YouTube details its three-strike test for ad blocking
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Marco M, 07 Jul 2023Incorrect 1) Youtube's costs are greater then their... moreNot wanting my life spammed with adverts does not make me a freeloader, should we also pay companies not to post their crappy advertising through our doors, and for people who cannot afford the monthly subs for YT then the advert to them is pointless because it's unlikely they can afford the product, maybe we should make it compulsory to watch a minimum of 8 hrs advertising and make people pay for watching the advert too, i couldn't care a less about advertising revenue, like here in the UK i'm expected to pay for a TV licence and i cannot stop the adverts clawing at my brain to buy shit i do not need
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- 09 Jul 2023
Marco M, 07 Jul 2023"Example, you bought toyota car and toyota decides to ... moreYou are desperate for the last word, huh?
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- 07 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 07 Jul 20231) , 2) not my problem, I do not own YT, I did not make the... more"Example, you bought toyota car and toyota decides to have ads on YT. "
No, that is not how that works. Toyota has zero to say on how youtube runs their services, regardless if it is running on their cars infotainment system. Same goes for TV manufactureres and smart TV set top boxes, etc. It is youtube that decides over their paltfor and they have decided that users can watch for free against watching ads (due to ad revenue) or they can be paying subscribers and watch ad free.
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- 07 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 07 Jul 2023Every normal human knows:
- that ads are annoying(and we k... moreIn other words, you are also not supporting gsmarena and you are blocking ads keeping this site alive as well.
A pathetic freeloader you are indeed.
Please ask gsmarena to add a subscription service, that makes the site ad free for paying subscribers, if you don't want them to be supported by ad revenue.
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- 07 Jul 2023
Marco M, 07 Jul 2023"I paid for the goods provided at store #1, therefore ... moreEvery normal human knows:
- that ads are annoying(and we knows serveral levels)
- the purpose of the most ads is to mislead many people and make benefit for just one or few people
- there is more human friendly options how to advert something to people
- it is laziest option how to earn money
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and many people also knows, that masively block access to web page content for people not watching ads would end up with closing service for everybody.
It does not matter how I looks in your eyes, people reading your posts are making image about you.
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- 07 Jul 2023
Marco M, 07 Jul 2023Incorrect
1) Youtube's costs are greater then their... more1) , 2) not my problem, I do not own YT, I did not make their decision how to earn money.
Example, you bought toyota car and toyota decides to have ads on YT. It is not my problem how YT and Toyota have agreements about ads model between them. Toyota already is using your money to support YT. It does not matter if the ads will be watched by people or not, toyota already has our money.
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- 07 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 07 Jul 2023For example I already supported several times wikipedia, be... more"I paid for the goods provided at store #1, therefore I am not stealing when I am taking goods provided from store #2. Plus there are many other who pay at store #2 anyways."
I don't care if you pay to support Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with the subject of this conversation which is YouTube. If you want to use youtube, but not see any ads, then pay up. Stop being such a horrible freeloader.
Alternatively you can accept to see the ads if you are either too poor, or don't use youtube enough, to justify paying for premium. But being a freeloader is just pathetic.
You are also quite active on this site. Are you supporting this site by allowing ads, or are you blocking the ads on this site as well? If everyone who uses gsmarena decided to do the same, how long do you think it would be until they have to block users with ad block?
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- 07 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 07 Jul 2023The costs of YT have already been paid by advertising compa... moreIncorrect
1) Youtube's costs are greater then their income from both premium subscribers and ad revenue
2) For free, ad supported users, Google does not get income if they use ad blockers. Again, you are a freeloader asking others to pay for you. Why is it so hard for you to admit you are a freeloader, when you obviously are?
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- 07 Jul 2023
Marco M, 07 Jul 2023You are a freeloader, plain and simple. You want someth... moreFor example I already supported several times wikipedia, because there are no ads so it make sense support them.
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- 07 Jul 2023
Marco M, 07 Jul 2023You are a freeloader, plain and simple. You want someth... moreThe costs of YT have already been paid by advertising companies from our money. We all are buying products and services in theses companies, therefore YT is still free.
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- 07 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 06 Jul 2023I know very well that:
YT is not paid service in terms of:... moreYou are a freeloader, plain and simple.
You want something, that costs money to provide to you, for free.
So a freeloader. A pathetic freeloader.
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- 06 Jul 2023
Marco M, 06 Jul 2023Any site anywhere can see what OS, browser, IP etc you have... moreI know very well that:
YT is not paid service in terms of:
- load public YT pages and watch videos on these pages...so I don't need money for this.
There is no paragraph in law in terms:
- I am obliged to watch advertisement
- I can't modify data in system RAM of my personal computer
I am also free to filter anything what is comming from the internet to my computer.
The only entities who are crying are those who signed an agreement between each other ...so advertisers and YT. They made some decision in the past so it is their problem now.
I don't care at all about YT three-strikes.
Ask lawyers and try next time. bye
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- 06 Jul 2023
Todd is King, 05 Jul 2023Actually, no, that's not true - trackers still follow ... moreSome ad blockers do also block trackers, but whether they block trackers or not doesn't really matter, as the purpose is to place targeted ads and with ad blocker no ads are shown. No ads and no preimum = no income = block the freeloader. Very simple.
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- 06 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 05 Jul 2023No Marco, dangerous game is when web page's code, whic... moreAny site anywhere can see what OS, browser, IP etc you have. This has been the case since at least the 90s.
Keep crying all you want, but there is no reason why any streaming platform and/or it publication cannot block your access when ad block is detected. They need to make a living and you try to get something without paying for it, is essentially a form of theft.
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- 06 Jul 2023
Time to move to RedTube after your three-strike.
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- 05 Jul 2023
Marco M, 05 Jul 2023No, using ad-block both makes ad tracking not possible, as ... moreActually, no, that's not true - trackers still follow you, even with an adblocker. You need something like Firefox and use dedicated profiles so they can't track you across them. That's how bad things are, and how little Google cares about my rights just so they stalk me and sell my data.
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- 05 Jul 2023
Marco M, 05 Jul 2023No, they are not playing a dangerous game with asking users... moreNo Marco, dangerous game is when web page's code, which is temporarily stored on our personal computers, is trying to detect which software are we running. That is the invasion of privacy.
Put tons of ads on web page is just an easy and fictional way how lazy people in management want to earn money and they like it. Their choice, their problem now.
Now your talk and writing make sense after you revealed focus of your profession. More ads/marketing more work for you.
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- 05 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 04 Jul 2023Marco, that is really nice what you wrote. You summarized b... more"People you called "freeloaders" and people like you - paying for not showing ads are in the same category because they do not represent an increase in the income of advertisers. . ."
The point of YouTube isn't to generate income to advertisers, it is to generate income to YouTube. This can be done directly through YouTube premium or by users watching ads and google selling (targeted) ad spaces to advertisers.
Btw, YouTube content creators get paid more per view from Premium users than AdSense.
YouTube Premium then, is more profitable than ads (per user) for YouTube and it's content creators.
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- 05 Jul 2023
Todd is King, 04 Jul 2023Dude, they track your movements over the web and sell your ... moreNo, using ad-block both makes ad tracking not possible, as well as it blocks the display of ads - which is the whole point of tracking and ad profiles.
What you are writing is what they do with user's who do not utilize ad-block.
Then their ad profile allows targeted ads and this generates ad revenue for YouTube. This contributes to keeping the service alive.
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- 05 Jul 2023
Bzuco, 04 Jul 2023Marco, that is really nice what you wrote. You summarized b... moreNo, they are not playing a dangerous game with asking users of the platform to either pay for their consumption directly trough subscription or support by allowing ads that generates ad revenue.
More and more online publications does the same, worldwide. People, and companies, are tired of the freeloaders. If ever you see someone complaining about "there's too many ads on this site" then guess what? It's could be alleviated if none of their users were freeloaders.
Good luck going to any store or service shop ask for a product or service without paying for it, or at least bartering with something.
Btw, ad blockers also block any useful information google could sell to advertisers and the whole point of selling/providing about a specific user is targeted ads, which doesn't work at all with adblock.
This is what I strongly disagree with:
"I want to use YouTube (and/or any other streaming service), but I don't want to pay for it. I also don't want to watch ads to be able to watch it "for free", I just want to watch completely for free with no ads. Just because."
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