Google Pixel 8 Pro
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- 7Xd
- 09 Jul 2024
Good specs but not having a regular dual sim is a big miss. Most phones now have esim so that's not a big deal.
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- Anonymous
- pdw
- 08 Jul 2024
leart78, 02 Jul 2024do you know the history of samsung in last 1,5 decade? for... moreI'm still waiting for your reply. One week< and counting
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- 3Dt
- 05 Jul 2024
Negatives are the phone feels unfinished, I'm typing from my pixel 2 as prefer it - os is more stable, on p8 pro keyboard pops up randomly all the time, apps close themselves and it gets very hot, plus screen stutters on scrolling and battery not as strong as I'd hoped for, maybe 1 day usage, and I'm not a heavy user, plus I've no idea why they created sub menus for the scroll down menu buttons like internet, Bluetooth etc, makes something that should be quick and intuitive slow and laborious, very strange decision.
Positive are camera is very good, but so was pixel 2, yet zoom lens and ultra wide probably best I've seen, speakers sound great too and everything looks wonderful on the screen, very clear and crisp, just a shame it feels a bit wonky in use, a friend has s24 ultra and that seems a much more refined, complete offering, a shame as I waited a long time to upgrade and it feels a bit of a flop.
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- Anonymous
- m2A
- 05 Jul 2024
It’s not a case of “wanting to use subpar chips”. Google didn’t have any other options.
Google are basically replicating Apple’s playbook. But they seem to be speed-running it too!
Producing a chip involves two very different aspects which both require very experienced teams: design and manufacturing. Samsung is the only leading player who does both, so they can help companies with design AND manufacturing on leading edge nodes and processes. TSMC only offers manufacturing, so a company would need to already have an expert in-house design team who can handle leading edge node designs BEFORE they can deal with TSMC.
Both Google and Apple used Samsung’s expertise to help build their internal design teams while also buying chips from them over a span of many years.
Apple started with buying off the shelf Samsung chips, then when they built up their own internal chip design teams they jumped ship to TSMC. Almost every Apple ARM chip from the iPod to the A4 was a Samsung design. Then, when Apple had built up their internal design team over many years, they entirely designed the A4-A9 chips and got Samsung to manufacture them. And they went with TSMC after that.
Google are following a very similar path. Apple did it over more than a decade but Google are doing it within about 5 years or so: Tensor G1 was almost entirely a Samsung off the shelf design with a dash of Google design input. G2 and G3 have had more and more design inputs from Google. And now that they’ve built up their internal design team, they’ll go to TSMC soon to avail of their performance/efficiency leadership for their future chips.
So it’s not a case of “wanting” to use Samsung, they had no other viable choice. With Samsung they got access to leading edge design and manufacturing knowledge with which they could build up their internal teams.
As for Samsung, what do they get out of it if everyone seems to use them and then ditch them for TSMC? Massive amounts of cash to reinvest into their future nodes! They’ll be hoping to compete with TSMC eventually with their future nodes and then Google and Apple will be back to get their chips manufactured by Samsung. Remember, Samsung had the best ARM production facilities for almost 20 years before TSMC upped their game over the past few years. When Apple used them they were the best in the business. TSMC used to have the same poor reputation as Samsung does nowadays, so it’s not like it would be impossible for Samsung to compete if they can repeat their old performance.
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- Je@
- 04 Jul 2024
Lolipop, 03 Jul 2024"Going to Samsung to get their own chip, I did not und... moreMoney, sure. But to the point of sacrificing battery life and performance on 4 generations of devices ? Does more wrong than good if you ask me.
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- pdw
- 03 Jul 2024
Wesker, 02 Jul 2024Yeah I totally get that. At least if it had decently fast c... more"Going to Samsung to get their own chip, I did not understood that move from Google at the time, I still don't, and I probably never will."
Lol. Is it so hard to realize it's about the money?
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- pdw
- 03 Jul 2024
leart78, 02 Jul 2024do you know the history of samsung in last 1,5 decade? for... moreTell us. I don't know and probably no one else there. I love stories
- Wesker
- 3g5
- 02 Jul 2024
Sohrab, 29 May 2024I can relate to your post, especially regarding the battery... moreYeah I totally get that. At least if it had decently fast charging it could kinda make up for this abomination of a battery life, but it doesn't.
Going to Samsung to get their own chip, I did not understood that move from Google at the time, I still don't, and I probably never will.
It was a well known fact then, and still is now, that anything to come out of Samsung foundries offers sub-par performance and terrible battery life.
You want to equip your own devices with your own custom chips, you'll go to anyone but not to Samsung, ever.
But Google did. Pixel 6, 7, 8 and surely 9 all offer gens behind performance and simply atrocious battery life.
I'm gonna sell my 8 pro before the 9 early announcement, while it still worth something.
Offering 7 years of support on a device that is such a pain on a daily basis is comical.
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- leart78
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- 02 Jul 2024
Anonymous, 28 May 2024And what did they steal exactly?do you know the history of samsung in last 1,5 decade?
for what they did who can truly trust a company like that
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- leart78
- 0TF
- 02 Jul 2024
if one day i will leave apple it would be only for a google android device
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- Anonymous
- pdw
- 01 Jul 2024
wls43, 27 Jun 2024As a past owner of Pixel 3, Pixel 3 Plus, Pixel 6 and Pixel... more"as supplied three replacement 8 Pro phones by carrier,"
I would considerate that problem is the user too. How in the world you destroy THREE PHONES in less that a year?? It's unbelievable.
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- wls43
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- 27 Jun 2024
As a past owner of Pixel 3, Pixel 3 Plus, Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro, I am most disappointed in the call quality of both the Pixel 8 and 8 Pro. Received both phones at end of November, 2023 and am now using Samsung Galaxy 24 and Galaxy 24+, both have great call quality. Was supplied three replacement 8 Pro phones by carrier, all had same sound quality problems. While Google has currently accepted the Pixel 8 for repair, it has found multiple circular reason not to accept the Pixel 8 Pro for repair or replacement over, the last weeks.
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- Anonymous
- nC4
- 21 Jun 2024
Pix, 18 Jun 2024Clockspeed X3- 2.91, A710- 2.3, A510- 1.7ghz .. It has lo... moreThats GSM at its best. They tend to add specs early way before phones release, and then don't correct them after release. Clock speeds are incorrect, which are from early leaks of tested pre-release G3 variant, also GPU is listed as Immortalis variant, while it is regular Mali-G715 with only 7 cores.
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- pdw
- 21 Jun 2024
Pix, 18 Jun 2024Clockspeed X3- 2.91, A710- 2.3, A510- 1.7ghz .. It has lo... moreHow do you know they are using stock cpu speed instead of boosted like samsung does on their snapdragon CPUs?
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- 18 Jun 2024
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2024What kind of configuration do you think they have? Clockspeed X3- 2.91, A710- 2.3, A510- 1.7ghz .. It has lower clockspeed ... and Its shown wrong here to fool us!
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- pdw
- 17 Jun 2024
Pix, 14 Jun 2024Why is the cpu clockspeed sonfiguration is shown wrong? It ... moreWhat kind of configuration do you think they have?
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- XN{
- 16 Jun 2024
Buying a 1000$ phn that can't even game properly. worst chipset in a flagship ever
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- Anonymous
- 0Z8
- 15 Jun 2024
Mandy, 05 Jun 2024 All hail to TSMC.. The king of semiconductors manufac... moreYou don't know that. You're not a fortune teller.
By then we all be wearing glasses for smartphone.
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- 15 Jun 2024
Carlos2019, 09 Jun 2024Can anyone tell me Please is Pixel 8 Pro wifi compatible wi... moreYes, it's, even 7.
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6e/7,
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- 866
- 14 Jun 2024
Why is the cpu clockspeed sonfiguration is shown wrong? It is actually lower than this! Correct it. Do not fool consumers.