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Anonymous, 20 Apr 2025Everyone seems to want a security patch every month ,but is... moreYour observation is mostly right, security patch" is a bit of exageration, this is something that could be interpreted as very bad, that all android phones have serious security issues ar the core that are discovered montly and are being patched. From my experience this is not the case, most of the security patches are not actually security patches but more like updating phones DB to recognize new threats, a thing that is actually important for all people with all sorts of knowlege, but very important for the one with lack of knowledge in the filed.

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    Minu, 15 Mar 2025Given that it's an AMOLED phone, it isn't PWM-fre... moreI asked Hmd about the Pwm and got an interesting response (as follows)
    " While we do not officially market the Skyline as utilizing full DC dimming, the display control system used does employ a more sophisticated dimming method than standard PWM. This approach minimizes the high-frequency on/off switching typically associated with PWM, which can often be a source of discomfort for individuals with sensitivity to flicker. Our goal is to provide a smoother, more eye- comfortable visual experience- especially at lower brightness levels where PWM is usually most noticeable. Of course, sensitivity to flicker and screen modulation varies significantly from person to person.“

    I tested the phone myself (brand new on android 14) using another phones camera and it does indeed have some kind of dc dimming but only above a certain percent brightness (around 40%), below that it changes from 1 or 2 thin purple lines (that change speed when selecting different refresh rates) to around 15 to 17 thicker black lines that don't change size hugely when lowering the brightness (unlike Samsung that engulf the screen).

    Anyway I hope this helps

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      rohitmishra, 24 Apr 2025It's a cat-and-mouse game. That's why you need th... moreAlthough a brand new OS has zero-day exploit to worry about , which undoubtedly is what these bad players will be trying to find as soon as it's released .

        ieatyoursamsung, 23 Apr 2025This is true. Most if not all modern OSes arent really u... moreIt's a cat-and-mouse game. That's why you need those security updates as soon as they are available, for one.

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          ieatyoursamsung, 23 Apr 2025The design is stupid, yeah. Especially for what it was supp... moreIt's obviously a marmite phone , because I love the look of it.
          It's like a cross between the Leica Leitz and obi worldphone.

          Personally it feels like Hmd are taking up the slack left behind by blackberry and htc, who always tried something new and different .

          Good for them I say , so many phone look the same nowadays.
          All we need now is a more unique android experience with hmd's personal touches rather than relying on stock.
          (nobody wants stock android they all just got confused with bloatware and thought stock meant it didn't have any).

            rohitmishra, 22 Apr 2025For the most part, you're safe as long as you're ... moreThis is true.

            Most if not all modern OSes arent really unsafe as long as you have good internet knowledge.
            There is built in security features on most for a reason. I still wouldnt rely on them because bad people evolve viruses to bypass security pretty rapidly, they do help though.

              Jaydeeen, 23 Apr 2025It's like some 5 year old tried origami to a phone and... moreThe design is stupid, yeah. Especially for what it was supposed to be (a newer Nokia Lumia, if anyone remembers those.)

              I wouldn't buy HMD anyway. Theres members in my family who use HMD phones, they're middle of the road from what i've seen.

              Maybe its just because i've been using Samsung since 2022.. (Came from LG)

                It's like some 5 year old tried origami to a phone and failed. Who thought "Guys, guys, what if we have a rectangular body and a normal smartphone screen?" Who thought of this?

                  Anonymous, 21 Apr 2025Your absolutely right and you've convinced me , I retr... moreFor the most part, you're safe as long as you're not visiting questionable websites or downloading apps from weird sources. Most web browsers provide enough security settings and you're generally safe with decently popular apps on the Play Store. So, depending on what you're doing, even a 10-year old Android isn't unsafe. They probably still get those Play Protect updates, or whatever they are called. If an app is compatible with the older Android, you're good to go. However, it's best to avoid using banking/financial apps on extremely old phones, just to be safe.

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                    rohitmishra, 21 Apr 2025It's not that Android is unsafe. The thing is that the... moreYour absolutely right and you've convinced me , I retract my previous statement .

                    Other people were saying android is always patched by Google themselves and even a phone 10 years old is relatively safe and that most attacks are done though the cloud , Google services or other apps that the system patches have no relevance to.

                    I'm personally scared of updating to latest androids OS as they always seem to have issues and more and more apps are becoming unavailable as there no longer compatible (couldn't Android offer backwards compatibility and run them in a sandbox environment ).

                    I hated it when material you and scoped storage came out , and
                    recently Google are even removing the 3g/4g/5g network selection on some phones .

                    But as you say it's also about respect for the people who have used their hard earned money to buy these phones and having an transparent comparable update policy should be included and upheld .

                      Anonymous, 20 Apr 2025Everyone seems to want a security patch every month ,but is... moreIt's not that Android is unsafe. The thing is that there are bad actors out there who keep inventing ways to cause problems. As soon as new vulnerabilities are discovered, or new ways of being attacked are found, security patches are issued.

                      And it's not about wanting the latest update, it's about accountability. If you promise something, ask money for it, but don't deliver it satisfactorily, people are going to question you because they're your customers and have paid you a premium for your product.

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                        Carol-, 13 Apr 2025Well, the skyline is now on android 15 with March security ... moreEveryone seems to want a security patch every month ,but isn't it better to believe your phone has no security issues to fix .

                        How unsafe is Android in the first place that it need updating every two seconds .

                          SkylineUserDE, 04 Apr 2025I live in the German city Hamburg (in my opinion the best c... moreWell, the skyline is now on android 15 with March security patch and i see no big difference to android 14, actually there are some polishing stuffs here and there and that's about it. Sometimes people just need to pause on getting anxious about software updates, and let others just do their job.

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                            SkylineUserDE, 08 Apr 2025HMD does not take its job seriously. I am European and Germ... moreI remember my old and budget Nokia got security patches every single month for 3 years and that was outstanding for a budget phone back then. But now HMD must step up, better software policy is needed.

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                              Xenotyro, 05 Apr 2025For users not receiving updates: I had a similar issue with... moreHMD does not take its job seriously. I am European and German (yes, both at the same time) and used to things being over-regulated to the limit by the EU. Regulation sometimes goes beyond the target.

                              HMD used to update its products monthly. Now they want to do it quarterly. And they are failing in individual EU countries.

                              HMD is not serious. They only release security updates because other manufacturers do it too. HMD knows they can't pass a product review without a proper update plan. And they tell their plan to the press and YouTube “journalists”.
                              If you ask HMD support “I'm in country X with provider Y”, HMD can't (!) answer if you should get a software that is not older than 3 months.

                              Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

                                For users not receiving updates: I had a similar issue with the Nokia XR21 Limited Edition here in the UK, where I was stuck on Android 13 and the May 2024 patch.

                                I finally received Android 14 and the Jan 2025 security patch 8-9 months later. What would have helped is if there was some transparency about the reason for the delay, was it carrier or regulatory for example?

                                Play System Updates should still be available for download so I wouldn't worry too much about security implications unless you are actively engaging in questionable sites and apps.

                                  SkylineUserDE, 04 Apr 2025I live in the German city Hamburg (in my opinion the best c... moreThat's great! At least you got your money back!

                                    SkylineUserDE, 04 Apr 2025... Hello Moto :DThis does give Motorola vibes. I had the Moto G32 for 1.5 years and had to wait for ages to get Android 13 on it, which was the only update it was supposed to receive. This is baad for HMD.

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                                      rohitmishra, 04 Apr 2025I was in your position until the second week of February, w... more... Hello Moto :D

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                                        rohitmishra, 04 Apr 2025I was in your position until the second week of February, w... moreI live in the German city Hamburg (in my opinion the best city in Germany). I bought my Skyline at otto.de (the German Amazon, also based in Hamburg).

                                        I wrote them that I don't get software updates for my HMD Skyline. They give me a 100% refund after 7 Month :D

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