Apple introduces macOS Big Sur with redesigned UI and updated apps

22 June 2020
Features a brand new UI and significant updates to Safari, Messages and Maps.

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  • 21 Jan 2021

I have used many different operating systems over the years. Windows has also gone through some very bad user interfaces such as Windows 8. I don't think Big Sur is close to being a Windows 8 failure, but it certainly has some design aspects that simply don't work. The broader ideal was to make MacOS more iPad OS like to solidify the Apple OS ecosystem. This probably satisfies the users who use both IOS devices and Mac's closely.
Personally I saw nothing wrong with the overall design of MacOS, and Apple could have done a more incremental design change and it would have been better accepted.

    Not planning to upgrade soon due to bad graphics performance. However I feel like they are making decent progress. I like the approaches of simplifying notifications and unifying icons across OS's. Maybe in 2030 I will be able to enjoy a decent laptop.

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      • Anonymous
      • KAq
      • 29 Jun 2020

      lot of insipiration from KDE desktop envirnement.

        Anonym, 25 Jun 2020Is that untouchable as in Edge or Cortana? Nice way to make... moreYeah, what he/she said. Relax Android Master, it's okay.
        Windows are better for Windows users,
        Macs are better for Macs users, &
        Linux are better for those in need too.

        What suit your needs, suit the best.
        Not everyone have the same needs you know?
        And even sometimes our own different preferences works for our different selves.

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          • Anonym
          • Jyb
          • 25 Jun 2020

          Android Master, 25 Jun 2020You have used Windows? Are you sure? A few posts back you ... moreIs that untouchable as in Edge or Cortana? Nice way to make an argument that something is superior, but then admit some of the key components of the Microsoft experience are simply unbearable.

          Furthermore, everyone has different needs that may be meet using different tools. Windows does have more tools from 3rd-parties. However, quantity is not quality, and it massively sucks in some use-cases. If you are a audio professional you will run away from Windows -- the way the drivers and kernel scheduler work allow for all sorts of artifacts in what should have been a pristine performance by a professional. That's why those guys only use macOS or a Linux system, peempt-RT.

          Once you escape the blue-collar "heavy duty" mantra, you'll quickly realize that Windows has plenty of deficiencies that were never addressed (such as slow AF IO) or a kernel scheduler that just can't get it right for many core processors such as EPIC/Threadripper, which is causing top professional to jump to Linux -- not Windows. Mind you, when you are building your own tools, it really doesn't matter what is the existing ecosystem. All that matters is getting the better base, and that certainly isn't Windows (as popular as it may be).

            LilPhone, 25 Jun 2020Every statement you made is a fact that is somewhat false. ... moreYou have used Windows? Are you sure?
            A few posts back you were comparing Cortana and Edge browser when no one in their right minds use these things.
            You fail to account that Windows heavily relies on its vast ecosystem of 3rd party x86 based apps.
            This ecosystem of softwares and services is untouchable in the PC World.
            MacOS can't compete with that in a 100 years.

            You clearly don't have a clue about functionality provided by these 3rd party softwares coz you never used one.
            Keep using inferior Toy OS.

            Only people who buy MacOS in 2020 are ppl who want to show off Apple logo.
            Plenty of ppl like that who think, because it's expensive, it must be good.
            Tech community unanimously laugh at the capabilities of Windows when compared to functionally challenged MacOS.

            Apple lost the PC war long back.
            All that is left are delusional iGadget users who simply can't digest reality and want to justify their expensive purchase.

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              • LilPhone
              • xZI
              • 25 Jun 2020

              Android Master, 25 Jun 2020Every statement is a FACT. No need for proofs. MacOS ca... moreEvery statement you made is a fact that is somewhat false.

              Clearly you have not even used MacOS. I have used Windows, because I owned a 2016 Acer Aspire (S5) laptop.

              Your argument is complete garbage and a cheap troll. Try harder to convince me about the Samsung and Exynos stuff. Facts are facts. Youtubers and websites have mentioned these and you are in denial.

              Please try harder.

                LilPhone, 25 Jun 2020Plus your statement is false news. Prove what you're saying... moreEvery statement is a FACT.
                No need for proofs.

                MacOS can't even be push to its full capabilities coz lack of heavy duty application Support.
                Half the job can't be done on MacOS since it has no wide support like Windows - FACT.

                There aren't even many softwares that can be run on Mac OS.
                It's accustomed to lagging behind for years now - FACT.

                Windows meets requirement of every kind of user - FACT.

                It seems you are allergic to FACTS.
                You simply can't digest the fact that MacOS is simply inferior to Windows.
                Apple tapped out to Windows long back.

                I feel bad for you man, always endorsing an inferior operating system whether it is MacOS or iOS.There is a reason why Windows is the first choice of OS on PC platform not MacOS.
                The reason is coz it is simply the BEST.
                Clearly you have zero experience using the BEST.

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                  • LilPhone
                  • xZI
                  • 25 Jun 2020

                  Android Master, 24 Jun 2020Maybe you aren't reading every sentence carefully. I'll r... morePlus your statement is false news. Prove what you're saying are right to me. Yeah OK MacOS doesn't work for many games.

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                    • LilPhone
                    • xZI
                    • 25 Jun 2020

                    Android Master, 24 Jun 2020Maybe you aren't reading every sentence carefully. I'll r... moreSee? Copy and paste master. He did read every sentence carefully, maybe it's your hypocrisy and ill-temper that makes you have to unnecessarily repeat those useless paragraphs you wrote.

                      Anonymous, 24 Jun 2020OK listen here you little Windows Defender Hero Guy, the OS... moreMaybe you aren't reading every sentence carefully.
                      I'll repeat again.

                      MacOS can't even be push to its full capabilities coz lack of heavy duty application support.
                      Half the job can't be done on MacOS since it has no wide support like Windows.
                      There aren't even many softwares that can be run on Mac OS.
                      It's accustomed to lagging behind for years now.

                      Windows meets requirement of every kind of user.
                      MacOS is simply nothing but ToyOS.

                      At the end of the day, Windows is the first choice of OS on PC platform.
                      Macs will always be inferior.
                      I am not the type of person to use an inferior product.
                      Maybe you are accustomed to using inferior products.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • m5g
                        • 24 Jun 2020

                        Android Master, 24 Jun 2020You have no better reply to facts I just posted. I'll repe... moreOK listen here you little Windows Defender Hero Guy, the OS you praise and protect so much is so widespread solely because it just so happens that most companies and their offices, robotics and machinery all work on Windows alone. Which massively increases their market share. But this means nothing to the consumers as they don't need to rely on specific Windows software.
                        Did you know that most servers in the world run on Linux? In this regard, we should all then start using Linux because it's the OS of choice for servers? Even though it's lacking in features and consistency and any GUI you choose is still massively unpolished and most of the times just ridden with bugs. Yeah.

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                          • Anonym
                          • Jyb
                          • 24 Jun 2020

                          Anonymous, 24 Jun 2020This must be a generational thing - I have never had an int... moreIn my experience, age or generation is not a factor. Once you figure out the purpose of a touchbar, you'll quickly find uses for the touchscreen. In fact, I'd rather have a full keyboard with actual keys paired with a touchscreen (for the odd uses of the touchbar), than be missing the function keys and rely solely on a pre-touchscreen stopgap solution like the touchbar (that does have its own uses, but is surpassed by a touchscreen and direct interaction).

                          In sum, I could care less for touch, but I do value a good keyboard. I just can't have a good keyboard experience until the physical function keys return (for the better configured machines). If you understand this, then jump on the touchscreen train, as that is the only feasible way of getting back the full keyboard. Meanwhile, that future is already here thanks to the Thinkpads.

                            Android Master, 23 Jun 2020Cleaner Ui? LOL ever heard of customizing Windows accordin... moreI'm past 40, use both Windows and MacOS. I prefer the Mac, and so do many, many other actual adults I know. I also prefer Android to iOS, just in case you try the fanboy thing.

                              LilPhone, 23 Jun 2020Of course you're saying this because you've never tried one... moreYou have no better reply to facts I just posted.
                              I'll repeat again.

                              MacOS can't even push to its full capabilities coz lack of heavy duty application support.
                              Half the job can't be done on MacOS since it has no wide support like Windows.
                              There aren't even many softwares that can be run on Mac OS.
                              It's accustomed to lagging behind for years now.

                              Windows meets requirement of every kind of user.
                              MacOS is simply nothing but ToyOS.

                              At the end of the day, Windows is the first choice of OS on PC platform.
                              Macs will always be inferior.
                              I am not the type of person to use an inferior product.
                              Maybe you are accustomed to using inferior products.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • 81X
                                • 24 Jun 2020

                                Anonym, 23 Jun 2020Could we please now have a macOS that can uses direct touch... moreThis must be a generational thing - I have never had an interest in a touch-screen laptop or desktop.

                                  Anonymous, 23 Jun 2020It's not ios, you can easily uninstall the pre installed an... moreWindows defender has improved sure but real power of windows 10 lies in the vast ecosystem of (.exe based softwares)
                                  Kaspersky and Bit defender are much better Antivirus solutions compared to stock windows defender.

                                    LilPhone, 23 Jun 2020Of course you're saying this because you've never tried one... moreYou are comparing Windows default apps not taking into consideration the vast majority of third party apps that give the ecosystem a huge lead.
                                    These are the softwares most people use.
                                    No one bothers with Cortana or edge.

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                                      • DLLM
                                      • 5Mb
                                      • 23 Jun 2020

                                      LilPhone, 23 Jun 2020Of course you're saying this because you've never tried one... moredon't waste your time with anybody with "android" on their nicknames, they are clearly biased and trolling.

                                      back to your point, microsoft edge built with chromium is actually better than chrome and other browser. Go download it if windows hasn't pushed updates through windows update.

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                                        • LilPhone
                                        • xZI
                                        • 23 Jun 2020

                                        Anonymous, 23 Jun 2020It's not ios, you can easily uninstall the pre installed an... moreMe too. I prefer to use Windows Defender and update it on a regular basis. Even if it's running on a dual core 6th gen i5 it's already very slow and opening multiple apps are a pain in the a**. Even a 2019 MacBook Air with underpowered chip is still faster than that.

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