HTC Desire Z
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- AnonD-252
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- 20 Feb 2011
desire z, 20 Feb 2011Xperia pro l;ooks so plastic cheap cheap you really like xp... morePlastic does not have to be a bad thing because it is more important that the phone is lightweight than that the backside looks good hidden in you hand or in your pocket. SE have unfortunatly choosen a very glossy plastic that is a "fingerprint-magnet", but that is hidden in your hand or your pocket so that is no big problem. A 180g metal-phone in the pocket will however be a problem and a constant reminder during the whole day.
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- AnonD-252
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- 20 Feb 2011
desire z, 20 Feb 2011Xperia pro l;ooks so plastic cheap cheap you really like xp... moreI do not like the design of SE XPERIA Pro, but it have better specs and better qwerty, I definetly do not like the SE user interface, but for me it is important that the phone is not to heavy because I bring it with me all day in my pants pocket, and the qwerty must be good and I must be able to trust that it will be lasting for more than 2 years and does not have a hinge that could possibly break or someting could accidently damage the cable to the screen.
SE Pro have HDMI and a good camera and the best qwerty and a faster cpu and better battery, while the only really better on Z is how it looks with more beautiful design and Sence inside and ofcourse a larger internal memory.
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- mSs
- 20 Feb 2011
Xperia pro l;ooks so plastic cheap cheap you really like xperia pro design above htc desire z ???
Then you are nuts
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- Anonymous
- mSs
- 20 Feb 2011
AnonD-252, 20 Feb 2011Sony Ericsson XPERIA Pro is only 140 g and have a better qwerty!you ever heard of xda developers??? and yes its 140gram xperia pro but its ugly and ugly
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- AnonD-252
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- 20 Feb 2011
Anonymous, 20 Feb 2011Good Qwerty makes you e phone heavySony Ericsson XPERIA Pro is only 140 g and have a better qwerty!
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- AnonD-252
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- 20 Feb 2011
desire z, 20 Feb 2011Great phone brings much haters, I use this phone now for... more"custom roms", how did you root your Z? HTC is updating the rom so newer version of Z will be very hard to root so any new buyers risk being to late for rooting...
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- Anonymous
- mSs
- 20 Feb 2011
AnonD-252, 20 Feb 2011Z is very heavy, but still only have a 1300mAh battery.Good Qwerty makes you e phone heavy
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- AnonD-252
- Sna
- 20 Feb 2011
desire z, 20 Feb 2011Great phone brings much haters, I use this phone now for... moreZ is very heavy, but still only have a 1300mAh battery.
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- mSs
- 20 Feb 2011
Great phone brings much haters,
I use this phone now for almost 3months and its the best i ever had why? fast nice custom roms sense is also nice storage 1,5 gg believe you needed that because apps also get on your phone and cant remove 2 microsd .
internet is very fast camera is midium only bad thing is battery
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- AnonD-123
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- 20 Feb 2011
AnonD-252, 20 Feb 2011I think many users pick it up holding only in the back-part... moreWhat makes you think that most people would pick up the phone while only gripping the keyboard part? Also, for your information the keyboard half is heavier than the screen half.
I personally always put the phone on a surface with the screen up. When picking up the phone you have to apply horizontal pressure as you squeeze the phone on the long sides. This grip will tend to keep both halves of the phone closed.
I tried picking up the phone with the screen down. The result is pretty much the same. You grip the sides of the phone and this grip prevents the Z hinge from opening.
It is highly unlikely that when picking up the phone for you to grip only the keyboard half or screen half of the phone (which ever is facing up). You end up gripping both halves. The only way you would grip only one half of the phone is if you intentionally try to do so. No one who picks up the phone would normally try to intentionally try to only grip the top half of the phone. If you do this to any phone, you would be more prone to drop it because your grip would be poor. You would not grip the Desire Z this way and you would not grip any other phone this way when picking it up either.
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- 20 Feb 2011
AnonD-123, 19 Feb 2011Many of the criticisms of the hinge do not reflect the real... moreI think many users pick it up holding only in the back-part when it is on the table... with the screen facing down, and then the heavy screen will fall down and the keyboard open, so the lose hinge will be a problem in the daily use of the phone.
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- AnonD-252
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- 20 Feb 2011
AnonD-123, 19 Feb 2011Many of the criticisms of the hinge do not reflect the real... moreMany complain about the fact that the z-hinge does not lock the keyboard in place at all when it is closed and it moves irritatingly even when the keyboard is not being used. Normally I do not hold my phone so that my fingers support the screen, but the z-hinge and the fact that the screen is so heavy force the user to do so. Z is 180 g, and that is very heavy for a phone, so to be able to accept this 180 g it have to be "perfect", and sadly the z-hinge is far from perfekt.
The datacable to the screen on N97 mini is more protected and it also have a similar hinge but it firmly locks in position when it open or it is closed, z is the only qwerty that does not firmly lock the screen in place in either open or closed.
I love HTC Sence, and do not like the user interface on SonyEricsson phones
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- AnonD-123
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- 19 Feb 2011
AnonD-252, 19 Feb 2011I do both, I look att positive and negative on both, but Z ... moreMany of the criticisms of the hinge do not reflect the reality of most everyday, regular use. The many videos show the person holding it in an way that you would not do so normally. As someone who has used the phone for three months, it is not a problem for me. I have never picked the phone up or used it in a way that results in the keyboard accidentally opening or closing. The way I normally use this phone and the way I see others use theirs most of the time, I do not expect the hinge to be an issue.
The position of lying on your back holding the phone above you is the only one that will cause any inconvenience. If you use the phone in this position and it is too much trouble for you to prop the screen up with a finger or two, then perhaps you should look at a different phone. One professional reviewer also suggests doing this.
There are things in the design that I would have liked to be a little different, all things considered, I am quite happy with the keyboard.
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- AnonD-252
- Sna
- 19 Feb 2011
The Desire-Z keyboard hinge thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830697
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- AnonD-252
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- 19 Feb 2011
AnonD-123, 18 Feb 2011Why don't you just go to the SE Xperia Pro and ask people t... moreI do both, I look att positive and negative on both, but Z can be bought today while pro is not on the market yet. I also think that bad things on any phone needs to be clear to all potential buyers, and I really like Z but I read to many reviews by professional reviewers who all have problems with the z-hinge, so all buyers should know that the z-hinge is a real problem before they decide to buy the phone. The qwerty is the reason to buy Z but the z-hinge make users avoid using the qwerty so they have wasted money on a qwerty that they end up not using because of the z-hinge. The design is bad because the qwerty should be locked firmly in the position that the user wants it to be, open or closed, and simply gravity or vibrations when texting should not be able to close or open the qwerty if the user does not want to open or close it, and if the user want to text in bed holding the phone upsidedown the user should be able to do so, and if the qwerty was well designed then it would be locked firmly in open position so that not simple gravity can open it.
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- AnonD-123
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- 18 Feb 2011
Anonymous, 18 Feb 2011the e7 hinge is discusting it makes me feel sick thinking a... moreThat's why the E7 hinge is not called a Z hinge.
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- 18 Feb 2011
AnonD-252, 18 Feb 2011I think not all Z have loose hinge so you may be one of tho... moreWhy don't you just go to the SE Xperia Pro and ask people to provide you with positive points to convince you to get that phone? I think you'll feel much happier if you got a phone because of its good points rather than get it because the other phone has more bad points.
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- Nerd
- mSs
- 18 Feb 2011
yes yes this phone is amazing nerd love it
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- AnonD-252
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- 18 Feb 2011
AnonD-123, 18 Feb 2011I use it while lying on the couch with my back against the ... moreI think not all Z have loose hinge so you may be one of those who have no problems with the hinge. I am trying to find all negatives on Z so that I can convince myself to wait for SE Pro. I do not like the UI on SE but the hardware is great, If only Z had not choosen this Z-hinge...
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- Anonymous
- mX1
- 18 Feb 2011
when i got the h/s i charged it over night it has still got 90% battery after 30 hours
ive used the h/s upside down and the screen didnt fall down
aparently aswell since ive had the phone im now even better lookign that before :)