Galaxy S7 will have Always On Display, trademark filing implies
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- 16 Feb 2016
T, 12 Feb 2016When light passes through a window, is the window then lit?... moreYou don't grasp the English language. Yes, light passing through a window DOES mean the window is lit, not by its own light source but by the light shining through. I suppose the sun doesn't light up the Earth either because our planet (well, mine. Not sure about yours..) doesn't have is own light source..
Oh, by the way, you seem to think of LED and OLED as being entirely different things that can't be compared? An OLED display is simply a matric of tiny LED's, rather than a liquid crystal display being illuminated by fewer larger LED's as a back light that makes an LCD screen, so of course you can compare them... The clue IS in the name, Organic Light EMITTING Diode.
Ignorant AND pedantic, you must be a joy at parties.
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- 12 Feb 2016
Spudly Mcgudly, 12 Feb 2016Pedantry.. "Pixels are not LIT on an LCD". The LCD matrix p... moreWhen light passes through a window, is the window then lit? No of course not.
The E in OLED stands for Emissive. The OLED pixels lit up. The LCD pixels do not. They simply let the background light from the LED panel shine through (or block it). Like a window.
Unless you believe windows to be a light emitting source - you have once again proven that you do not fully grasp this technology.
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- 12 Feb 2016
Spudly Mcgudly, 12 Feb 2016I understand perfectly well how they work thanks, but may I... moreYou started talking down with this sentence: "In fact, I'm not even convinced a lot of you know what screen burn in is?"
And another gem:"it's scaremongering by people that are to ignorant to know how the tech works."
You are quite the hypocrite.
Yes you are saying "it should never be an issue on a modern OLED panel" which is essential the same thing. It does not exists on modern screens (the word "never" is used here). Well it is and it's a fact both in pratical use and in the theory behind OLED.
Yes it is more difficult for the human eye to detect that a screen is getting a bit dimmer than it is to detect burn-in. So the first is preferable.
Oh and you avoiding the fact the you were comparing the deterioration on OLEDs with LED on LCDs which makes no sense when it comes to burn-in. You seem to have forgotten this...
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- 12 Feb 2016
They cannot trademark something their competing companys are using as marketing for years. Yotaphone is using the "always on display" trademark since 2012...
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- 12 Feb 2016
T, 10 Feb 2016You do not understand how this works do you? A normal LCD s... morePedantry.. "Pixels are not LIT on an LCD". The LCD matrix panel is illuminated by LED's is it not? Therefore the pixels are in fact lit. I did not suggest they are their own light source as is the case with OLED.
As for wasting people's time.. no one's except my own (and of course yours, by your own doing). But you're right. You cant argue with someone that values no one else's opinion other than their own, as confirmed by your bashing of other people's tastes. So, enough.
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- 12 Feb 2016
T, 10 Feb 2016You do not understand how this works do you? A normal LCD s... moreI understand perfectly well how they work thanks, but may I suggest that you swat up on it? Have you also considered that by having the LED's run all the time on an LCD severely shortens their lifespan compared to an OLED? But your saying it's alright because the whole screen gets dimmer and it's uniform? You also think because you post links it makes your argument sound any less dumb? Finally, why do you think you have the right to talk down to people like you have some half baked superiority complex? You are sadly mistaken.
For the record I never actually said screen burn in doesn't exist, I just pointed out that in a modern OLED the panels are so much more reliable that it shouldn't ever be an issue unless it's down to defective manufacture. Read it.. It's right there.
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Spudly Mcgudly, 10 Feb 2016And what do you think lights up the screen on a standard LC... moreYou do not understand how this works do you? A normal LCD screen with LED will always have every LED on at the same time. Yes they will deteriorate but unless the phone has local dimming (it doesn't!) it will be uniform for the ENTIRE display. Meaning NO burn-in. Pixels are not LIT in a LCD - the are lit on OLED. Meaning that the deterioration will be local - AKA burn-in.
Read about it instead of wasting our time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in#Plasma.2C_LCD_and_OLED_displays
And while you are question other facts: Yes the moon-landings DID happen. Yes humans contribute to global warming. Yes Han shot first etc.
Most people are does not know ANYTHING about proper picture quality. Look at all the default settings on every TV today. Most people leave them on (they are default for a reason) because most consumers cannot recognize how it should look. So yes I question most peoples sight when it comes to this. Like I also question their taste in movies considering how popular Michael Bay movies are. The masses are the lowest common denominator.
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- 10 Feb 2016
T, 10 Feb 2016Off course they are. The fact that they have a limited life... moreAnd what do you think lights up the screen on a standard LCD display? Pixie dust? I'm not saying OLED's don't deteriorate over time - of course they do slightly, but no more than any other type of LED. Unless it's due to a defect screen burn in should never be an issue on a modern OLED panel, it's scaremongering by people that are to ignorant to know how the tech works. P.S. Most people can't see it because it's not there, or are you questioning their sight now too?
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Spudly Mcgudly, 10 Feb 2016I had.. No, still have a Note 3 and it shows no screen burn... moreOff course they are. The fact that they have a limited lifespan and lit up individually makes the difference. It is common sense. But some people cannot see burn-in. I have had people working in stores that could not see the burn in not matter how obvious it was in my eyes. Luckily Samsung replaced all the displays on my SGS2, SGS3, SGS4 and SGS5 even though the store clerks could not see it. I doubt they would do that if there where no burn in.
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- 10 Feb 2016
Anonymous, 09 Feb 2016Its not 2012 dudeThere will still be burn-in. The SGS4 had it, the SGS5 had it and SGS6 has it. So SGS7 will also have it. It cannot be avoided with OLED. The reason you haven't noticed it is because your display is not on enough but use any of these phones as a daily navigational device and the burn-in will appear with 6 months. And with a display that is always on....well....
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- 10 Feb 2016
no matter how many of you claims the patent of the ALWAYS ON DISPLAY is from LG or Samsung, NOKiA still was the first one to have that with the old school Symbian thang :D
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- 10 Feb 2016
Mariobario, 08 Feb 2016That is in fact burn in, or... each AMOLED-pixel has a limi... moreI had.. No, still have a Note 3 and it shows no screen burn in at all. In fact between myself and my wife we've owned most of the Samsung flagships and never once had this problem with them or any other OLED/Amoled device I've used. So unless you had a duff phone, which let's be honest, it's not restricted to Samsung, I'm calling BS on your comment.
In fact, I'm not even convinced a lot of you know what screen burn in is? It rarely affects the whole screen.. Plasma TV's used to suffer from it where a clock or channel number would display the same info for long periods of time. OLED is completely different to plasma though, and as far as burn-in is concerned, the LED's that make up the matrix are no more susceptible to it than the back light on an LCD. Fact.
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- 10 Feb 2016
.alpha, 08 Feb 2016How do you trademark something that's a competitor's featur... moreGood question.. Apple, just how DO you do it?
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- 09 Feb 2016
Anonymous, 09 Feb 2016Since the Samsung flagships have AMOLED screens, they burn in.Its not 2012 dude
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- 09 Feb 2016
Since the Samsung flagships have AMOLED screens, they burn in.
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- 09 Feb 2016
Currenly i'm still using Nokia Symbian C6 01 phone,
Most of function only will see on high end phone,
- voice command - android need internet connection?
- notification light
- charging light
* light mean LED
- multi task, (on current low end phone only few apps can running at same time)
- detail call log
- 2 type message view
- built in PDF, office viewer, ZIP manager
- SMS reader
- and other i cannot remember
- sadly no built in screenshoot
Now android some of that need install apps saperately
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- 09 Feb 2016
Great attention to so-called brand patents.Enter the water ... ..:))))))
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- 09 Feb 2016
It's just a name patent isn't it?
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- 09 Feb 2016
AnonD-85193, 09 Feb 2016Well if Samsung don't patent it then Apple will, except App... moreApple have already patent it.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/20/apple_developing_always_on_iphone_status_indicators.html
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- 09 Feb 2016
i dont understand why samsung is very much tempted to copy other phones styles and designs.