Asus Zenfone 10
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Anonymous, 07 Jul 2023There's a very, very big difference between the fracti... moreSony is able to add SD card support to their Xperia 5 and 10 series which are by volume about the same size than ZenFone 9 and 10, and they have 3.5mm. The Xperia 5iv and 10iv had 5,000mah battery while even their older Mk iii model has 4,500mah, ZenFone 10 only has 4,300. They also have 3 lenses.
Thus, what you are saying is mostly nonsense, the so called extra chip logic required on the main board to support expandable storage, takes up next to no space. Much less than making the phone 0.3mm thicker, as for USB3.1, it's the same, with newer processes, these extra circuitry also takes up next to no space with the correct design. I asked my business partners whom works in QC and Mtk about this, and they agreed, USB3.1 and SD card support on modern processes takes up next to 0 space on a MB, the only extra space we need is for the mSD card itself.
If the MB designer can't find space for mSD and 3.5mm when they have one less camera and 200mah smaller battery, they need to get better MB designers.

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    • Anonymous
    • sX6
    • 07 Jul 2023

    Chaos X 1982, 02 Jul 2023If they remove the wireless charging, they would have space... moreThere's a very, very big difference between the fractions of a millimeter on the back of the phone for a wireless charging coil and the extra chip logic required on the main board to support expandable storage. It's nowhere near as simple as 'you remove one, you have space for the other'. They put in wireless charging because it takes up very little space as all the charging hardware is mostly already on the main board anyway (it's very hard to imagine it would be any different from standard charging), supporting MicroSD would require a lot more (you'd have to route a USB or maybe PCI Express interface to where you want it, and that's not easy when every bit of motherboard space counts) and that's assuming it's even possible to make a dual SIM slot in the same form factor.

    This is also the same reason it's USB 2.0 by the way- there's extra circuitry required for the higher data speed, and this problem gets exponentially worse if you want video out. Circuit traces take up space, and space isn't free, doubly so in a space constrained phone like this.

    Only way they'd maybe have enough room for MicroSD is if they removed the headphone port and shuffled some things around (which to be clear, I am not advocating for, the headphone jack is the only reason I'm even half considering this) and even then I'd hardly call it a guarantee.

    These issues (as well as the 'small' battery by flagship standards) could be very easily fixed by increasing the size, but that would likely defeat the point of the phone's existence (though I personally think a 6.4 inch Plus model with these same usability features would definitely sell).

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      • djinsm
      • X$K
      • 07 Jul 2023

      Typical example of how strategies are going wrong for ASUS. The SoC upgrade war is not necessary anymore. Nobody cares if it is Gen 1 or 2, from SD 845 era the SoCs were fair enough to run anything throw at it for daily tasks. Camera, Connectivity and User Experience were the key and Ausus forgot some of it by upgrading the SOC and downgrading the camera.

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        • kenkenlam
        • twV
        • 07 Jul 2023

        USB 2.0???
        WTF...it's ancient.
        who need wireless charging?
        why don't ASUS just save the space and expend 4300mAh to 5000mAh?

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          • z9user
          • Ki7
          • 07 Jul 2023

          the upgrade sum from zenfone 9:
          - a little bit higher chip system
          - more megapixel on front camera
          - wireless charging
          - got higher android system update (android 14)
          maybe i will stick with zenfone 9 for 3 years more...

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            • tofukinggood
            • iuZ
            • 06 Jul 2023

            Happened to be visiting Taiwan at this time and stopped by ASUS to check out the phone. Everything looks good until I saw the "made in china" label on the back of the phone and that was a deal breaker for me.

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              • ghenceaRO
              • Mvw
              • 06 Jul 2023

              awful pictures much better Z9 than this one. noise on the sky or plain color photos and shadows on moving objects. they should improve the software ASAP. or cut the price.

                Not even joking, the cameras look a bit too huge for the phone...

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                  • Anonymous
                  • N%B
                  • 05 Jul 2023

                  I've stayed with my S10e for years, not wanting to upgrade to another Galaxy since they removed the headphone jack and since I haven't needed to upgrade until recently (battery life starting to go), and the Zenfone 10 looks like the one I'm going to finally jump on.

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                    • Stoon
                    • fwF
                    • 04 Jul 2023

                    ks, 04 Jul 2023the rear camera looks so thick and big. why dont remain sma... moreit has a gimbal system inside !

                      justasmile, 04 Jul 2023Collection of data is like a message, doesn't even dra... moreThe new Tensor processor will do AI analysis of your data on phone

                        PALAKI, 03 Jul 2023WTH...!!! even S23+ is cheaper than this crapt..!??Not on official website.
                        Original s23 price in EU was €959 and €1219 for s23+.
                        After 4-5 months this phone will be cheaper than now as well.

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                          • ks
                          • PIK
                          • 04 Jul 2023

                          the rear camera looks so thick and big. why dont remain small and fit like zenfone 7

                            Chaos X 1982, 03 Jul 2023Collection of data actually slows down the SOC, sending dat... moreCollection of data is like a message, doesn't even drain much anyways.

                              justasmile, 03 Jul 2023That takes up a lot of space and makes the phone heavier an... moreThat why Asus should consider either 2 model a year, or rotates between big and small models every year.

                                BanB, 03 Jul 2023I wonder why the Zenfone is considered the standard compact... moreWell, ZenFone have 3.5mm. And that's awesome.

                                  justasmile, 03 Jul 2023what can they even do with it other than giving you ads?Collection of data actually slows down the SOC, sending data to their HQ eats up our data bundle and also, the entire process eats into our battery life.

                                    justasmile, 03 Jul 2023spied on? lol. they can't do anything illegal other th... moreBecause I am paying money for their R&D making the stupid Spychip SOC, also, this means some processing power and battery life is being used for doing the A.I ads when I use a Pixel.

                                      justasmile, 03 Jul 2023you mentioned sony twice, also stock android is by google. ... more1: Humans do have Typos.
                                      2: Sony and HTC have SD card slots. If google uses Snapdragon or Dimensity and add an SD card slot I would get a pixel.

                                        Anonymous, 02 Jul 2023on apple both apple google and facebook and others spy on y... moreWell, most Apple fans claims Apple is the most secure and it protects all their privacy. I don't know, I use Asus.