KGI: Apple to use FaceID on all iPhones next year

20 September 2017
That doesn't mean the company has given up on fingerprint readers - but they are a backup.

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  • 22 Sep 2017

Someone, 21 Sep 2017You clearly aren't an Apple user or at least don't own a ne... moreYou do know that 3D Touch is BS ? Every screen has a touch sensitivity if one adds it even with only software layer. It just measures the surface area in contact with the finger. The more of it there is, the harder you are pressing the screen. The less there is, the less you're pressing it. Not exactly rocket science. Not to mention long press basically does that anyway.

    Anonymous, 21 Sep 2017... Not just 2 pressure points. Its fully capable of detect... moreAbsolutely! If someone put some amount of physical effort to do something, it must accomplish something (like Camera Shutter Click) and shall NOT lead to something else further. This method of 3D touch is mere long press and it is not doing anything special than Google Long Press (in Pixel and Nexus Phones in their 7.0 OS). It merely giving menu options like Google. Not a great feature.

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      • 21 Sep 2017

      Yea Apple knows that removing fingerprint reader was a mistake now wants to justify their stupid ideas

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        • 21 Sep 2017

        AnonD-632062, 20 Sep 2017"The in-display fingerprint reader reportedly remains a cha... moreYou clearly aren't an Apple user or at least don't own a newer iPhone. I use my 3D touch all the time and is a great time saver for shortcuts and especially with pictures and websites. 3D touch doesn't just replicate a "long press" as in certain apps/sites/features its depends on how hard you press the screen too in order to get a certain result. Also if it was such a waste of time then why are Samsung and certain other Android manufacturers slowly implementing this tech into their handsets even though it's not fully supported by the stock Android software?

          *IF* FaceID works like it was advertised, then yes, it is better than a fingerprint scanner. It just remains to be seen.

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            • 21 Sep 2017

            Anonymous, 21 Sep 2017If someone have any connections with internal people workin... moreAlso remove iTunes and make it plug n play, add sd card, head phone jack, usb otg and change OS to Android =)

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              • 21 Sep 2017

              Apple is always making their unit unique. They don't want to be the same as what other smartphone has. Same like for the headphone jack, they removed it and make it their own.

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                • 21 Sep 2017

                Anonymous, 21 Sep 2017LOL you are ignorant.. Samsung Note 1 can already distingui... moreLMFAO..haptic feedback and pressure points are the same now are they? Define ignorant and you'll see your face there.

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                  • 21 Sep 2017

                  If someone have any connections with internal people working at Apple then please tell them to quit Lightning Connectors and switch to USB 3.1 Type-C Connectors for the next iPhones , the whole world wants latest high speed industry standard USB Type-C Connectors on iPhones , please remove that 5 years old , slow and outdated Lightning Connectors , USB Type-C is the future , all android phones have it , Apple is very behind .

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                    • 21 Sep 2017

                    Anonymous, 21 Sep 2017... compared to just 2 pressures of Apple force touch... Not just 2 pressure points. Its fully capable of detecting more, just that it triggers at 2 different thresholds.

                    3D touch rely on a few tech..
                    1. haptic feedback. (not all have it)
                    2. Pressure sensor. (Which all new phones should have)

                    Apple is the first to give the illusion of hard press via the haptic feedback feeling.

                    However that said, it adds another layer of complexity to the user, whom they may or may not get it. So, this feature have being buried as a "shortcut feature or right click on mouse feature". And thus not very popular or used by apps often. SO its not really a good feature like the touchID, whereby everyone uses it.

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                      • 21 Sep 2017

                      Anonymous, 21 Sep 2017LOL you are ignorant.. Samsung Note 1 can already distingui... more... compared to just 2 pressures of Apple force touch

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                        AnonD-701401, 20 Sep 2017Exactly..and everyone should still listen to casette tapes ... moreLOL you are ignorant.. Samsung Note 1 can already distinguish 1024 different pressure on its screen..

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                          Bazemk, 21 Sep 20173D Touch is usefull once you get used to it. There’s a diff... moreStill the feature is redundant.. Long press can be set the duration to as short as you want.. Apple will be 3~5 years late figuring out how to include under screen scanner because of the thick 3d touch while others will start using under screen fingerprint scanner as soon as next year

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                            • 21 Sep 2017

                            What's next? DNA ID?

                            A phone that can prick your finger to unlock phone is great from Apple. That's most secure. Bring back Touch ID for that iPhone X.

                              AnonD-632062, 20 Sep 2017"The in-display fingerprint reader reportedly remains a cha... more3D Touch is usefull once you get used to it. There’s a difference between long press and a little harder press on the display. Unless you are a butterfly :-)

                                AnonD-438993, 20 Sep 2017What happens if you hurt your head and have a bandage on it... moreUrban legend says that in that case there’s a thing called passcode

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                                  • 21 Sep 2017

                                  AnonD-535480, 20 Sep 2017If Apple actually listened to it's users and people on foru... moreOkay not to that extent
                                  But keep the 3.5 mm jack for example
                                  Or at least make a seperate port which can be used for hearing music/movies etc along with charging simultaneously
                                  Not bringing back the 3.5 mm jack is not listening to the users
                                  Face ID
                                  We all saw how 'good' its demo was

                                  It may improve later but at least till it becomes good enough how about they keep touch id

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                                    • 20 Sep 2017

                                    AnonD-632062, 20 Sep 2017"The in-display fingerprint reader reportedly remains a cha... moreExactly..and everyone should still listen to casette tapes and watch movies through their VCRs..

                                    Step back into. your time machine and go back to where you came from.

                                    Long press replicates but its not the same. Hell even samsung copied force touch on s8.

                                      Fingerprint security likely returns next year along with 4gb on the successor to the X. Skip the X because we all know Apple rehashes the same design for years but with improved internals and refined features. Face ID will get even faster as years goes by and harder to fool.

                                      I cooled of getting iPhone X because I really do despise glass rears. I'm pretty content with my SE which is only used as an iPod touch because it's difficult to unlock it since it is an AT&T GoPhone that needs six months of service from them. But I prefer matte plastic or metal over glass any day. Glass makes it easier to dirty my other devices that hide smudges better because of sticky glass can get with just a little oil.

                                      Just save $1000 bucks and wait on the s model for it. The X is like the 4, 5, and 6. Get the stronger twin will the the s model. X will only age as long as the 7+ and 8+. Like in laptops, the more RAM, the longer it will get updates. iOS is becoming more like Android and it needs more RAM. Not iust 3. It needs 4gb minimum for 64-bit. This is why the 5s and 6 are struggling with iOS11.

                                        AnonD-535480, 20 Sep 2017If Apple actually listened to it's users and people on foru... moreAbsolutely spot on!!