Xiaomi and Leica set up an optical institute to co-develop smartphone cameras
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- 22 Feb 2024
zodiacfml, 22 Feb 2024can't believe Canon and Nikon still not in the smartph... moreIf a recognizable brand like Sony can't even beat Samsung phone sales in Japan, why should Canon+ Nikon consider entering a phone market..
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- 22 Feb 2024
can't believe Canon and Nikon still not in the smartphone space. Japan is truly ageing.
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- 22 Feb 2024
dcdev, 21 Feb 2024How? Can you imagine which part of sensor S24U uses? It sh... moreAt 5x and 10x, the photos of s24u are more clear
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PatDat, 22 Feb 2024Agree, I would go even further, and remove ultrawide, would... moreI use Ultrawide instead of a selfie cam. I find one from S23U too narrow and too poor quality, so when I am on vacation, UV is a selfie cam for me and my girlfriend.
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dcdev, 22 Feb 2024It"s your experience and your friend's experience... moreTrue that I don't have full statistics. But just go to any social media. Most of the photos are either from the main or some small zoom. I can say to you what you said - it's your experience, nothing else.
It is dark because you cannot make up any F number that you want. The F-number is the focal length/diameter of the lens. And that is another reason to go for smaller zooms. Because of that it is easier to implement better quality x3 lenses, than x10, x15, or even more crazy ones.
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SirArtur, 22 Feb 2024And I was not saying that nobody is using x10 zoom. I was s... moreIt"s your experience and your friend's experience, not statistic. I use x10 more often than x3.
On the other side, most of people don't have telephoto cameras, they use X1 and uw and don't worry.
BTW, that x10 isn't perfect, I would use it more often, but it's too dark.
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- 22 Feb 2024
Can we all just appreciate how hard manufacturers like Xiaomi are working to bring true pro level hardware to smartphone cameras? I mean seriously, all high megapixel, good quality glass on all focal lengths with a large main sensor and variable aperture? Who else is giving consumers this level of control and attention to detail. Wish we had more like this in the US.
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- 22 Feb 2024
Hopefully this won't be deleted.
I think physics will always win. Lower your expectations and if the results please you then be happy.
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- 22 Feb 2024
SirArtur, 22 Feb 2024And I was not saying that nobody is using x10 zoom. I was s... moreAgree, I would go even further, and remove ultrawide, would love bigger main sensor and telephoto 2x or 3x, instead of paying for ultrawide that I never use.
From 20k photos I did 30% is at 1x, 60% at 2x and maybe 10% at 3x.
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dcdev, 21 Feb 2024How? Can you imagine which part of sensor S24U uses?
It sh... moreS24u at 230mm is equivalent of 6mm2.
Yes, that is something between 1/4" and 1/5".
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- 22 Feb 2024
dcdev, 21 Feb 2024Leica makes money. Their cameras are overpriced.
Why not g... moreThey are all japanese.
No interest to get involved with chinese brands.
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thancui, 21 Feb 2024The cameras of all phone companies have reached their physi... moreExmor T increases light sensibility by 50% at least.
Exmor T 1/1.28" will be enough to match Exmor RS 1".
No need to make phones thicker.
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dcdev, 21 Feb 2024I took photos with mountains those far away, with cats, bir... moreAnd I was not saying that nobody is using x10 zoom. I was saying that for most people very good x3 will be much, much more useful than x10. I have S23U. I just checked my LR. I have 17 photos taken with x10. Out of almost 12k from S23 Ultra. My friend bought an iPhone 15 Pro Max and when zooming he uses x2-x3 max zoom. So, not base pro, not max would be better for him, as right now he is digitally cropping. And I assume that this is the case for most of the people.
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gsmguru, 21 Feb 2024S24u takes better zoom photos comapared to s23uHow? Can you imagine which part of sensor S24U uses?
It should be about 1/2 from 1/2.5" at 230mm, about 1/5" against 1/3.5".
Or I'm wrong?
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SirArtur, 21 Feb 2024Honestly, I don't know why people want 10x in the smar... moreI took photos with mountains those far away, with cats, birds, some details of buildings, like roofs of churches.
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Anonymous, 21 Feb 2024Funny part is many here still think leica makes the lenses.... moreLeica makes money. Their cameras are overpriced.
Why not good brands, like Canon, Nikon, Panasonic or Fujifilm?
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- 21 Feb 2024
It's all in the software, not the hardware. Look at the Pixel 6a. It's got the ancient IMX363, yet it produces superior photos to recent midrangers with superior hardware.
I don't like the look of photos taken with my Redmi Note 13 Pro, so I installed Gcam. I now get photos that I'm very happy with. The hardware hasn't changed. It's all about photo processing, and OEMs don't need to set up "institutes" to improve photo processing.
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- 21 Feb 2024
The cameras of all phone companies have reached their physical limits due to thickness requirements, the only way is to increase the thickness of the smartphone to have more space for lenses and sensors.
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- 21 Feb 2024
Anonymous, 21 Feb 2024Not at 230mm. 100% agree.
I make with my S23 Ultra astonishing sharp Fotos with 10xZoom.
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- 21 Feb 2024
Imagine how much someone was paid to come up with that name