Intel's holdout against making ARM chips comes to an end
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- Flouf McDon
- Q$Q
- 02 Nov 2013
looks like innovation at intel just dropped - it will produce 64 bit arm chips from next year. at least it accepts that baytrail cannot yet compete with the mobile chip giants like qualcomm n arm.
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- Alfosan.
- Pnc
- 01 Nov 2013
dannn, 31 Oct 2013A lot of kids post about thinks that they do not understand... moreNah, Intel won't. Believe me, Intel won't kill the competition.
Qualcomm offer a good compromise between price and performance and is default in Windows Phone while Apple will use apple designs n' Power VR's gpus no matter what Intel come with. So, i think that they could only threat Samsung and Nvidia. If as much.
I think that unless they do a major review in ARM's default designs, (more or less what Qualcomm and Apple are doing, since both Samsung and Nvidia uses ARM's default) that made a signifcant boost to the performance w/o major heat production and power drain they can have a chance.
Not to mention GPU performance, where Intel chips just don't perform as good as the others.
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- Alfosan
- Pnc
- 01 Nov 2013
AdamBoy64, 01 Nov 2013Nah, you're making fair points.
The reason other companies... moreIndeed. Any idea from Apple is considered magical and revolutionary no matter how copied or moronic they are.
Fingerprint, well, correct me if the Moto Atrix wasn't the first to have this feature and 64bit... ARM was working on the design for quite a long time and Apple was just the first to bring it to the market. So? 64 Bit sound impressive but it means more to memory management than it means to performance per se.
But... It's Apple, so it is automatically revolutionary to the average iPhone user. Puppets.
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- AdamBoy64
- Fv4
- 01 Nov 2013
AdamBoy64, 01 Nov 2013Nah, you're making fair points. The reason other companies... moreApple, sorry, not pple.
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- AdamBoy64
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- 01 Nov 2013
Lorenzo, 31 Oct 2013Apple are the one who introduced 64bit so we must all salut... moreNah, you're making fair points.
The reason other companies copy Apple like that is not necessarily because they have good ideas, but because they sell. Doesn't matter if they're useless.
For example, pple puts out fingerprint technology - doesn't matter if it's good or bad, people will be talking about it, generating hype and interest. Other companies want to cash in on that hype.
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- AnonD-4305
- Xre
- 01 Nov 2013
ARM makes the best mobile SoCs and intel knows this. Good on them.
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- Lorenzo
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- 31 Oct 2013
Apple are the one who introduced 64bit so we must all salute the mighty iPhone for immaculate innovation. Look, iphone came up with fingerprint and the next thing HTC one Max has it. Guess what, there were rumors that S5 will be using fingerprint. Hate it or Love it that's my brand Iphone. I know haters will bash iphone after my post.. ha ha ha ha
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- Anonym
- g51
- 31 Oct 2013
AnonD-77380, 31 Oct 2013If x86 and windows are dead, then how could we create games... moreThe ratio of "Content Creators" and "Developers" vs "Consumers" is completely disproportionate to the consumers side. That is what you may be missing.
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- Ashoaib
- Hx7
- 31 Oct 2013
Cry kid Apple cant make their own chip and dependent on samsung... cry baby always want more milk but cry even more when someone else taste the milk...
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- pXE
- 31 Oct 2013
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2013Really?
So how do you explain the year over year decli... moreAnd how do you explain this?
http://tinyurl.com/kdl45y4
And im not even mentioning the 65 league of legends active accounts and 45 million world of tanks registered users.
laptops and notebooks are in trouble yes, but not PCs in general.
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- AnonD-77380
- thi
- 31 Oct 2013
Karate Obachi, 31 Oct 2013RIP x86 1978-2013
RIP Microsoft 1975-2013
Mobile kills ... moreIf x86 and windows are dead, then how could we create games, edit movies, mix audio, use photoshop and other things that actually need much processing power in the future?
Happy halloween. XD
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- Anonymous
- mB7
- 31 Oct 2013
Karate Obachi, 31 Oct 2013RIP x86 1978-2013
RIP Microsoft 1975-2013
Mobile kills ... moreNonsense... Mobile will stay mobile. And I didnt read, that Intel aint still trying to make their x86 superior, it seems like, it is just not now, but Intel cannot take a too big market loss, so they will compete this way, to maintain their position and make better x86 cpus for the mobile sector.
It is Intels fault to begin with. When Apple first started this whole mobile pocket pc with the iPhone, they asked Intel, to create a good x86 cpu for mobiles, but intel laughed at that and said, they wont do it. Steve became angry with Intel, chose somebody else, ARM in that matter and now Intel gets its paycheck...
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- Karate Obachi
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- 31 Oct 2013
RIP x86 1978-2013
RIP Microsoft 1975-2013
Mobile kills off PC.
Happy Halloween :-)
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- AnonD-77380
- thi
- 31 Oct 2013
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2013I recall about 2 months ago some joker on here commenting a... morehttp://hothardware.com/Reviews/Betting-On-Bay-Trail-Intels-Atom-Overhaul-Tested/?page=3
The only chip that's faster is nvidia's...
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- AnonD-3678
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- 31 Oct 2013
Intel concludes that technical effort to produce ARM processor is less than marketing effort to push handset manufacturers to use Atom.
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- dannn
- p35
- 31 Oct 2013
A lot of kids post about thinks that they do not understand. ARM is just a set of CPU instructions; like x86. Internal CPU architecture will be Intel own design.
The problem is not which is better? (the debate between CISC and RISC architecture is 40 years old) The problem is compatibility with existing OS. By choosing ARM architecture Intel has compatibility with 99% of mobile operating systems.
64 bit, quad core, on 14nm will be waaay ahead everybody else.
My fear is that Intel will kill competition in few years.
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- IROCU
- nx2
- 31 Oct 2013
Great news for the British company.
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- Primark
- vpc
- 31 Oct 2013
At least Intel knows when its beaten, who knows maybe they will try something else other than pushing their x86 on us.
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- AnonD-4305
- Xre
- 31 Oct 2013
ARM makes the best mobile SoCs and intel knows this. Good on them.
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- Anonymous
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- 31 Oct 2013
AnonD-50083, 30 Oct 2013It fits because everyone thought Intel was going to save th... moreThese are FPGAs of Altera. They are massive chips and the A53s are embedded within them. Many of these type chips sell for over $2000 each. This agreement has NOTHING to do with phone or tablet SoCs.