Google Pixel 7
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- Anonymous
- x{6
- 07 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 07 Sep 2023Here's the score you should be referring to. sAMMY vs... moreWell the Pixel 7 really has better camera performance than the S23. Don't take DXOmark's word for it. Even if DXOmark's scoring shows the Pixel is way ahead the Samsung, you owe it to yourself to do a shootout with both phones side by side. That way, you will really get to compare both phones om the exact same scene like I do, and come up with the same conclusion.
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 07 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 07 Sep 2023Maybe you should quit arguing non sense and start reading s... moreInvalid argument. Read my post again and better yet, study photography because you have absolutely no idea what a high dynamic range low light scene is and what the purpose of exposure bracketing is.
You cannot comprehend why it is not possible for even a full frame interchangeable lens camera to capture a high dynamic range low light scene HANDHELD, without clipping highlights/shadows, while still retaining a large depth of field.
It can only be done with exposure bracketing, using a tripod, and then merging the bracketed images later in a photoediting software. The Pixel 7 can capture the same scene handheld in one tap. No tripod or desktop photoediting and merging frames needed. Get it?
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- Anonymous
- RqR
- 07 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023Of course you can't beat the output of a real intercha... moreOh so now you change the focus to portability rather than quality of photos?
That's called "whataboutism" lol
By the way the score you should be referring to is below, genius
sAMMY vs gOOGLE
Pixel 7 https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-7-camera-test/
S23 https://www.dxomark.com/samsung-galaxy-s23-camera-test/
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- Anonymous
- pku
- 07 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023You obviously don't own any interchangeable lens camer... moreHere's the score you should be referring to.
sAMMY vs gOOGLE
I'm not saying that google is necessarily better than Sammy (as I said, it's pointless to spend so much on smartphone photos) though since you like arguing based on your opinion rather than referring to "facts" I decided to share the links, genius.
Pixel 7 https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-7-camera-test/
S23 https://www.dxomark.com/samsung-galaxy-s23-camera-test/
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- Anonymous
- pku
- 07 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023But of course I can argue because you act like you own a re... moreMaybe you should quit arguing non sense and start reading some articles already.
Example:
https://www.t3.com/features/why-your-smartphone-camera-cant-beat-a-digital-camera
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- Anonymous
- 40@
- 07 Sep 2023
where are instructions for this phone
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 07 Sep 2023
almost anonymous, 06 Sep 2023Yes, I meant cheap by price.
I've got it; don't... moreOk I want you to be *really* honest. Do you *really* own and have a Pixel 7 and the photos look as bad and awful as you described here? Have you *really* viewed photos in a really CALIBRATED 28" or bigger 4K screen or monitor? And they still look generally bad and awful overall as you described here?
Then you likely have a defective Pixel 7 phone - assuming you *really* do own the phone and you *really* did view the Pixel 7 photos in a 28" or larger *calibrated* 4K display or monitor.
Return it while its under warranty because your description of its output being 'bad and awful' is absolutely FAR, FAR AWAY from what most Pixel owners see. Google wouldn't possibly sell *more* units of the latest Pixel 7 phones than the previous Pixel generations if they were really as bad as you say to the majority.
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- almost anonymous
- 3Hd
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023If you're talking about price, yes, it is 'cheap&... moreYes, I meant cheap by price.
I've got it; don't need to buy another one to make sure I am not happy with pictures taken.
When I noticed the problem, I thought I might need to adjust setting and was disappointed when I found out it is not possible, it's fully automated.
Later, I searched on Internet and found threads everywhere where people discussing the problem, and also people defending Google and explaining why pictures are the best.
Here for example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/u44icm/photos_darken_up_after_processing/
You can find many similar threads around.
Pictures taken on my Pixel 7 are bad.
Sound on phone is good and crisp (better than S21), reception is good (better than on my S21 or every Samsung I had in past few years. I’ve got areas at work where I had to use WiFi calling on Samsung, and Pixel 7 I have 2 or 3 bars of 4G signal), I experienced only few lags in 5 months.
What is the issue that I have with Pixel 7?
Pictures are bad. I mentioned it, I explained how they look to me, and I am accused being Sami boy, person not having Pixel 7, etc.
It sounds similar to Apple fans when telling to others if they’re blaming some Apple features, that they can’t afford Ferrari (Apple). I can’t afford Ferrari. I can afford Iphone. I might buy it in the future, because to me it looks that Google is following Apple path, not allowing owners to choose.
I can’t change settings on my phone, Google set it.
And once again, I have the phone. I don't have one single reason wasting time writing about the phone that I don't have.
Pictures on my Pixel 7 are bad. Have I mentioned it?
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023You can argue as you wish, but the fact is you can't b... moreOf course you can't beat the output of a real interchangeable camera with a mobile phone but it requires a work flow that involves a tripod, exposure bracketing and a desktop PC. Do you really want to do that for everyday social photography. That's why out of camera jpegs from mobile phones matter! Many mobile phones offer a RAW mode but its only for special cases when you don't have your interchangeable lens camera with you and want the best you can get with the phone by capturing raw and post-processing on your desktop PC later. No mobile phone owner does that often because its simply time consuming and deprives one the enjoyment of a social occasion by just shooting and posting.
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023Pictures taken by Pixel 7 are nothing but big lie, they... moreJust try owning a Pixel first before you make wrong conclusions. Do a lowlight shootout among a Pixel 7, an iPhone 14 Pro Max and a Samsung S23 ultra, side by side, for several low light scenes, in your home and other scenes familiar to you. Just for once, do it, like I did, and you'll come to the same conclusion as me. The Pixel wins almost every single time if not all the time for the main camera. It only gets defeated when zooming in because it doesn't have a telephoto camera.
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023Thank you.
Yes, they look better on my monitor or TV, I ad... moreWell to each his own. Samsung's out of camera jpegs are really not better than Pixel's jpegs.
They look overly sharpened and oversaturated, there's plenty of color clipping. Leaves and greenery become clipped. The shadows also get lifted too much losing shadow gradation and depth and in low light situations, the shadow noise is terrible compared to a Pixel. In addition, there's too much luma noise reduction causing dull, hazy looking surfaces. It looks as if walls and flat surfaces have been waxed. If you own both a Pixel and a Samsung, you can't unsee the waxy images in a Samsung especially in low light. It is possibly this smoothening that's making faces more beautiful in Samsung cameras than in real life. With the Pixel, what you see is what you get. Photos are more often than not, closer to real life than in a Samsung.
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023You can argue as you wish, but the fact is you can't b... moreBut of course I can argue because you act like you own a real interchangeable lens camera but have zero idea what its limitations are--- why in most social occasions, even professional photographers would use their mobile phone camera especially one having excellent computational photography like the Pixel rather than lug around their bulky interchangeable lens camera!
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023“Who told you I don't have a REAL CAMERA and multiple ... moreYou obviously don't own any interchangeable lens camera and a bag of lenses or have any experience in photoediting on a PC. Do you know what RAW files are and how much time it yakes to batch process them even with a powerful PC? I guess not. So end of argument.
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- Anonymous
- RqR
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023Wow, a mouthful from a clearly inexperienced person. Who to... more“Who told you I don't have a REAL CAMERA and multiple lenses and I don't have extensive knowledge in photography?”
You just acted like one.
All the cell phone cameras are about the same – All has pros and cons, which is subjective and up to each person’s preference (ex. You choose Sammy bloatware phone while many people think that their photos are over saturated and unnatural. If you prefer fakery photos, why do you not pic any phone and edit photos all you like in photoshop?)
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- Anonymous
- 8sc
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023Wow, a mouthful from a clearly inexperienced person. Who to... moreYou can argue as you wish, but the fact is you can't beat the big lens from the real camera.
Stop whining round non sense, and make up your mind lol
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- Anonymous
- x{6
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023Pixel 7 is a cheap phone. If you're talking about price, yes, it is 'cheap' when compared to Samsung flagship phones and iPhones. But if you mean 'inferior quality' cheap, then you're obviously wrong. Just buy one and see for yourself.
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- Anonymous
- x{6
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023Pictures taken by Pixel 7 are nothing but big lie, they... moreWrong. You obviously don't own a Pixel to easily dismiss its low light and everyday photographic capabilities. It's got the best camera on a phone bar none. Not even the latest iPhones and Samsung flagships can beat it, at least in terms of photo quality and nailing the correct color, dynamic range and exposure most of the time.
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- Anonymous
- 3Hd
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023Who cares, you can just edit the pics, right? Nobody actua... morePixel 7 is a cheap phone.
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- Anonymous
- 3Hd
- 06 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 02 Sep 2023Actually, even in daytime, the Pixel 7 has better photo qua... moreThank you.
Yes, they look better on my monitor or TV, I adjusted settings on both of them for more natural look, but I still see difference when comparing with Samsung S21 or even older Samsung phones that I used in past.
I think problem is in Google software and its failure using 4 pixels to make 1.
Perfect kids’ faces have unnatural (cartoony) shadows, and on pictures taken under certain circumstances (light) sometimes they have black eyes.
I usually add brightness and warmth to get them better, buy it's annoying if I have to spend hours editing pictures which Google software ruined, and what is funniest thing I use the same app to do corrections.
Why pictures do not look the same as they look on screen before they’re taken? Why Google darken them?
To clarify my opinion about Samsung phones:
Samsung One UI has many features that Google won’t implement, and if you want them you must install 3rd part apps and give them permissions to access sensitive data. I’m not happy doing that, I’m rather to have it included in pure Android. Example: double touch to wake up and turn off the screen. Another example: changing resolution for non-important pictures to save memory. You need app for that, while in Samsung option comes with Gallery (Samsung’s Photo app).
Bad about Samsung:
Samsung Bixby is hated by most Samsung users, should be optional. Even not being bad in my opinion, there’s no need for it. It uses hundreds of Megabytes.
In total Samsung takes Gigabytes of memory installing own apps that phone users do not like, and they’re affecting battery life big time. The battery gets noticeable worse after just few months of phone use.
Samsung ignores users’ opinion, not replying on questions and requests on their forum.
Samsung is overpriced too. It’s not bad option to buy last year’s phone; difference in characteristics is small, and they cost lot less.
At the end, I forgot to mention one more thing about Pixel 7. It is slowest reacting camera that I ever saw in action. To avoid blurry pictures because of that slowness I started using motion. If I use flash, it takes couple of seconds before picture is taken. Flash is useless. Luckily pictures taken under minimal light (even Moonlight) are beautiful.
I hope Google will correct some flows with future updates.
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- Anonymous
- 3Hd
- 05 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023Simple solution, go get a real camera and perhaps, take a c... morePictures taken by Pixel 7 are nothing but big lie, they're nothing special. Every brand on market has a phone at the same price range that can beat Pixel 7 in camera.
Camera is advertised as 50 megapixel camera, and it is not. We got 12.5 megapixels, pictures are too dark and colours are not natural (too much blue and purple). More brightness and warmth is needed, and if every picture has to be edited, what is point of overhyped software that is supposed to do that?