Qualcomm says Snapdragon 810 on track for H1 release
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- Charley
- Y7U
- 08 Dec 2014
So Qualcomm's PR representative say's "everything's fine."
Shocker.
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- Anonymous
- 2@t
- 08 Dec 2014
AnonD-318966, 08 Dec 2014Looks like I need to give everyone a lesson.
It's true t... moreYes 64bit compiled apps need more ram. (And they don't need double the memory as people think..)
'4gb is required to use 64bit to true potential' is highly inaccurate. For all you know if your app/memory management of the OS is bad anough even those 4gb will mean nothing.. So you cannot generalize the '4gb' benchmark (not even practically proven yet.. Other than the word of some qualcomm guy who seems to have things confused and got fired for it..) to the processor without taking into account the OS.
Saying that performance depends solely on you 4gb mark of ram makes no sense. The cortex a57 cores give almost 1.5 times the performance even to 32bit apps compared to the cortex a15..
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- I'm Lillipop
- HjY
- 08 Dec 2014
Right right it's about optimization
Look at my Xperia Z system took ram only 80mb :)
http://images.temppic.com/08-12-2014/images_vertis/1418050416_0.00358300.png
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- AnonD-318966
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- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Apple has 64 bit OS and only 1GB of RAM.
It is a matter o... more1) Sure, but it can't keep more than 3 apps in memory because of that. If iOS 8 would have had a 32bit version, it would have run better than the current version.
2) I have a 2GB PC with a 64bit CPU. Sure 64bit OSes are faster with just one program/app running. But they use significantly more ram, and when it gets scarce, trust me, you won't see a difference between 32bit and 64 bit anymore.
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- AnonD-307714
- mDv
- 08 Dec 2014
AnonD-318966, 08 Dec 2014Looks like I need to give everyone a lesson.
It's true t... moreSorry dude, while your brief lesson was ok its not really perfect. The RAM requirement for an app that is written in 64bit is only a little bit more (almost not worth talking about since were talking in most cases for a mobile device app around a meg more at most) than a 32bit, not to mention that a 32bit app will not start to use more because the environment is 64bit.
The 3gb vs 4gb = reduction in benefit from 64bit is rubbish. The iPhone proved that 64bit and 1gb ram still works faster and why is this..... double the registers in the CPU vs 32bit or in other words, 64bit brings double precision processing to the table. Granted, this benefit is largely based on optimization so its a case by case kind of approach to the system.
Its always better to have more RAM as it means the phone can do more at once, I think one of largest benefits you will see in the Android eco-system is the arrival of ART over Dalvic. when coupled with 64bit this will be a huge step forward in terms of performance. Android at its heart has been using Dalvic since the word go and its old and long outdated. That is what I am excited to get Android 5 on my Note 4. 64bit can wait for a couple of years until there are more apps built on the code.
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- GoToSchool
- j{1
- 08 Dec 2014
Sony please use 810 instead of releasing Z4 with 805. Stop playing catch up.
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- Anonymous
- 2@t
- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014icraps don't multitask as androids doYes.. That is a design choice they made and it seems to be working out pretty good for them.
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- Anonymous
- LE{
- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Apple has 64 bit OS and only 1GB of RAM. It is a matter o... moreicraps don't multitask as androids do
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- Anonymous
- 2@t
- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Er, you DO need 4GB RAM for 64-bit to be work. Otherwise it... moreStop believing Qualcomm created fake media hype to undermine the benefits of the A7 processor cos they weren't ready with theirs..
Qualcomm relaized what a technically idiotic statement they made that they had to fire the guy who made it..
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- Anonymous
- J29
- 08 Dec 2014
AnonD-318966, 08 Dec 2014Looks like I need to give everyone a lesson.
It's true t... moreApple has 64 bit OS and only 1GB of RAM.
It is a matter of optimization.
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- thecalmcritic
- tVs
- 08 Dec 2014
Good news...but we still need more competition. Intel or MIPS w/e. And the Chinese/Taiwanese players MediaTek, Allwinner or Rockchip should up their game as well and by that I mean better dev friendliness and international goodwill as well as raw firepower.
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- Anonymous
- 3I{
- 08 Dec 2014
Someplace said the 810 is not a custom design as the 805 but the same standard ARM design as the 7420. If true then perhaps also the 7420 has the issues. Or if its just the 810 the production facility that has the issues then perhaps the 7420 can fillin until the 810 is ready.
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- AnonD-318966
- 3I1
- 08 Dec 2014
AnonD-13148, 08 Dec 2014noob. 4GB is not a requirement for 64 bit. 64 bit is the r... moreLooks like I need to give everyone a lesson.
It's true that you don't need 4GB ram to run 64bit apps in a 64bit OS.
BUT application written in 64bit use up more ram than their 32bit counterparts. As such, the speed advantage from using 64bit architecture can be nullified if you have less then 4GB of ram, because you would run out of ram faster and apps would close and reopen more often when multitasking.
As a conclusion, from a technical point of view, you don't need 4GB ram. But, from a practical point, you would need around 4GB of ram to see the real potential of 64bit.
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- AnonD-196068
- mxU
- 08 Dec 2014
AnonD-13148, 08 Dec 2014noob. 4GB is not a requirement for 64 bit. 64 bit is the r... moreTrue but with less than 4GB of RAM 64 bit is an overhead for no tnagible benefit. Hence why 64 bit implementations of Windows have a higher minimum memory requirement than the equivalent 32 bit versions.
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- AnasAJ
- U{E
- 08 Dec 2014
how should you can say friend 4GP RAM is must will u explain it????
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- AnonD-13148
- uF0
- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Er, you DO need 4GB RAM for 64-bit to be work. Otherwise it... morenoob. 4GB is not a requirement for 64 bit. 64 bit is the requirement to utilize 4GB. noob.
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- AnonD-13148
- uF0
- 08 Dec 2014
This means Xperia Z4 is going to stick with 805.
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- Anonymous
- ny8
- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Well Qualcomms '4gb or 64 bit is useless' lies are going to... moreEr, you DO need 4GB RAM for 64-bit to be work. Otherwise it's just a marketing gimmick. Look at the iCr.ap 5s/6/6+. 64-bit marketing, but only 1 GB RAM. Toy phones.
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- dushan
- iwp
- 08 Dec 2014
hope sony will release z4 with only snapdragon 810.
z4 while be like s4 .sony will have more sales.
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- Anonymous
- 2@t
- 08 Dec 2014
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2014Good news. OEMs needs to include 4GB RAM with this chip at ... moreWell Qualcomms '4gb or 64 bit is useless' lies are going to come back to bite them..
Anyone who knows anything about processors know that it is NOT 'you need 4gb ram for 64bit to work' but 'you need 64bit for 4gb ram to work'..