 22 Jan 2017the question remains, do we need 8 cores?. whatever good c... moreYea, that's why Intel i7 is still stuck at quad core and laptop and lower i5 and i7 are dual cores. Although GHz is able to be higher if there is proper cooling or the architecture is good enough to handle more. My dream is still a processor (looking at apple because everybody else would be too shy to "downgrade" from 8 to 4-5 cores) a very big leading core, 2 mid-sized cores and 2 power saving cores. And then the system would automatically switch on and off the cores from what there is needed. It doesn't even have to be clusters, but the system picks a combination of which cores will be best to solve a specific task. And of course all cores would be able for little overclocking (but not too much, we don't want a new Note7) and underclocking

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • 3SL
                                        • 22 Jan 2017

                                        J o m s, 21 Jan 2017Then again this worthless benchmark is hitting cores this w... moreBy the way who cares about multi core score.

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