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Anonymous
EKh
07 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018You have to face and accept that truth about sealed batteri... moreI have several friends still using iPhone 6, 6s and one even using a 5s all with the original battery still. While they admit battery life has gone down they can see manage a day of normal use. Yes a heavy usage day they might have to plug in but these phones are 3, 4 and almost 5 years old now.

So much for your 2 years current phones are garbage theory.

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Rimac
0vc
07 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018At least you admitted your wrong thinking that you think ne... moreUnfortunately this trend would continue Inexorably basically due to two reasons : democratic massive production / consumption and specific economic policies. Better healing in health and buy a second unit.

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Anonymous
mY2
07 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 04 Jun 2018When it comes to technology 99% of the time newer does = be... moreAnd the bootloop issue was the biggest problem for LG's sales, because a lot of LG users said that "I will never buy an LG phone again" when they saw how LG handled (ignored) the issue. And a lot of G4 and V10 bootloops started happening in 2016, 1 year after their release, right at the time of the next LG flagships, the G5 and V20. Bootloops caused people to avoid LG like the plague.

The G5's design was a radical change compared to G4, and it was a bad change, and people didn't like it. It also was ugly. It deterred people even more.
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Anonymous
mY2
07 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 04 Jun 2018When it comes to technology 99% of the time newer does = be... moreAt least you admitted your wrong thinking that you think newer = better, because that's not always the case, even when it comes to technology. The "newer = better" seems just like a really convenient argument for a typical ignorant consumer.

The V20 is a clear example of what a true smartphone is.

As I said years ago, LG have misunderstood the failure/low sales. The reason why G5 and V20 were unpopular is that LG already had bad reputation for many things: bootloops (G4, V10), screen retention (all their phones since G4), G5's bad alignment between the body and the bottom module, G5 had less features than V10, V20's fragile camera glass, G5 and V20 have worse design than G4 and V10, G3 was overheating, throttling and had poor battery life because LG used QHD screen resolution with Snapdragon 801, ... These are the reasons why LG phones are unpopular. And instead of fixing these problems and going back to the G4 and V10-like body design, LG started copying Apple and Samsung with fashionphone design: shiny, glass design, 18:9 screen, notch, curved screen edges and corners, and non-removable battery.

But it doesn't change the fact that LG V20 has the least of the problems among LG phones, and overall it's the best.

Your second paragraph proves how primitive you are. It's nothing to do with what was my previous phone. I said the objective facts that V20 is the best overall, and proved it with valid points that you couldn't disprove. This is where your comment fails the most.

Unlike you, I chose phones with rational thinking, so I always bought the phones that were the best in the world in their time, even back in the Nokia's days. It's used to be the case in the past that "phones keep getting better", but even then there were execptions. For example Nokia N96 and N97 were worse than N95 8GB and N82. But today the newer phones are all worse than LG V20, therefore probably I will never buy a new phone if this trend continues. Why would I buy a worse phone?

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Anonymous
4xi
07 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 05 Jun 2018Again, let me enumerate the features that truly make the V2... moreAre you applying for a salesman position? Most of these features aren't unique to the v20 at the time of its release. I'd say the removable battery, the DAC, and maybe the second screen on top instead of at the edge are features unique to the phone at the time, but definitely not the rest.

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Anonymous
IW@
07 Jun 2018

For the record, I don't fail to recognize the V20's shortcomings as you claim to say. Rather, it is you who fail to acknowledge the fourteen (14) features I stated that the V20 has, that 100% of all other flagships can't claim to have, even just half of all those listed. Every user will have use for many of those features although not all are interested or are using ALL of the 14 features. You keep on ignoring those 14 features as 'gimmicks' and would rather focus on criticizing the V20 ad infinitum for what it doesn't have or what it doesn't perform as well as other flagships (but in no way significant compared to what you get in exchange for the shortcomings). That's called trolling.

I've mentioned what I don't like about the V20 many times in previous posts (poor theming options, small screen size, almost non existent software updates, etc.) but I'd rather not dwell on them because they are insignificant compared to what you get with the V20 (all those 14 features) and compared to what disposable overpriced current flagship phones have to offer.

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Anonymous
IW@
07 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 06 Jun 2018So tired of you referring to today's flagship as "disposabl... moreYou have to face and accept that truth about sealed batteries. As I mentioned in previous posts, lithium ion batteries wear out. Smaller capacities wear out faster due to higher incidences of deep discharge levels (less than 15% battery left on a day-to-day basis). You better start with something big (4000mAh) if you want the phone still making it through the day on a single charge after a year of battery wear and tear. Otherwise, prepare to always bring a huge powerbank or be tethered to your wireless charger until such time you replace the phone. In theory, you can just have the battery replaced fast and easily at a cheap price. In practice, you wait forever to source an outdated OEM battery that costs half the current price of the phone that it would be more feasible to just buy a new phone. In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Again, if you replace phones every year or two, then sealed batteries don't matter at all. Otherwise, nobody should buy a sealed battery phone that has less than 4000mAh if one wants the phone to last more than 2 years without being tethered to a powerbank, or the wall charger/wireless charger.

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Anonymous
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07 Jun 2018

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Anonymous
EKh
06 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 06 Jun 2018The things I mentioned below that make the V20 superior to ... moreSo tired of you referring to today's flagship as "disposable" because that's not true and that's not how it works. Who actually just throws a phone away unless it's broken to bits and is completely unrepairable?

You make it sound like on day 731 a phone with a sealed battery will just stop working. Phones with sealed batteries can be replaced, Apple's doing it for $29 which is a great deal instead of buying a new iPhone for $700+. For the record my sealed battery phone will be over 2 years old by the end of this year and the battery life is still going strong I usually still have 30-40% by the end of the day. The only advantage to a removable battery is that you can remove it, it does not actually give you better battery life.

Your posts are like propaganda: you paint the v20 as being perfect while painting everything else to be inferior. You even paint wireless charging and waterproofing as useless gimmicks but if the v20 had these features then you'd be saying these are awesome usefull features. The v20 not perfect, but great value for the money, but has it's shortcomings like all phones do. The fact that you fail to recognize any of the v20s shortcomings just shows how biased and fanboy you are. You are no different than a Apple sheep. If this phone was as good as you keep saying it is it would have sold better back in 2016 and you'd think they'd be sold out now but they're not.

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AnonD-327936
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06 Jun 2018

Audioguy, 06 Jun 2018I rate the V20 as 10 out of 10. Most feature sets of phones... moreThe v20 gets a 8 out of 10 from me. I love the phone but LG's real lack of care and effort in providing security updates and Android updates hurts it a little.

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Rimac
0vc
06 Jun 2018

Shahzaib, 06 Jun 2018Dear, Which unit u have owned? Which carrier?H990N, both units.
Vodafone.

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Audioguy
keL
06 Jun 2018

I rate the V20 as 10 out of 10. Most feature sets of phones are very similar and I've gone through a lot. Two standout features the DAC and the 2nd screen.

The DAC puts out incredible sounding music to the point that I completely rebuilt my car audio. It is simply miles ahead of other phones and unlike the V20 I have a256gb card in it and play hirez music almost exclusively.

The 2nd screen is very very convenient and something other phones should use.

Battery life is adequate for me and all other features are good.

The only thing is missed from the Samsung was wireless charging but that was easily fixed.

I will likely have this phone for a long time.

I ended up buying three

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Shahzaib
6PU
06 Jun 2018

Rimac , 06 Jun 2018The bootloop issue was affecting several batch of G4. The V... moreDear,
Which unit u have owned? Which carrier?

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Shahzaib
6PU
06 Jun 2018

Note 3 user, 06 Jun 2018May i know this lg v20 got bootloop issue? Or motherboard i... moreLg v10 do have a bootloop issue buying v20 is safe as im using it its H918 no problem till now love this phone

One problem that im facing is, when i charge this phone with genuine lg 1.8 amp fast charger the phone charges in 40 minutes from 0 to 100 and the end in an hour, but when i use 1amp charger of samsung the phone takes 3 hours to charge and lasts for a day (23 hrs).

Is it a battery problem or lg charger's

Forgot to mention:
Sometime the phone losses 2% battery instead of 1% at a time

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Rimac
0vc
06 Jun 2018

Note 3 user, 06 Jun 2018May i know this lg v20 got bootloop issue? Or motherboard i... moreThe bootloop issue was affecting several batch of G4. The V20 are running totally without this issue. Personally I tell you that I own two units and since more than one year everything runs perfectly.

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Anonymous
IW@
06 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 06 Jun 2018Again like I said this phone is an example of LG throwing e... moreThe things I mentioned below that make the V20 superior to other crippled flagship phones are not gimmicks. FM radio and IR blaster are not gimmicks. Just because you don't use those two of the fourteen features I mentioned doesn't make the entire feature set a gimmick. If there's any gimmick, then its those fragile curved 18:9 screens that are unwanted touch magnets and fracture magnets, the wireless charging which is a poor substitute for a removable or at least a bigger 4000mAh battery, and waterproofing that is effective only for a few months unless the seals that become brittle and water permeable are a replaced at least annually, waterproofing that no phone manufacturer warranty covers if you happen to damage the phone. Naive buyers prioritize them thinking these worthless features add long term value or make the phone last long or survive accidents better, but no, they realize broken curved screens and horrible battery drain after a year of use actually happen a lot more often.

Again, as I said in an earlier post:
If you only use your smartphone for call and text and lots of photo sharing on Facebook, then you have absolutely no need for the V20's multitude of features and manual controls above and as such, any disposable flagship phone with sealed battery, 18:9 curved amoled screen or amoled screen with notch will do. Heck, even cheap China made phones will do. You won't notice the low image quality in Facebook anyway since 5.5-6.5" NarrowView 18:9 screens are too small to show any glaring photo quality difference anyway as most phones, even entry level ones now take acceptable to good quality photos.

For the rest who truly are tired of annual upgrades and disposable flagship phones that have nothing new to offer other than a new processor, superfluous RAM, or a new camera that isn't significantly better, then the V20 is for you now more than ever.

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Note 3 user
tZ0
06 Jun 2018

May i know this lg v20 got bootloop issue? Or motherboard issue like previous lg brand?
Thinking to change my old galaxy note 3 to this lg v20 or v10

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Anonymous
4Ax
06 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 05 Jun 2018Again, let me enumerate the features that truly make the V2... moreAgain like I said this phone is an example of LG throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. This phone proves there is more than just cramming as many features into a phone for it to be successful.

The screen is average at best, but dimmer than the G4's. The battery life is below average and the ability to swap for a fresh battery that will extend the bad battery life is unacceptable to most consumers. No waterproofing, most phone manufacturers do drop testing on their designs so whatever most phones can take a drop, please note your v20 warranty doesn't cover damage caused by drops same as phones with said waterproofing aren't covered by warranty caused by water.

It's got big bezels and is generally a not good looking phone so I'm guessing next to no women bought this phone despite it being available in pink.

Everything else you wrote is just gimmicks and stuff. I'll take wireless charging over fm radio AND ir blaster because I actually use wireless charging where as I never use the radio or blaster.

Good luck with your purchase validation endeavor! Nobody should buy this phone in 2018, even LG has forgotten about it as this phone didn't meet their sales expectations and even the Note 7 battery fiasco couldn't push people to the v20. Incredible how on paper this phone looks like winner but in real life it's a disappointment.

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Rimac
0vc
05 Jun 2018

Many people cannot sing the excellence of the ephemeral in their respective forums, don't hesitate to denigrate the sin of LG.

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Anonymous
IW@
05 Jun 2018

Again, let me enumerate the features that truly make the V20 unique:

1. The V20 has a built-in IR blaster to control all your appliances including those of your noisy neighbors. Volume of their sound system too high? Turn it down or turn it off with your V20 secretly through their window. It will scare the hell out of them so they will stop being noisy. Want to input your song number in a karaoke player? You can do it with your V20! Aircon? TV? Washing Machine? Car stereo? Teach your V20. It has a learn mode! Just REALLY spend time learning how to use it and customizing it and you'll wonder how you ever survived using a phone without one.

2. The V20 has dedicated sd card slot, not that stupid hybrid slot where you are forced to choose between dual SIM or one SIM + SD card only. With the V20, you can use the 2 SIM slots AND still add your SD card. What's more, the V20 supports up to 2TB micro sd cards.

3. The V20 is probably the ONLY recent flagship with analog FM radio. All the rest have removed it. When theres a calamity, you'll realize its utmost value when nothing other than your FM radio is working. When you just have to listen to your favorite DJ on those long trips without data available, you are going to realize how much you miss not having an FM radio with you, anytime, anywhere, without wasting data and draining your battery in the process.

4. The V20 has drop resistance which ensures your phone will handle drops. More important than waterproofing really. I have dropped my phone a lot more times than wetting it with liquid and damaging it in the process.

5. The V20 has slimport (hdmi out/4K video out) capability. Wireless screen share of movies is nice but results to downgrade in video quality due to WiDi bandwidth limitations. Not so with slimport. Also, the V20 is licensed to play Google Play movies in HD. You may not be aware of it or notice it but on a Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, Vivo, Oneplus, Lenovo, and other lesser known phones, HD playback on the phone of Google play movies is not allowed even if the phone is capable. It's a DRM (digital rights management) /studio thing. You can't change it.

6. The V20 has removable battery. Low batt? Replace with a fully charged spare while charging the depleted battery using an external charger accessory. That means no charging time needed, no wear and tear of usb port (loosening), and no frequent exposure of phone internals from heat generated due to charging. Forget slow wireless charging! Why accelerate battery wear with even more heat? External charging is best!

7. The V20 has high quality audio recording, high-quality 4K video capture with manual controls and superb photo capture with dual cameras and full manual controls.

8. The V20 has a high resolution QHD IPS display with SECOND SCREEN. Place app shortcuts, your name or even Christmas greetings or whatever you like (Halloween, Valentines, emojis, etc.) on the second screen.

9. The V20 has fast charging when you need it through USB-C. It's OTG compatible too! Usb thumb drives, external hard drives, even those in NTFS and exFAT formats (not limited to FAT32) can be read with the proper app.

10. The V20 has analog headphone jack when all the rest have removed it.

11. The V20 has LTE advanced (4G+) with support for wall penetrating 700mhz. It has ABILITY to FORCE network mode to 4G/4G+ only (LTE only) for those places where the auto mode (GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto) keeps on giving you the slower HSPA/HSPA+ (H/H+) signal. You can't do that on iPhones, Huaweis and Samsungs.

12. The V20's screen is a bright, 5.7" IPS panel in ideal 16:9 aspect ratio. 18:9 may be IN nowadays but consider this: 18:9 screen actually makes Facebook photo feeds smaller! 18:9 is too narrow. It makes keyboard typing cramped for the same screen diagonal! Reading in 18:9 curved phones look like reading text from a bottle of shampoo! Too much scroll! Amoled screens look nice, but if you didn't know already, they actually have much shorter life span than IPS panels. Amoleds tend to burn all their blue pixels and white pixels faster than the red and green ones, losing brightness faster with time and skewing the white balance towards reddish or amber tones.

13. The V20 has a powerful processor but costs only half to 1/3 the price of current flagships. Do you need the fastest processor for Facebook, Mobile Legends and Clash of Clans? No! Even the midrange snapdragon 625 will be do. Processors are like cars. The only benefit of the fastest cars are bragging rights and speeds in the race track. They're barely noticeable in everyday city driving.

14. The V20 supports hidden SSID in hotspot. Want to share your V20's data connection to your other devices via wifi hotspot without letting others know? Just set the SSID to hidden and nobody will ever ask you what your wifi/hotspot password is.

The V20 is a phone meant to last and built to last, and not some latest trendy model that gets dumped after every year when newer flashy designs and newer models are released.

Get the V20 if you truly want to slow down the nonsensical yearly upgrade cycle phone manufacturers push so hard on consumers with the main objective of making your phone obsolete faster than ever, but actually adding nothing meaningful other than a fresh new exterior design and a new color option.

Exterior designs and looks rapidly go out of style. Useful features like those enumerated above don't.

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