Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 gets detailed: 25% faster CPU, 20% faster graphics inside

04 December 2019
Expect to see it in all flagship Android devices that aren't made by Samsung and Huawei.

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  • Anonymous
  • tZk
  • 05 Dec 2019

What.....wait..
only 20% better ??..that is nonsense..

    Anonymous, 05 Dec 2019Does the A13 support QHD+ 144hz displays? Does it incorpora... moreThere's no need for "updatable gpu drivers" on an iphone. Apple updates the whole phone drivers for 5 years...

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      • Anonymous
      • d$A
      • 05 Dec 2019

      Anonymous, 05 Dec 2019Does the A13 support QHD+ 144hz displays? Does it incorpora... moreSo you forget the iPad Pros which had 120Hz and QHD+ for years using the A-series chip?

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        • mtj
        • 05 Dec 2019

        Love the Community, 05 Dec 2019Yeah. Qualcomm needs to stop using that outdated A55 cores ... moreThe Cortex A55 CPU cores are the latest power efficient cores available form ARM. So Qualcomm doesn't have to do anything.

          So its basically around 10% faster over SD855+. Meh...

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            • Anonymous
            • 42v
            • 05 Dec 2019

            Stuart98, 05 Dec 2019It's already weaker than the A13 bionic. Apple is going to ... moreDoes the A13 support QHD+ 144hz displays? Does it incorporate Forward Rendering? Does it use updateable GPU drivers? No, it does not, so ultimately it looses here no matter if it's a half second faster than the 865.

              Meh, BORING. Only optional lpddr5 (it still can use lpddr4, so cheapskate oem will use it)

              Mediatek ones is much more exciting with 5G-ca, WiFi 6, and AV1 support!!

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                • Nik
                • mtj
                • 05 Dec 2019

                Stuart98, 05 Dec 2019It's already weaker than the A13 bionic. Apple is going to ... moreSnapdragon 865 is and SOC not a "processor".
                Taking is consideration that the SD 865 will support LPDDR5 memory it will have an advantage vs the A13 iphones in maxed out Android phones.

                I imagine a OnePlus 8 Pro with 12GB LPDDR5 RAM, 256GB UFS 3.0 and 120hz display.
                How would and iphone perform better in real world usage in comparison to such an Android phone?

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                  • mtj
                  • 05 Dec 2019

                  Anonymous, 05 Dec 2019855+ gpu was 15% more than 855 865 gpu is 20% more . . ... moreSD 855+'s GPU was UP TO 15% faster due to higher clock speeds.
                  It's basically a gaming optimized SD 855.

                  The SD 865 will offer a solid 25% generational improvement due to an improved architecture with the added benefit of better power efficiency and sustained performance than the SD855+
                  We will most likely see a SD 865+ next year as well.

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                    • nRt
                    • 05 Dec 2019

                    only the 875 would be a substantial upgrade: 5nm, new gpu generation and an integrated 5g modem!

                    It seems that qualcomm had moved to a 3-year cycle (on the same process and design), intead of a 2-year one, like in the past.

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                      • 05 Dec 2019

                      Stuart98, 05 Dec 2019It's already weaker than the A13 bionic. Apple is going to ... moreYeah. Qualcomm needs to stop using that outdated A55 cores and evolve it to A56 or A57 with 7nm or 5nm process. Better yet, the A55 should be replaced with A73 chips and downclock it but at least, it's miles stronger than 1.8GHz A55 cores.

                      Qualcomm may have a new architecture a la DynamIQ but they're treating it like it's the s**t big.Little architecture.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • gJt
                        • 05 Dec 2019

                        Shadocx, 05 Dec 2019They're having a summit each year in December, I don't know... moreYeah but it rocks !

                          It's already weaker than the A13 bionic. Apple is going to have another dominant year in the processor game. Even the A12 bionic from 2018 is better than the snapdragon 865. Try harder next time qualcomm...

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                            • Anonymous
                            • gJt
                            • 05 Dec 2019

                            sanshiro, 05 Dec 2019I have a SD835 and it's fast. An upgrade is not necessary. ... moreJust try an 855+.....

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                              • Anonymous
                              • d%u
                              • 05 Dec 2019

                              Just plain boring especially the 865 series

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 05 Dec 2019

                                Anonymous, 05 Dec 2019What phone are you using? I'm sure a jump from a 835-865 wo... moreBut it's not worth the price

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                                  • txp
                                  • 05 Dec 2019

                                  Love the Community, 05 Dec 2019- Bluetooth 5.1, aptX TWS, aptX Adaptive, and aptX Voice ... moreDepend on the source, if the source is compressed audio (MP3, AAC), the question should be answered the DAC inside receiver, but if the source is Hi-Fi (Flac, WAV, ALAC) then its not as good as wired, yet, for its hi bitrate.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • DkW
                                    • 05 Dec 2019

                                    Is it better performance and effeciency at the same time or is it like

                                    1.better performance for same energy.
                                    2.same perform for better energy efficiency.


                                    3.or both?

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                                      • 05 Dec 2019

                                      - Bluetooth 5.1, aptX TWS, aptX Adaptive, and aptX Voice

                                      Does these make Bluetooth headphones as good as wired headphones? I love playing rhythm games and pixel perfect audio cues are necessary. I hope these lower latency so much like below 40.

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                                        • 05 Dec 2019

                                        Anonymous, 05 Dec 2019SD865+ is the real version No it's not. The Plus variant is only clock speed increases. Nothing more. No additional GPU core count, no additional tech, just an overclock that you wish your mobile phone can do that like a Gaming PC.