HMD Skyline
- ?
- Anonymous
- dSV
- 21 Apr 2025
rohitmishra, 21 Apr 2025It's not that Android is unsafe. The thing is that the... moreYour absolutely right and you've convinced me , I retract my previous statement .
Other people were saying android is always patched by Google themselves and even a phone 10 years old is relatively safe and that most attacks are done though the cloud , Google services or other apps that the system patches have no relevance to.
I'm personally scared of updating to latest androids OS as they always seem to have issues and more and more apps are becoming unavailable as there no longer compatible (couldn't Android offer backwards compatibility and run them in a sandbox environment ).
I hated it when material you and scoped storage came out , and
recently Google are even removing the 3g/4g/5g network selection on some phones .
But as you say it's also about respect for the people who have used their hard earned money to buy these phones and having an transparent comparable update policy should be included and upheld .
- r
- rohitmishra
- CbG
- 21 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2025Everyone seems to want a security patch every month ,but is... moreIt's not that Android is unsafe. The thing is that there are bad actors out there who keep inventing ways to cause problems. As soon as new vulnerabilities are discovered, or new ways of being attacked are found, security patches are issued.
And it's not about wanting the latest update, it's about accountability. If you promise something, ask money for it, but don't deliver it satisfactorily, people are going to question you because they're your customers and have paid you a premium for your product.
- ?
- Anonymous
- dSV
- 20 Apr 2025
Carol-, 13 Apr 2025Well, the skyline is now on android 15 with March security ... moreEveryone seems to want a security patch every month ,but isn't it better to believe your phone has no security issues to fix .
How unsafe is Android in the first place that it need updating every two seconds .
- C
- Carol-
- mJ}
- 13 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 04 Apr 2025I live in the German city Hamburg (in my opinion the best c... moreWell, the skyline is now on android 15 with March security patch and i see no big difference to android 14, actually there are some polishing stuffs here and there and that's about it. Sometimes people just need to pause on getting anxious about software updates, and let others just do their job.
- ?
- Anonymous
- dZY
- 11 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 08 Apr 2025HMD does not take its job seriously. I am European and Germ... moreI remember my old and budget Nokia got security patches every single month for 3 years and that was outstanding for a budget phone back then. But now HMD must step up, better software policy is needed.
- S
- SkylineUserDE
- MQf
- 08 Apr 2025
Xenotyro, 05 Apr 2025For users not receiving updates: I had a similar issue with... moreHMD does not take its job seriously. I am European and German (yes, both at the same time) and used to things being over-regulated to the limit by the EU. Regulation sometimes goes beyond the target.
HMD used to update its products monthly. Now they want to do it quarterly. And they are failing in individual EU countries.
HMD is not serious. They only release security updates because other manufacturers do it too. HMD knows they can't pass a product review without a proper update plan. And they tell their plan to the press and YouTube “journalists”.
If you ask HMD support “I'm in country X with provider Y”, HMD can't (!) answer if you should get a software that is not older than 3 months.
Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
- X
- Xenotyro
- 3aW
- 05 Apr 2025
For users not receiving updates: I had a similar issue with the Nokia XR21 Limited Edition here in the UK, where I was stuck on Android 13 and the May 2024 patch.
I finally received Android 14 and the Jan 2025 security patch 8-9 months later. What would have helped is if there was some transparency about the reason for the delay, was it carrier or regulatory for example?
Play System Updates should still be available for download so I wouldn't worry too much about security implications unless you are actively engaging in questionable sites and apps.
- r
- rohitmishra
- CbG
- 04 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 04 Apr 2025I live in the German city Hamburg (in my opinion the best c... moreThat's great! At least you got your money back!
- r
- rohitmishra
- CbG
- 04 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 04 Apr 2025... Hello Moto :DThis does give Motorola vibes. I had the Moto G32 for 1.5 years and had to wait for ages to get Android 13 on it, which was the only update it was supposed to receive. This is baad for HMD.
- S
- SkylineUserDE
- MQf
- 04 Apr 2025
rohitmishra, 04 Apr 2025I was in your position until the second week of February, w... more... Hello Moto :D
- S
- SkylineUserDE
- MQf
- 04 Apr 2025
rohitmishra, 04 Apr 2025I was in your position until the second week of February, w... moreI live in the German city Hamburg (in my opinion the best city in Germany). I bought my Skyline at otto.de (the German Amazon, also based in Hamburg).
I wrote them that I don't get software updates for my HMD Skyline. They give me a 100% refund after 7 Month :D
- r
- rohitmishra
- CbG
- 04 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 03 Apr 2025Nope, no updates at all. I saw screenshots from others user... moreI was in your position until the second week of February, when they brought Android 15 and December patch.
I don't know about the operator thing there, could be an issue related to that. But it cannot be low priority because of low sales because even in India they do not have good sales for Skyline. Only a handful of buyers on Amazon at least. I feel like it's carelessness. Remember what they did with, I think it was, G21? Didn't those phones get their due Android update 1 year later? An already pathetic update promise now being implemented in a much worse manner is not a good look for them.
I remember my 6.1 Plus used to get OS updates soon after Google would release them. HMD went downhill after that good initial run.
- H
- HSKL
- Twn
- 03 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 03 Apr 2025Nope, no updates at all. I saw screenshots from others user... moreWell I was in the same boat as you right until yesterday. I was so extremely upset that I finally did the update via VPN, which I initially didn't want to do but it's April now and the waiting time was way too long.
Just in case that you aren't aware of the possibility, just Google for "nokiamob skyline android 15 how to" for a detailed guide.
- S
- SkylineUserDE
- MQf
- 03 Apr 2025
rohitmishra, 03 Apr 2025That's sad. Are you at least getting security updates?Nope, no updates at all. I saw screenshots from others users in Germany who are trapped at Android 14 with old patch level also. The HMD websites list all firmware Releases with dates:
Software Information / Comments / Date of First Availability / Android Security Bulletin
00WW_2_270_SP01 / SP Only (Android 15) / March 31, 2025 / Mar 2025
00WW_2_270 / MR Upgrade and SP (Android 15) / February 10, 2025 / Dec 2024
00WW_1_570 / MR Update and SP (Android 14) / December 02, 2024 / Nov 2024
I am still at 00WW_1_570 (with patch from Nov 2024, like a cheap No-Name-Phone), there will be no security patches for Skyline with Android 14 any more. This is interesting, because Europe has some strict regulations that forces manufacturer to keep their devices secure.
Maybe HMD has technical problems with operator approval here in Germany (than we may have to wait 3 more month for the next MR Update). And/or no priority because sales in Germany are too low.
But it is interesting that the HMD support seems not to know what IMEI/Region/Operator will receive the firmware updates or not.
- L
- LAW321
- mTW
- 03 Apr 2025
No HDR playback support and only Wide vine L3 is very disappointing.
- r
- rohitmishra
- CbG
- 03 Apr 2025
SkylineUserDE, 02 Apr 2025I am still on Android 14 here in Germany. HMD supports has ... moreThat's sad. Are you at least getting security updates?
- S
- SkylineUserDE
- MQf
- 02 Apr 2025
rohitmishra, 02 Apr 2025Just got the March 1st, 2025 security update today (April 2... moreI am still on Android 14 here in Germany. HMD supports has generic answers only and tells me to wait a few more days.
Unfortunately I can not even sell my Skyline on ebay, because the next owner has to deal with outdated software also...
- r
- rohitmishra
- CbG
- 02 Apr 2025
Just got the March 1st, 2025 security update today (April 2nd) here in India. Until now, my phone was on December 1st, 2024 patch, so it looks like they're following a quarterly update cycle. The December patch actually came in mid February along with the Android 15 update. I'm disappointed that they aren't offering monthly security updates at least in the first year since launch.
- note 10 5g
- c}Y
- 29 Mar 2025
i probably wouldve got this phone instead of my pixel 8 if the screen was smaller, my one requirement for a phone is the screen is below 6.4 inches
- atichko
- M{V
- 26 Mar 2025
rohitmishra, 25 Mar 2025You're right. Their initial phones were good - the num... moreFunny, I had no issues with the USB port on the 1-9 series. That fun started with my second X phone. And it didn't even started while I had it but shortly after I sold it on. The new owner called me stating that it broke off at the inside. Although it might also have been (I suspect) that the user tried to push a Micro USB into the USB-C port...
Same here, I really hope that HMD would become a good, reliable brand. Again having a European brand would not harm (even if all phones are made in China, India...and some in Germany). That would limit a bit the dependencies from China, Korea and the US.
It's kind of sad as in the beginning of the cellphone era we had several European brands. They are all gone.