Sony Ericsson loses another 167M euro, puts all hopes on X10
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- deejay
- 9ym
- 01 Feb 2010
SE is not Nokia or Samsung. I think SE has their own strategy how they can keep customers buying their handsets. From all the phones from the different manufacturers I've tested/used I can say that SE has the most user friendly user interface of them all. Their handsets are simple and easy to use. That's why I'm a SE fan. I think that they will profit a lot more from their new line of handsets this year.
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- Gamma
- u1E
- 28 Jan 2010
Mobil1, 28 Jan 2010In response to Gamma Sharma:
you state that SE:
Remem... moreI stand corrected. But my point is that, SE did a lot of R&D in the past and offered new technologies at lesser price than the competition. But it is the opposite not. Nothing new, all cheap at a steeper price products.
Earlier Walkman like W800, W700, W610 had good camera (esp. W610 with similar hardware to K550), but the management decided that the Walkman and the CyberShot Series were "competing" with each other in the market. So, poof... they decided to cut off AF Flash form Walkman series and Walkman player from CyberShot series.
Later came the gimmick Xperia (read as: Xpensivia) of Walkman + CyberShot combination with a price with which a new desktop could be assembled (literally!).
The truth is that the Management of SE didn't plunged the Axe onto there toes, but kicked the Axe front on themselves. They kept on disappointing the loyal SE followers with removed essential features, hefty price tags, buggy software rides and non-existing after sales support and value.
The original reasons for being an SE fan died out slow and steadily. The competition was not responsible for it. It was the fault in the Management of SE and the fact that they underestimated the intelligence of the consumers and the loyal SE fans.
I have a soft conner for SE in my heart but will never buy or recommend it to anyone, with the fear of the Buggy Softwares and after sales. In fact SE phones are not desirable anymore. There is always a major fault in the feature set with all the models eg- even the X10 don't support multitouch and pinch zooming or the buggy-but-advance android v2.5.
P.S. : By the way, 16 Million Color screen don't have any advantage over 262k color at the screen size of 2.2".
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- Mobil1
- IAu
- 28 Jan 2010
In response to Gamma Sharma:
you state that SE:
Remember SE totally invented / popularized:
a) 2MP Camera (K750).
b) Autofocus (K750).
c) LED Flash (K750).
d) Xenon Flash (K790).
e) Touch Screen (P800).
f) Accelerometer a.k.a motion sensor (w910).
g) Sept meter (w580).
h) Music oriented phone (w800).
i) Camera oriented phone (k750).
j) GPS
k) 3.2MP Camera (K790 and no its not N93).
l) 5MP (K850).
j) 8MP (C910 correct me.).
k) 12MP (Satio, Pixion just happen to be released as a cheaper "me-too" version)
l) Stylus (P800).
m) The "Grid View" menu system (no kidding with tab-view of T100).
n) 262k colour menu (k750).
o) AM Radio.
p) Ear Plugs with 3.5" socket.
SE had no innovation in these things that you say SE so called "popularized"
They omitted AF & Flash on just about every mid-range mobile in 2007-late 2008.
The Nokia N91 was released at the same time as the W800, & blew it away.
They STILL use 262K color displays, & lower.
3.5mm port??...LOL They stuck with fast-port until this year.
Stylus & Touch-Screen....Moto already did that.
Sharp made the first camera phone.
AM radio....gotta love that talk radio.
SE has done NOTHING, but build cheaply made plastic, & bug ridden mobiles, but still have the minerals to charge exorbitant amount of money for inferior products, & offer zero support to the consumer.
SE sux...it really is that simple.
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- mei_tatsujin
- wrb
- 28 Jan 2010
yeyank sharma, 27 Jan 2010what is this, report might be 50prcnt true, but worldwide, ... morese is 2nd chart after nokia in my country Indonesia.... well, it's a long ago on 2007-2008.... their market share is greatly decrease, samsung now take the 2nd place, and the 3rd place? those chinese crap phone...
2010 is the new era of smartphone, I hope that BB loser is dissapear immediately on 2010 from my country because it has makes peoples in my country stupid by technology...
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- Anonymous
- Er2
- 28 Jan 2010
yeyank sharma, 27 Jan 2010what is this, report might be 50prcnt true, but worldwide, ... moreIf the ranking on the left column here in GSM arena is correct, Samsung should be 2nd and Moto is 3rd. Once I heard SE was 4th after LG and ahead for Moto....for 1Q only. Then Moto with the awesome Android phones striked back, and SE is like a sitting duck...
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- Gunther
- uti
- 27 Jan 2010
SE is delivering cheaper components for higher price. I am an SE fan but I am loosing hope on this. I bought 9 SE phones after Nokia nGage but I am planning to switch. :(
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- yeyank sharma
- vI1
- 27 Jan 2010
what is this, report might be 50prcnt true, but worldwide, sony ericsson has the 2nd largest market share!!! aafter nokia. This is some really wierd thingwhuch gsmarena is dong! i dont know i love sony ericsson!
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- dara
- 0vS
- 27 Jan 2010
I think that gsmarena is indiscrete and it's not ok towards SE to throw this kind of subjective opinions in front of billion people.
They should've kept it to them selves and let the people draw their own conclusions from the data and official report.
This kind of thing's ain't helping SE for sure.
The thing is actually that SE IS ON THE GOOD TRACK.
Their officials are very firm on that.
They sold more phones despite of reduction in portfolio and low range offering. And average unit price is going up.
If the Satio hadn't got that curse and bad publicity with the software problems, it would be a major succes.
Plus if you count out the restructuring costs, they would be close to positive zero in the last quarter.
And we are yet to se even the first mid range touchscreen phones from them. (which are a major point for other manufacturers).
Dont be too hard on SE.
If anyone, they have the potential to change the game.
Expect less models and selling figures in the future, but better profit and efficient business.
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- anonymous
- ut3
- 26 Jan 2010
Anonymous, 26 Jan 2010I understand many here maybe from India, though sorry to sa... morewe are talking about rupees man
is that ok?
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- John
- Mf5
- 26 Jan 2010
They offer higher price for the handset where the other company is doing well like LG.
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- Priyankaa
- u1E
- 26 Jan 2010
Gamma Sharma, 26 Jan 2010Thanks Gigabite. Sorry for quoting the prices in Indian Rup... moreIn developing countries like ours, we dont usually get the offer from network providers of expensive mobiles on 2-3 years contract like O2 or Vodafone. So, the major selling model are as follows:
1) Lower class workers = Model under 42$ ( Rs.20000/-) = Status symbol. Nothing else. = 1 in 10 people.
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- Gamma Sharma
- u1E
- 26 Jan 2010
Gigabite!, 26 Jan 20104k is 4000,10k is 10,000 and it's probably $dollars or euros.Thanks Gigabite. Sorry for quoting the prices in Indian Rupees (Rs.).
Actually 1$ = Rs.46.57/- (poor value I know).
Therefore 4k = Rs.4000/- = $85.88/-.
In developing countries like ours, we dont usually get the offer from network providers of expensive mobiles on 2-3 years contract like O2 or Vodafone. So, the major selling model are as follows:
1) Lower class workers = Model under 42$ ( Rs.20000/-) = Status symbol. Nothing else. = 1 in 10 people.
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- Anonymous
- u4g
- 26 Jan 2010
se shud fight (ngage) with psx support atleast!!
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- Gigabite!
- 9LA
- 26 Jan 2010
Anonymous, 26 Jan 2010I understand many here maybe from India, though sorry to sa... more4k is 4000,10k is 10,000 and it's probably $dollars or euros.
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- Anonymous
- Sfg
- 26 Jan 2010
They need to sack their design team and design a phone that doesn't look like a piece of lego. Even their new vivaz touchcreen phone has a rubbish resistive touch screen like the satio, which is the ugliest touchscreen phone on the market. If they want to compete they should be starting from the ground up and giving customers what they want.
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- Setsuna F
- PBR
- 26 Jan 2010
Well, i just get my Yari.
Its a quite nice phone with no problems.
Go SE!! I love your phones.
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- Zamroni
- xtb
- 26 Jan 2010
I don't think SE relying on X10, Satio or X2 is correct ones. Those phones cost more than $500. Not many people buys 500+ USD phones. If they buy, mostly they uses operator subsidy which may have lower price agreement with SE.
SE should makes good phones for under 400 USD range, not tamagochi-like stuffs. Nokia and Samsung sell a lot in that range.
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- Chandra
- vfj
- 26 Jan 2010
Even SE has a bad reputation for their aftersales service, se still my favourite, after Siemens mobile finally loose frm the competition, I choose SE became my love, so for sonyericsson keep the faith and keep forward dude!! Salam dari Jakarta;-)
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- Anonymous
- qbk
- 26 Jan 2010
skinny, 25 Jan 2010yea, me too like se phones a lott. when do the dam phone x1... morex10 isnt as delayed as x1... that phone we had to wait for.. still bought it the day it came out though... x10 wasn't announced a year i advance.. only a few months and if it comes of February/march then why would people be complaining? ya if it takes till November then its a problem. I was thinking of getting HTC HD2 BUT then they made an upgraded version for t-mobile. and No one else can use it.. so because i cant have the upgraded one I wont give my money to HTC. and i think all the apple fans are retarded.. just had to throw that in there... apple fans don't even reply i wont read it. but you have no taste.
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- Anonymous
- Er2
- 26 Jan 2010
Anonymous, 26 Jan 2010Your posts are so long, I doubt anybody wants to read them.... moreI understand many here maybe from India, though sorry to say if you keep mentioning "they should release phones at 4k or 10k or whatever", most of us would have little to no idea how much would that be. Are you talking about Rp? Yen?
Sorry for being bias, though if you standardize the price you're talking about in USD, I believe 99% of us (including the Europeans) can figure out the conversion on their own.
Rather, most Americans probably don't know how to convert Euro back to USD. But if you take USD from most advance countries in Europe, or not so advance places in Africa / Asia, most people would still take it over Euros.